[Closed] Stooge Cycles - who's interested? (slack 29er content)

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Hmmm, maybe time to upgrade from my Love/Hate ready for SSUK..

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I've waited patiently for 4 WEEKS. WHAT'S THE NEWS ANDY 😈 !!

Gah. I spent an almost exactly Stooge-frame-sized fee on four new car tyres this morning. A new bike is off the list for a bit for me.

Although.....

Gah. I spent an almost exactly Stooge-frame-sized fee on four new car tyres this morning. A new bike is off the list for a bit for me.

Although.....

Maybe enter this years Welsh Ride Thing? ... some lucky person will be leaving with a Stooge F&F 😀

Yes Andrew, please tell us the news regarding the Stooge as I too am quite interested.

*Holds off on buying the current Stooge frame*

If anyone fancies a go on a stooge my limited edition ss version will be at battle on beach as a demo bike. Just give me a shout amd let me know in advance

i too will be a Battle on't Beach, see you there Tazz 🙂

So i've been busy, hence the fact i've not had much of a chance to get on here. Latest Stooge news - one word, Titanium.

won't say any more until i have photos.

Ooh Ti sounds nice ....

So if you could wait until I can afford one, that'd be cool. Not that I need (or can afford) a new bike!

😀

Looks like no BoB for me though as moving house...probably

I'll be there to suck Taz's wheel for a bit

Im on the black sheep this year, best get ya peggling legs on 😀

Latest Stooge news - one word, Titanium.

won't say any more until i have photos.

One word: interested. 😀

is there going to be a ti version of the Stooge 29er?

Awesome 8) ! Now to get the money together.
Does anyone want to buy a Stooge in Blue? 😆

I'd rather have a 4130 one than Ti - I haven't read all 24 pages of this thread but do they have enough clearance to run as 27.5+, because that's what I'd really like to do with one?

do they have enough clearance to run as 27.5+

Yup, there's a photo on facebook. I'll grab it at lunch.

Fancy buying mine 😉 ?

I now have gears on my stooge and loving it even more!!

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Looking forward to lots of cheap stooges for sale as people upgrade.

Titanium sounds very interesting! To what end though? Weight? Comfort? Or a bit of both?

To what end though? Weight? Comfort? Or a bit of both?

a handful of people asked and i obliged. yes it will be lighter, but can't see it being any more comfortable than the steel frame in any real sense. i guess the most honest answer is it's fun to design and create different stuff and see it come to life.

Steel will always be my first love and the main core of Stooge as things progress. it's cheap (compared to ti), strong and rides great. With that in mind i'm just finalising the second batch of steel Stooges, i'm getting scarily low on stock and due to being a genius of planning will probably sell out just in time for summer 🙁

Any changes in this up coming second batch?

What are the new colour options? When are all the details coming out?
I've got some cash, but itchy feet.

Grey.....is it still the new black .?

We need photoshop on that

frame remains the same, blue will be carrying over as it's the Stooge colour, plus 2 others TBC. Unfortunately they're about 5 months away yet. I've only been up and running for 10 months so its a case of take it easy and don't get ahead of myself, spend another year or so getting out n about and then start actioning what comes next. Be nice to have loads of money to make it all happen now, but alas... one man band and all of that 🙂

Do you have any Singlespeed only ones left in stock fella?

Andy have you looked at doing a Kickstarter project to help with funding the next one ?

Good idea cheeze (well, albeit an obvious one - and one which which would almost undoubtedly get supported)

Or why not invite 'sponsors'?

They are out there

Exclusive purple is exclusive ....;)

If there was one tweak Id make it would be 44mm headtube. It would allow a much wider range if carbon forks and with the right headset it would still allow the standard 1.125 steel fork

I vote for british racing green and wine red as limited edition colours.

Do you have any Singlespeed only ones left in stock fella?

afraid not, though the next ones will do away with the front cable routing, so nearasdammit the same.

Kickstarter could be an idea...

44mm headtube? The 'Stooge' frameset will keep the standard. I bought a fargo once with the 44 and the classic look of the bike had been destroyed, i think it would throw the front end out of proportion, plus i like the idea of someone finding one in a shed in 50 years time, taking it to the small bike shop on the corner and being able to get a headset for it. BUT there will be a 44mm frame somewhere down the line, a little beefier, ability to run a fork if you so wish, you'll see what i mean when the ti frames arrive. My idea behind the Stooge has always been simplicity - no special hubs or new standards that might last a year before the next one comes along, the ability to build it cheaply from spare parts if that's what you want to do.

green's ringing a bell 🙂

 

Oh man british racing green would be glorious. Not on the Ti one though, that should be left raw!

