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Not quite as interesting as designing and building your own from scratch, but maybe interesting for anyone wanting a relatively easy assembled summer house.

Dunster House Coronet - 3 x 3. Bought it in the January sale, saving around £800 off list - comes in at around £2400. I paid extra for 43mm thick walls and insulated floor and roof - looking at what the insulation consisted off, this would be cheaper to buy yourself separately.

Having to try and post this in sections as the flaky hamsters won't let me post the full lot - pics to follow


 
Posted : 21/03/2020 10:48 pm
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Came completely unassembled
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Frame assembled and first couple of rows of 'logs' (that's what they call them). A bit of an arse keeping everything square at this point.
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Windows and door frame in. The relkatively cheap cost started to show here. Part of the door frame was twisted when assembled (not my fault) and had to be clamped/screwed to get it something like
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A few more logs in
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Posted : 21/03/2020 10:52 pm
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Up to roof line
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Posted : 21/03/2020 10:53 pm
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Purlins in. They attach to a spider in the middle and come with pre-drilled bolt holes and a wood to measure to the floor. This is where the first real problem started - this measurement has to be spot on, to keep the purlin angles right, which in turn allows the roof boards to fit correctly. If the distance from floor to spider is too great, the boards will get a widening gap on the ridges, all the way to the apex. I used the correct measurement, but it was quite apparent after the first few rows of roof boards that there was a widening gap. I threw the piece of wood away and lowered the spider by a couple of cm. I cariied on fitting the boards, still a gap - I deal with this later in the build.
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Roof boards on and gaps taped to keep some wet out
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Progress halted a bit due to crappy weather...
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Floor and insulation going down. Wasn't sure whether to put some sort of damp membrane here, but it doesn't state that you should.
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Floor's down and I've fitted the roof insulation - chipboard backed insulation sheets, laid on top of the roof boards - cut to instruction, but even if the gaps weren't present on the boards, these measurements would be out. Take your own measurements. Anyway, all gaps filled with expanding foam and waterproof membrane fitted. Shingles tomorrow - will update to completion. Probably taken about 4 days so far on my own - I get distracted and end up doing other things


 
Posted : 21/03/2020 10:54 pm
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Cool. Looks great 👍 Are you going to stain/paint it?


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 7:33 am
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good work that man, looks great.


 
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Are you going to stain/paint it?

Choosing the colour was the hardest part of the process when we built our log cabin 🙂


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 8:11 am
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Are you going to stain/paint it?

Yeah, it's currently untreated soft wood - probably going to go opposite to the shed. Cuprinol garden shades. Natural stone on the walls and wild thyme on the frames. If it looks gash, I'll rethink


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 9:38 am
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I built one about 15 yrs ago, only 28mm and wished I'd gone wider, but it is still absolutely fine, a good space.
Did you treat the underside of the first layer of timber you put down on the decking? Or raise it slightly off the decking with something treated.
That's the only thing I could see being an ongoing issue. Rainwater and something akin to capillary action with the grooved deck boards.
(IF it has been considered and sorted, apologies, if not I'd look at how best to do that before putting floor in etc, should be easy to 'lift' it all the way round bit by bit to put something under)


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 10:52 am
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Did you treat the underside of the first layer of timber you put down on the decking? Or raise it slightly off the decking with something treated.

The frame/bearers come pre treated


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 11:02 am
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About to start shingles on the roof. Cracking day for it 😊
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I did one about 15 years ago - used DPC under each of the floor bearers and they're still rot free


 
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timber doesn't look treated,even if they say it was I'd have still given anthing in contact with the decking another coat or three


 
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How do you lay out the shingles on that roof arrangement? Looks like it could be complicated


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 1:37 pm
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How do you lay out the shingles on that roof arrangement? Looks like it could be complicated

It is 😭

Do each flat plane, cut at the ridges and then cut more sheets to make ridge tiles

timber doesn’t look treated,even if they say it was I’d have still given anthing in contact with the decking another coat or three

Probably should have done. But I'll be gone from here in the next year or two 😂


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 1:40 pm
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Same as mine. Just be careful of any winds. There's a design flaw in the frame and door hinges especially with wind (blowy type). I'm an ex carpenter and Joiner.


