[Closed] Stooge Cycles - who's interested? (slack 29er content)

Trying to decide on a rear tyre to fit

It'll be on for a while, so fingers crossed dry and fast

Any suggestions

On my original build I used a 2.4 X-King on the front and a 2.2 out back, worked well and the bike lived up to my expections.

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Then I fitted a Dually and Chronicle up front. It does change the ride and actually lets you do some pretty stupid things. My biggest issue is bars, the Stooge has turned me into a compulsive bar swapper, there's nothing wrong with any I've fitted but I'm always convinced the next pair will be that little bit better. At the moment I've got flipped On-One OG bars on there ... don't worry, I've apologised to Andy for it already. 😀

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The wider front rim made a appreciable difference for me too (with Chronicle)

Any other suggestions for a rear?

Are any other owners having trouble with a slipping seatpost? Mine won't stay put with a QR so I've had to go with an Allen bolt collar.

It's definitely my favourite bike, and a keeper (until the Ti one comes along obviously)

No issue here. What post is it?

I've used a Thompson lay back and currently a Kent E ti - both were fine

Mine slipped a bit with my Gravity Dropper and a cheap oem clamp but today I used a Surly constrictor clamp and no issues so far

No seatpost problems here with a Twelfty and an RSP dropper.

Stooge rides best with a 51mm offset 100-120mm suspension fork. Its fab 29+ but metal with boing. See the stooge facebook or one cog facebook for pics.

Mine slips with a Thompson and a qr done up very tight, might switch to carbon paste. I blame the Thompson post!

titanium Stooge frames should be landing next week, photos to follow

^ 😀

Popcorn

BTW Bonesetter, not normally a supporter of the big S, but the Specialized Slaughter is a great rear tyre.

Thanks Mr S 😉

I'll give that a look

Excited! Have you got a price and spec on the frame?

they're sitting in customs at the moment, as soon as i know how much they're going to charge i'll be able to work out a price. And as soon as i get them i'll be posting photos. But in a nutshell, 44mm headtube, bigger downtube, slightly bigger top tubes, more tyre clearance, should be a bit of a beast.

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If anyone is interested in a blue frameset, I'm looking to move mine on.

900!

Daffy. Sent you an email.

What 'ti forks' are recommended to keep the character of 'steel Stooge?'

well, got my stooge built up (thanks to sideways Tim)

went out for first ride this eve

just what I wanted, seems to roll very well, and quite comfy with genesis alt bars and high front end, my first bike with 11spd (xx1) and I quite like it so far. must have bought hope out of purple bits ! northpaw rims

heres a pic (and yes, I am a shortarse)
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What 'ti forks' are recommended to keep the character of 'steel Stooge?'

Now there's a question. To start with steel Stooge - getting something with same group/offset is tricky.

Great pic coz. great colours

Would you mind saying your's and the bike's size for the record

I have some folk who are interested on sizing

Cheers

bike size - they are all the same size

so im running a straight post and a 30mm stem to make it just right for me

Im about 5'6" 30 inch inseam,

Looks a sweet ride 🙂

Sunday bump as we are all waiting for pics of the titanium frame. Oh, and price too please Andy.

At 6'5" are these going to come up too small as i dont like long stems and huge amounts of seat post showing! Anyone my size got a pic they can post please?

Ooooops - pic fail.

Stooging on WRT
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Edit - sorted!

Clink ...that Purple Stooge looks the business.......the blue ..hmm not so much

I heard the purple colour was to compensate...

But of course a ti finish would be nice 😉

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tease

Presumably there is flexibility in the spec of this frame?

For example, size (larger/smaller riders), threaded BB, finish etc?

My god .........that lawn ... 😯

Not quite what I was expecting.

Is the finish grit blasted, etched, or is it paint?

It's lush 😀

I think I just did a bit of a sex wee.

I want one.

That is yumptious!

So anyone want to buy a kidney, one careful owner? Maybe my 1st born? I need one of these.

Oh no! (That's my wallet speaking).

Weight, price etc?

Will there be a matching titanium or steel fork? I presume it won't take suspension forks? 🙂

Set screws on a Ti EBB shell. Interesting choice...

Looks like a carbon fork from the photos I saw.

It will take a suspension fork 120mm 51mm offset kicks ass on a stooge.

*whimpers* 😕

okay, so here's the lowdown.

the frame is going to retail at £1400 for frame only. I have an oversized steel fork on the way that will work great and am also sourcing a carbon fork. The Enve fork will work perfectly with it. A 100 or 120 suspension fork will also work. I'm unsure about unbraced titanium forks, your thoughts would be appreciated on this. I wanted to avoid the traditional 5 piece welded fork, but it is something i'm looking into.

The rear end has a lot more clearance than the steel frame, this was designed for B+ but has resulted in the Vee 29+ tyre fitting fine, mounted on both a Rabbit hole and a Dually, with plenty of clearance to spare.

The frame can be specced with a regular threaded bottom bracket or an EBB. re the grubscrews, they work faultlessly on the steel frame with no issues, so i've used them here. Bear in mind they should only ever be tightened to 5nm, no more. Stick to this and there'll be no issues. A lot of people dislike them, but they're simple and reliable and a cinch to set up, plus the design of the Stooge would be kind of ruined if i put sliders on the rear end.

The finish in the photo is bead-blasted raw ti, with polished logo. it can be ordered the other way around with polished frame, bead blast logo.

