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In my local for a lunch chat and in wanders a couple where the guy makes sure everyone knows he is vegan, rang yesterday to make sure all is going to be ok with his meal and generally stamped his personality on the place.
Oh the delight I felt when he downed his first mouthful of Timmy Taylor’s Landlord and I was able to point out that it isn’t a vegan pint.
If you’re going to be a very forceful vegan please do your paperwork.
Was it on tap or bottled?
MMMMMMM beer!
Yawn. I suppose you told him how nice bacon smells too?
Probably offered him some hot sausage too
In my local for a lunch chat and in wanders a couple where the guy makes sure everyone knows he is vegan,
Sure he did.
Sorry, maybe the title should be don’t be a cock about being vegan. AND do your research.
I spent years living with a veggie and making sure that the chips weren’t cooked in the same fat as the sausages became autimatic. And I hope I never acted as big an arse as Mr I Am A Vegan.
Sure he did.
Didn’t see you there Drac, Facebook live streaming too by the guy wouldn’t surprise me.
ICYMI,
Cougar Subscriber
Was it on tap or bottled?
Sorry Cougar, draught.
The bottled is vegan
... was going to be my point, yes. (-:
I'm vegan.
All beer and wine is vegan, as far as I'm concerned.
You are not a vegan. You are a veggie. HTH
What about advocados?
Genuine question here, honest. When people refer to their diet as 'Plant based', do they mean Vegan? Was on masterchef the other day, where they had to do a plant based menu. or does it mean something else?
Like all vegans are plant based dieters, but not all plant based dieters are vegan, kind of thing?
What about advocados?
Aren't they a type of armoured Anteater?
When the OP said “fun”...
I can understand a vegan being ultra fussy if their veganism is a ethical choice.
When almost all commercial foodstuffs contain the products of industrial scale slaughter such a person finds it difficult avoiding meat products when eating out.
Most people simply turn a blind eye to how their meat/dairy/chickens are produced.
If you're proud of being a carnivore, I suggest you take a visit to your local abattoir on killing day and listen to the distress of the animals as they approach the business end. They give every indication of knowing what's about to happen. (Try not make mental comparisons to Auschwitz)
The vegan is not being an arse, he's merely trying to avoid being an unwitting party to what he considers barbaric practices.
(No, I'm not vegan, but I haven't been keen on meat products since watching the business end of an abattoir. Put me down as an occasional carnivore avoiding the issue).
My dad used to have to do a lot of paperwork. Put me off doing a job in sales it did. Fact.
(He was an omnivore though)
If you’re proud of being a carnivore, I suggest you take a visit to your local abattoir on killing day and listen to the distress of the animals as they approach the business end. They give every indication of knowing what’s about to happen. (Try not make mental comparisons to Auschwitz)
Vegans coming out with this sort of stuff is why some people have a problem with them.
Edit.
I do note you say your not a vegan.
Vegans coming out with this sort of stuff is why some people have a problem with them.
+1. Calling dairy farmers rapists doesn't help either.
binners posts fake news shocker - sorry, I can't see that ever happening
What about advocados?
Aren’t they a type of armoured Anteater?
Portugese lawyers?
If you’re proud of being a carnivore, I suggest you take a visit to your local abattoir on killing day and listen to the distress of the animals as they approach the business end. They give every indication of knowing what’s about to happen.
Went to one as a kid and lived near another. The cows mooed and sheep went baaaaa just like the do when we moved them into a new field. No idea if that's anything like a Nazi death camp but I have my doubts.
Didn’t see you there Drac, Facebook live streaming too by the guy wouldn’t surprise me.
You were probably too busy rolling your eyes and rattling your newspaper.
Were you upset because you were just about to tell everyone you were a cyclist when he came in and took all the attention?
A small minority of Vegans coming out with this sort of stuff is why s small minority of borish people have a problem with them.
FTFY.
Strange, I can think of multiple Vegans I know who I didn't realise were vegans until I raised the issue. I guess they're doing it wrong.
Respect is a wonderful thing.
You'd think that all manner of recent events in the world should maybe encourage a less * outlook from some people. Maybe not.
FWIW I used to be * about this. Then i compared myself against rule #1. And stopped immediately. Whilst feeling pretty ashamed.
No, he is upset because this thread isn't going the way he planned. Strange, I have met about two vegans like that, yet every description of them seems to be like Eddiebabys above...Makes you wonder.
Genuine question here, honest. When people refer to their diet as ‘Plant based’, do they mean Vegan? Was on masterchef the other day, where they had to do a plant based menu. or does it mean something else?
Non-vegan here so take what I'm about to say with due consideration of that, but I would guess that someone who "follows a plant based diet" would not eat any animals or related products (milk, eggs honey that sort of thing) but would not have an issue with say wearing leather as that isn't part of their diet. Most (well all actually) vegans that I have known wouldn't be wearing leather.