Would love a BRG Stooge to go with my purple one. I'm sure I could justify it somehow.

Do your frames come with two drop outs? one for ss and one for geared?

Getting rid of the front derailed routing is a good move. I'm a big rigid fan and, for me at least, it's all about simplicity. Might be seriously tempted.

Almost everything about the Stooge fits the bill, however there is one thing that is a bit of concern and that would be the set or grub screww ebb, seems like it could lead to problems down the road, Can anyone with the Stooge frame or a bike with the same ebb design shed a bit of light with their experience?

Mine hasn't missed a beat. I think it is the same design as the one Singular use and I haven't heard of problems there.

do the screws gauge the aluminum bottom bracket and leave permanent endentiions? also, how snug is the bottom bracket insert in the bottom bracket? does the interface have a tight tolerance?

Ebb is a very snug fit no noticeable play in mine, the grub screws have left marks though but all in all its been bang on not even a hint of a creak. Set up SS too btw

Do you have a Stooge? and Is it snug with the bolts loosened?

Do you have a Stooge? and Is it snug with the bolts loosened?

Why are you so worried? It's a recognised system. The ebb insert is easily rotated with bolts undone. Mine hasn't budged or creaked in months (over 6) of ss use on Quantocks, Mendips and local rides.

I've got a Singular Hummingbird with the same EBB system, I've always used it singlespeed and it's been faultless. Adjusting chain tension is probably a minute's work using 4mm and 6mm allen keys. The set screws leave shallow marks on the insert but it doesn't stop you making fine adjustments.
I take the insert out a couple of times a year and clean and grease the BB shell with copper grease.

Well, I was actually asking spectabilis, and these forums are for members to share info and I would like to get as much info as possible to make the best choice as it's my money. No need to get so defensive Clink

I was worried to, but after 6 months of riding no problems. I knew it was a proven technology (tandem frames) but it is normal as ebbs have the reputation of being troublesome (a lot of older Niner frames). I am not worried any more. It's probably the cleanest solution for tensioning the chain and you can use the ebb to lower the bb or shorten the chainstays when running gears.

calaverarider - Member
Do you have a Stooge? and Is it snug with the bolts loosened?

Yes I do, and yes when I said snug fit I meant as in a tight tolerance between insert and aperture....

calaverarider - Member
Well, I was actually asking spectabilis, and these forums are for members to share info and I would like to get as much info as possible to make the best choice as it's my money. No need to get so defensive Clink

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I think Clink was pointing out the obvious, to your obvious insecurity 🙂

The EBB works well. I prefer the grub bolts over the internal bolts. It gives a larger clamping diameter and it is easier to adjust. I've not had any issues with lots of abuse over the last 9 months.

I'm stripping and cleaning everything ready for summer soon so I'll check out what marks the bolts have left.

i chose this system because of it's foolproof simplicity. In the past i've had various types of ebb. all of which creaked terribly or were a bind to adjust. Worth mentioning that the BB shell is machined after welding to ensure a perfect fit. Also worth mentioning that the bolts only need to be tightened to 4nm, which isn't very tight at all. The bolts are also flat-headed to prevent the gouging that can be a problem with the pinpoint bolts some companies use. If you don't overtighten you won't have a problem. The frames come with plentiful amounts of coppergrease in the shell, so far no problems at all. Hope that helps.

Any decision on those new colours? Still hoping for that candy red... 🙂

Any more info and pics of titanium version please Andy?

i chose this system because of it's foolproof simplicity. In the past i've had various types of ebb. all of which creaked terribly or were a bind to adjust. Worth mentioning that the BB shell is machined after welding to ensure a perfect fit. Also worth mentioning that the bolts only need to be tightened to 4nm, which isn't very tight at all. The bolts are also flat-headed to prevent the gouging that can be a problem with the pinpoint bolts some companies use. If you don't overtighten you won't have a problem. The frames come with plentiful amounts of coppergrease in the shell, so far no problems at all. Hope that helps.
Thanks for chiming in, I've had various ebb's as well from a Bushnell expanding wedge to split shells, which have been trouble free in my limited time with them, are there any negatives associated with split shells that perhaps I'm not aware of?