I'm going to be taking orders on spec with a £400 deposit required, the frames will take about 2 months to arrive at your door. if you need a different size, let's talk.

if you're interested, then the best thing at the moment would be to e-mail me on andrewj.stevenson@hotmail.co.uk and we can start a conversation. i like to deal with people personally, its part of what makes running Stooge so much fun.

i think that's covered everything for now, do drop me a line if you have any questions.

Have you worked a price on the fork yet Andy, and what finish will it have?

Cheers

So Stooge is now a full 29+ bike (bit like Trek's Stache)

Not really. Stache geometry is pretty unique for a 29+ bike.

So Stooge is now a full 29+ bike (bit like Trek's Stache)

Not really, it'll not take a proper 29+ like a knard, chronicle or presumably a dirt wizard

I like this a lot :D!
Looks like I'll be selling my SS Stooge Mk1. Any takers?

if you need a different size, let's talk.

It's outta my price range, but i'm curious, is this a Pact thing?

I really like your frames and ethos, but not sold on the one size for all thing. I'd love to see a small frame (15.5") for 650b.

Looks fantastic.

That Ti one looks nice & if it means more access to second hand steel ones then I'm all for it

Have to say, I am shocked and surprised at the £1400 frame only price. I had thought people were ordering one offs for around £600 direct so a batch production should be cheaper for Stooge to buy, then their mark up and import taxes are going to lift it, but £1400?

I thought Pact were dear at £1000.

Have to say, I am shocked and surprised at the £1400 frame only price. I had thought people were ordering one offs for around £600 direct so a batch production should be cheaper for Stooge to buy, then their mark up and import taxes are going to lift it, but £1400?

I thought Pact were dear at £1000.

If you think "from" £1000 is "dear" for a full custom Ti frame designed and supported by us, then I'm doing something wrong.

Also, we (for I am a third of Pact) don't offer the twin top tube design that the Stooge has - as there's a hefty amount of tooling charge in that. Bravo Andy.

Have to say, I am shocked and surprised at the £1400 frame only price. I had thought people were ordering one offs for around £600 direct so a batch production should be cheaper for Stooge to buy, then their mark up and import taxes are going to lift it, but £1400?

I thought Pact were dear at £1000.

I think you need to reset your perception of what is expensive for a ti frame. It also has twin top-tubes, bent seat stays and an ebb - all add cost.

I almost went with a Vertigo Ti frame (before more frames like Kona's Raijin and Stooge were off the peg available) and each little addition was an another $300.

For example the ti material for a bridged BB/CS for extra short CS's was $400 plus a labour charge

You could also compare the price top another small outfit producing a titanium frame... but I think enough comparisons have been made already 🙂 Looks great but how is it riding?

If you think "from" £1000 is "dear" for a full custom Ti frame designed and supported by us, then I'm doing something wrong.

No.

I think you need to reset your perception of what is expensive for a ti frame.

Yes.

without wanting to get dragged into the yays and nays about the price, i will say i'd love to able to buy one for £600, in fact, i'd love to able to buy one for £900, and yes, tooling costs were very expensive, as was carriage and import duty. I'd love to be able to sell it for less but i'd need to register Stooge as a charity that supports men on bikes (nice idea).

I'm not opening the books until i have a viable fork option sorted. Those options at the moment are a nice fat raw steel unit that complements the bike perfectly, a ti one (but i'm not so sure about unbraced ti forks on a bike that will be ridden hard), and a Stooge geo carbon one. The steel option will add zero to the price, the carbon will add about 200. the frames are custom built to order, i'm not going to be buying quantites in. So far there are three frames. Maybe no-one else will come forward to buy one, that's fine.

it's a cool little project all the same.

Looks like I'll be selling my SS Stooge Mk1. Any takers?

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BTW Bonesetter, not normally a supporter of the big S, but the Specialized Slaughter is a great rear tyre.

Slaughter works well in the rear

Can't fault it on the bone dry woods trails last few rides, which are the only conditions it has seen so far

It's a heavier and sturdier tyre to most I have used in Stooge's rear, and the stoutness of the wall is a good thing - gives a sense of snug and resilience, which I think is the take away impression

Rolls well and hooks up on everything

The Enve fork will work perfectly with it

Is it a 44 mm headtube?

Ti is.

I spent the weekend throwing mine down Antur Stiniog Downhill Trails, was a blast I had both trail and DH bikes there if I fancied but rode the Stooge all weekend absolutely loved it!

Just put a rabbit hole rear on my brothers stooge, fitted a maxxis ikon 2.35 and there is probably 2mm either side

I see earlier in the thread someone had a 2.4 ardent on RH, do they size up small?

i believe the ikon is a big 2.35, even more so when on a rabbit hole. I think you'd certainly have the same problem with a 2.4 ardent. I'be been running a Specialized slaughter recently on a Dually with lots of space to spare, it's a great tyre. If you fancied an Ardent, stick to the 2.2, it'll still fill out very nicely on the Surly rim.

Thanks for the info

What size rotors are people running on their stooge's?

Avid bb7 with 180 front and rear

203/183 E4's

SLX 160/160

203/185

Dunno if the guys, Andy and ? that I met at Twentyfour12 this evening are on here or not. But on the off chance they'll see it, thankyou for entertaining my interest and for Andy letting me have a pootle on his Stooge around the car park.

Even though it was only a car park test, I get it. It felt fun and as agile as it could for a carpark test, well I could easily lift the front...need to try one off road now...or just order one...

Cheers
Justin

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This is mine, I loving it.

The big question now is when the new batch will arrive and be ready for delivery.