Can I also just say vegan baking is bloody difficult when you are used to using butter and eggs!
If you go into a pub etc that you've not been into before and have dietary requirements then it's maybe not a surprise to find out that the hosts are not psychic and other means of communication are required in order to ascertain if you can eat there, and then confirm that everything is OK.
Someone could of course have been helpful and pointed out that the beer wasn't vegan (how wasn't it vegan and how does the OP know?) before the person drank for it. I don't think it's the vegan being the smug one here. If you don't give a poo about what you eat or the affects it has on others, then these are not challenges that you face in your every day life. Easy to judge eh?
(how wasn’t it vegan and how does the OP know?)
That beer is cleared using isinglass, made from fish swim bladders.
Oh and "plant based" - a choice based on health reasons generally. Maybe wear leather etc and more about the person than the animals / planet.
"(Ethical) vegan" - someone who sacrifices their potential like of the taste of meat and dairy etc for the great good, animal welfare, and the planet based on educating themselves on the world around them. A source of never ending attacks from meat eaters constantly trying to find out if there is hint of meat dairy entering or on the person's body despite the fact that most less vocal vegans don't claim to be perfect anyway, which makes the attacks a bit of a farce 😉
Sounds to me like the guy in question was an utter cockwomble and the "being a vegan" thing was just something to the cockwombly about.
I for one find vegans to be fairly useful. Being a lactose intolerant, I often order the vegan option from a menu as I know it won't leave me rolling around on the floor in pain.
Thanks gobuchul, I'm not in the UK any more so had never heard of the brand. Like Guinness is or was.
Oh the delight I felt when he downed his first mouthful of Timmy Taylor’s Landlord and I was able to point out that it isn’t a vegan pint.
You sound such a delight to be around. I hope he told you to **** off.
You were probably too busy rolling your eyes and rattling your newspaper.
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I was reading Private Eye at the bar.
Were you upset because you were just about to tell everyone you were a cyclist when he came in and took all the attention?
My singlespeed was by the door. Did i mention I ride a singlespeed? Not many animals used in its construction either...
You sound such a delight to be around. I hope he told you to **** off.
No, after his posturing on arrival that option had well left the paddock.
If you’re proud of being a carnivore
Carnivore! LolZ!
Epicyclo, a salient post sir.
[i]a salient post sir.[/i]
It's not, it's bollocks. "Proud of" and "carnivore"... bollocks
"Plant-based" is the new word for Vegan, where they don't want to scare people off e.g. in Marks and Spencers. I eat a plant-based diet, though much of the plants it is based on are in the form of animal fodder.
If you've ever been on a dairy farm when the calves are separated from their mothers (at 3 days, I think) you will probably think seriously about this vegan thing, or at least about those Bose headphones.
Cool story DebZ.
What about advocados?
That's an egg-based liqueur, so definitely not vegan.
DezB
a salient post sir.
It’s not, it’s bollocks. “Proud of” and “carnivore”… bollocks
The people with a problem with vegans seem very keen to push their views on other people.
They also seem obsessed with their bacon and steak eating etc, so literally proud, and by definition carnivore, although I'm not sure if bollocks are a frequent menu item.
Pretty sure the people talking about eating bacon and steak are more likely to be omnivores. I bet they like their bacon in a sandwich (maybe with some kind of sauce) and their steak with chips.
The people with a problem with vegans seem very keen to push their views on other people.
And likewise there are an equal number of vegans similarly keen to push their views on other people.
I’m say this as someone who didn’t eat meat for 18 years for my own reasons and to my own rules who got heartily fed up of patronising vegans who took it upon themselves to repeatedly educate me in the evils of honey, diary etc.
I don’t have a problem with vegans just with people who assume others don’t share their choices through a lack of education/knowledge. For the record I have been to an abattoir, albeit a small local one, and that had nothing to do with my choices then or now
Lived with a veggie and had a largely veggie lifestyle for years. A few vegan friends. No problem with vegans, far less than with "veggies" who announce "I only eat fish or chicken". This case it was the way he announced to everyone (probably just meant to impress inform his partner) about his lifestyle choice.
Respect to those who are prepared to go veggie or vegan, especially vegan as that is not an easy route to follow.
But neither is the singlespeed life.
When people refer to their diet as ‘Plant based’, do they mean Vegan?
Sounds to me like someone for whom being vegan is no longer special enough.
The vegan is not being an arse, he’s merely trying to avoid being an unwitting party to what he considers barbaric practices.