 

no problems at all with split=shell, providing the tolerances are correct and you grease and don't overtighten the bolts. Having said that, i've not used one and i can see that an opening and closing clamp isn't ideal when you think of the welds in that area.

re ti frames, as soon as i have them i'll be posting photos up. About a month away at the moment.

colours - don't really want to spoil the surprise just yet

I've been using a grub screw ebb for nearly nine years now on my off road commuter, it's never given me any problems in that time. It would be my first choice if I were looking for another frame.
I think I'm going to find the Ti Stooge hard to resist but in reality I think the single size is probably just a bit to big for me.

I've been using a grub screw ebb for nearly nine years now on my off road commuter, it's never given me any problems in that time. It would be my first choice if I were looking for another frame.
I think I'm going to find the Ti Stooge hard to resist but in reality I think the single size is probably just a bit to big for me.

How tall are you?

 

bear in mind the shortest rider to buy a Stooge is 5'4 and she has no problems with sizing. I know it goes against everything we think we know, but it really does shrink and grow very easily. The standover is the same as a 15" bike, but the front triangle is longer and taller. come and have a ride on one.

From what I've read the Stooge is a very capable descender however I do quite a bit of sustained climbling before going down hill, for all those who have the Stooge is it a capable climber as well or is climbing a bit more difficult because of the slack angles? I plan on running it single speed with a Maxxis Chronicle.

Climbs fine. It's not a race bike but it is a nice solid platform (mine is ss).

Agree. Actually really good technical climber. You can move around allot on the bike, it feels like it has a low centre of gravity, combined with big grippy tyres its very capable. Lighter wheel set made a difference for me on longer days with lots of climbing. Maxi Chronicle up front is perfect IMHO.

Lighter wheel set made a difference for me on longer days with lots of climbing.

Agree the bike climbs really well. I run 32:18 singlespeed and can winch myself up most things even when practically not moving it's so well balanced you can ratchet up the steep bits. Not had a pic for a while so.....
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Whats your back tyre Mr Guitar Hero?

It's a Minion DHR2 2.3, I'm currently rather fond of it. Got a nice profile on the 50mm Nextie rim

Hey Guitarhero, whats the clearance in the rear look like with those Minions on wide rims, ie:chainstay and seatstay clearance? Do you have any pics? Curious to know if those tires are wider and taller than the Ikon 2.35¨ when mounted on such a wide rim.

what would happen if you put FS on it?

There's a little more clearance than the 2.35 Ikon on a flow EX rim.

Quirrel - Member
what would happen if you put FS on it?

I'm curious about this.

Andy says that the availability of straight-steerer forks is the main issue, although it's also explicitly a rigid-fork design and it looks like it'd be hard to match the rigid fork's trail with an off-the-shelf bouncy version...?

Not for me. It's designed as a rigid bike. If you want to use sus forks buy something designed to work with them?

What did you go for?

For calaverarider
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Thought it looked bigger than my rear, which is a DHR on a p35. Great tyre and yes you have even less clearance than me. Its good to know it fits as I have an idea...

Well I've just built myself a Stooge, had 1 ride on it and it's great. The last rigid bike I rode was my 1996 Kona Lava Dome, this is better! I wanted to be able to ride this all day and was a bit worried it would be too much of a hooligan, it is a hooligan, but could still put in long days. Climbing is pretty good because you can really move your weight around to find traction. [IMG] [/IMG]
Excuse the taped on brake hose, I've used left over bits and the hose is too short, I might swap the bars to something with more sweep. Frame was 2.9kg and built with carbon wheels and 1x10 it's 12kg.

One 'ride' is usually all of a legover conversion you need to for a Stooge 🙂

And you've got lots of enjoyment to come on that bike from ride number 2 on... 🙂

re suspension forks, the bike is designed for rigid forks and as such it would be pretty hard to find a pair that would preserve th geometry, the great thing about rigid bikes is that the geometry doesn't alter at all and once you dial into that you can really become one with the way it handles. Secondly, most suspension corrected frames will have downtube clearance, this doesn't. Having said all this, one of my customers fitted a pair of Reba's with a longer lower headset cup and reports that it works very well.

The Stooge geometry is designed for slightly larger diameter front wheel, ie 29+. The rear is designed for a 29 x 2.3 rear tyre, 27.5 x 2.8 also fit, both of which will preserve the geometry. regular 29er tyres will work front and back but the handling sharpens up a little, though not in a bad way at all.

Out of interest what color EBB do people have in there Purple frames? Mine came blue, but in the pics the rest look silver?