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[Closed] Torque question - 6Nm

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without a torque wrench, what will 6Nm feel like if tightening up with a normal allen key ?


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 11:09 am
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Like a small terrier tugging on a trouser leg.


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:04 pm
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It feels like 6 bags of sugar tied to the end of a standard 8mm allen key.


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:13 pm
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I'm presuming your tightening some rotor bolts?

I have a very expensive Facom screwdriver type torque wrench that I "borrow" from work to fit rotor bolts!

It's not as tight as you might think, imagine tightening a wood screw and before it gets hard work is about 6Nm (having said that I'm 6'3" and built like a tank)


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:23 pm
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I was told its about as tight as you can get by using the long end in the bolt and short end to turn the allen key using only your fingers - not a vulcan death grip.


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:25 pm
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IanMunro, only if your standard allen key is 1m long..... 😉

Without a torque driver it is hard to estimate, but geoffj's recommendation sounds about on the money.
If it's for rotor bolts, I just bolt them up and then check them regularly. Never had one come loose yet and you have got 5 more holding the rotor on if one does come loose.


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:29 pm
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what a strange question to try and describe an answer. almost like asking what does chicken taste like. 😕

Since buying a torque guage, I discovered I was overtightening most of the bolts on my bike.


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:31 pm
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lobby_dosser - I presume you replaced all the bolts that were overtightened rather than just slackend them off?


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:33 pm
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Just make sure you use a small allen key rather than something like a socket bar & you should be OK
Ritchey do a little doobrey to prevent over tightening of stems on carbon bars that's set at 5Nm

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Posted : 13/01/2009 12:34 pm
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'tis actually for roofrack fixpoint bolts - Thule instruction says 6Nm, but I certainly had them a lot tighter than that when I took em off the last car !


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:34 pm
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Which is why I said "It's not as tight as you might think"

geoffj is probably pretty close TBH


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:34 pm
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Oh well that was us wrong!

I know what you mean about the fixpoint bolts though as my wife's car had them and I was never convinced it would stay on so I used threadlock as well.


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:37 pm
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[i]IanMunro, only if your standard allen key is 1m long..... [/i]
That would generate 60Nm


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:42 pm
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Oh yeah........god I am thick sometimes.


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 12:56 pm
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lobby_dosser - I presume you replaced all the bolts that were overtightened rather than just slackend them off?

No, never replaced them or slackened them off.


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 1:15 pm
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Easy way to work it out, torque = force x distance from pivot...
1 bag of sugar is 1kg. = 9.81N force under gravity.
1 m is 1m, or 3.3ish feet.

6Nm is 2/3 of a bag of sugar on the end of a 1m pole or
6 bags of sugar at 0.1m (9.81*0.1=1 roughly, multiply by 6).

Good hand tight with a normal allen key.


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 1:27 pm
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Aply some threadlock.As tight as you can until it strips the thread then back off a half turn*. Job done.

* From the hamfisted bodgers guide book


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 1:32 pm
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about as tight as putting a cap back on a plastic drinks bottle so that its tight enough to make sure that it wont leak if the bottle is on its side.


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 1:39 pm
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thanks all


 
Posted : 13/01/2009 1:42 pm
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Bit of thread resurrection here.

To test your descriptive powers a little more (seeing as you all did so well above), the main pivot on our Ventana should be 90 in-lbs.
It's a 6mm allen bolt, so with a long allen key I'm estimating 2 fingers pulling tight. Anywhere near correct?

Thanks
Rob (who's too tight to buy a torque wrench)


 
Posted : 05/04/2010 7:53 pm
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Bit of thread resurrection here

....feels like I am being stalked ! 😆


 
Posted : 05/04/2010 7:55 pm
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90 in /lb is about 10nm which would equate to a medium sized terrier tugging on a trouser leg.


 
Posted : 05/04/2010 8:00 pm
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Depends whether or not it's on a conveyor belt 😉


 
Posted : 05/04/2010 8:01 pm
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IanMunro - Member

90 in /lb is about 10nm which would equate to a medium sized terrier tugging on a trouser leg.


Before or after being given a boot?


 
Posted : 05/04/2010 8:04 pm
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Mmmmmm, don't know much about terriers (or conveyor belts) but am good with greyhounds. So does that roughly equate to a greyhound dragging the kitchen bin over?


 
Posted : 05/04/2010 8:07 pm

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