Or, y'know, just trying to make sure that the food he's buying is suitable for vegans and not cross-contaminated. Of all the places one could be gratuitously telling someone they're vegan in a "look at me" sort of way, surely a pub / restaurant is not one of them. If they were in a bowling alley the OP might've had a point.
The fact that this thread is called "vegan fun" and the OP took great delight in waiting for the chap to drink his beer before being "able" to inform him that he'd made a mistake demonstrates quite clearly to me who is the arse in this particular tale.
I can't possibly imagine why the chap might've felt the need to be "forceful" when crappy attitudes like this prevail. Maybe if people were quicker to go "hey mate, I couldn't help but overhear you're vegan, are you aware that the pint you're getting isn't vegan-friendly? You might want to order something else, the bottled Landlord is fine," they might not feel the need to be so forceful about it in future.
But no, it's far easier to just bleat on about vegans this and vegetarians that when in reality the vast, vast majority of people who constantly make a song and dance about what someone else eats is the omnivores.
And likewise there are an equal number of vegans similarly keen to push their views on other people.
Then your experience differs greatly from mine. As I said the last time this came up (like three days ago or whatever), in my entire life I've met precisely two preachy vegans.
The first was a card-carrying Professionally Offended at University who was variously vegan, a man-hating lesbian (even though she had a boyfriend, I never did work that one out), a Christian of some form or another, and whatever other -ism du jour she could come up with.
The second was a random lass in a pub who was trying to pick a fight with anyone who'd listen. Full on "meat is murder" type, making herself a proper pain in the arse.
And as I've said time and time again, a shouty minority is rarely representative of a demographic as a whole. Not all Muslims are terrorists, not all leavers are gammons, they're just the ones who shout (or explode) the loudest and give the rest a bad name.
Enjoy your bacon.
I don't mind vegans, I couldn't eat a whole one though! 😆 😆
edit- huge respect to vegans for being able to do it.
😆
Sounds to me like someone for whom being vegan is no longer special enough.
TBH I had thought it was the other way round, they didnt want to be associated with Vegans, or at least the ones that folk claim ram their lifestyle choice down others necks.
Also, Plant based, meaning they don't eat meat/dairy but then don't have a problem with new fivers/leather pants shoes etc seems reasonable.
Are we having fun yet?
No, didn’t think so.
“...couldn’t eat a whole one...” That’s funny. 😂
They also seem obsessed with their bacon and steak eating etc, so literally proud, and by definition carnivore, although I’m not sure if bollocks are a frequent menu item.
You may want to check your definition of "carnivore" for errors, unless your real name is humpty dumpty.
I'm off for pub meal tomorrow where you order at the bar. I hope the people at the bar don't think I'm announcing to everyone that I'm an omnivore.
http://www.barnivore.com/ is useful, most (99%?) cask ale is isinglass fined and I can't see that changing though a few breweries are labelling their cask as vegan. Easier pickings with craft keg and bottled, though I have noticed more lactose creeping into the former (eg Milkshake IPAs)
cask ale is isinglass fined and I can’t see that changing though a few breweries are labelling their cask as vegan.
Yeah. As I understand it, the alternative to finings requires the beer to sit for a few weeks, and cask doesn't generally keep for long enough. Either that or have cloudy beer.
TBH I had thought it was the other way round, they didnt want to be associated with Vegans, or at least the ones that folk claim ram their lifestyle choice down others necks.
Fair enough. Dunno.
Also, Plant based, meaning they don’t eat meat/dairy but then don’t have a problem with new fivers/leather pants shoes etc seems reasonable.
Funnily enough, that was one of the arguments from the lass in the pub I mentioned earlier.
She'd assumed I was a meat-eater from the outset, never actually asked, and had been on a tirade for a good ten minutes with me countering her frankly spurious arguments. After I stopped her dead in her tracks by finally confessing I'd been veggie for probably a decade or so, she paused mouth still open for a moment then went "but you've got leather shoes!" I patiently explained that I didn't in fact eat my shoes, at which point she gave up and stormed off to find someone else to harass.
Most vegans aren't vegans anyway because there cars run on dead animals 😂
Most vegans aren’t vegans anyway because there cars run on dead animals 😂
Where?
Cougar, I used Irish moss in my home brewing days. Not sure why it isn't used commercially, I think the fish guts go in at a later stage.
Not particularly a fan of craft beer but at least they have done away with the notion that haze = bad.
still waiting for the fun in here...
when he downed his first mouthful
- mistake, let him finish his pint! 😉
For some reason this thread reminded me of similar 'fun' video with cyclists:
It all fits because he/his followers also hate have fun with vegans for equally obvious reasons.
Oh the delight I felt when he downed his first mouthful of Timmy Taylor’s Landlord and I was able to point out that it isn’t a vegan pint
Good work.
Did he take on this expression?