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 1:48 pm
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Same as mine. Just be careful of any winds. There’s a design flaw in the frame and door hinges especially with wind (blowy type). I’m an ex carpenter and Joiner.

As in they just lift off?

It's just survived 2/3 storms with the doors held shut with a tub of fence treatment, but I'll bear it in mind 👍


 
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that's ok then 🙂


 
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The hinge design is terrible. I've reinforced them either side by 20mm by 40mm PAR bolted through the door. The first doors split and finally the wind eventually got to them by ripping the frame. I kid you not. Just unsure you have something to stop the doors binding on the frame. Good luck. You'll be ok if the gardens sheltered well.


 
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Roof's done. That was a PITA

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Get some small gutters. Ended up getting them and the downpipes from Screwfix..


 
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Get some small gutters. Ended up getting them and the downpipes from Screwfix.

Will do - not bothered about dripping water, more to protect the decking. Need some for the other shed too.

Do you, run the water off somewhere, or store or in a butt?


 
Posted : 27/03/2020 8:40 pm
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Some paint on the walls, sockets fitted and wired - still got to do the mains and alarm - bear in mind it's primary use will be an office. Frames, ceiling and outside still to paint. The rest of the garden is an ongoing project - went back to a blank canvas last summer

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looks lovely, very neat job.....


 
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Looking great, but, why is the alarm bell box on the inside?


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 9:22 pm
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Looking great, but, why is the alarm bell box on the inside

Cheers

Tea leaves drill the box and fill it with expanding foam if it's accessible


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 10:26 pm
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Tea leaves drill the box and fill it with expanding foam if it’s accessible

Ah, didn’t know that.

I made a dialler/text system for those type alarms years ago using a relay, Raspberry Pi and USB/serial adapter, plus a shell script.

If anyone is interested I can do some instructions and post the code


 
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I made a dialler/text system for those type alarms years ago using a relay, Raspberry Pi and USB/serial adapter, plus a shell script.

If anyone is interested I can do some instructions and post the code

Cheers, but going to get a Nest IQ outdoor security cam for outside and some Blink XT2's for the inside


 
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Don't forget to strap the roof down

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Don’t forget to strap the roof down

Blummin Eck. Cheers, was thinking I could probably get away without doing that. Will have to shorten the timber braces, due to where I've mounted the conduit, but should still do the job 2/3 of the way down the wall


 
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That was in quite an exposed location, and storm Ciara sure kicked it in the balls...

Its being replaced, and the new one is going to be strapped down to the deck, and the roof will be strapped down to the walls. Still not a particularly durable design IMO.


 
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Update for anyone that's interested. Not had too much time to spend on it lately, been working and trying to get some miles in on the bike.

Outside looking almost finished. 2 coats of Cuprinol Garden Shades. I hate painting

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I like that. I'm thinking of something similar but smaller for our small courtyard garden. I love being outside, work outside, ride and walk outside but don't like sitting outside (odd I know). It will be built from scratch though, so more of an overbuilt shed than log cabin with loglap tongue and groove for 'authenticity'.


 
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Where did you get that from STR? I have a spot in our garden that would be perfect for such a shaped building.


 
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Where did you get that from STR? I have a spot in our garden that would be perfect for such a shaped building.

@johndoh - Dunster House, it's the Coronet 3m x 3m with 46mm (? The thicker wall anyway) insulated floor and roof and roof shingles. Got it in the January sale, saving about £800 on list. It's not perfect quality wise, but nothing major and I'm happy with it now it's up - very sturdy


 
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Cheers - now to convince my wife...


 
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Looks good built up.

Off the back of this Mrs brain has ok'd the warmalog 3x3 from Dunster.

So now I need a spark to do me some cabling...


 
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Looks great 🙂
We were going to get something similar but didn't really have a decent place to put it.

So stuck a gondola on the patio instead 🙂

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EDIT: I don't recommend that beer.


 
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So now I need a spark to do me some cabling

Yes, get a spark for the connections, but for a cable, what are you running and what distance?

If it's just a heater, light and a couple of sockets and the summer house isn't going to be 15 miles away, them probably a piece of 6mm sq 3 core armoured cable, laid in at a suitable depth (ideally 450mm where anyone would be digging, but must probs go to about 300mm 😂). Is your house distribution board on an outside wall? I'll take some pics of mine shortly


 
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If it’s just a heater, light and a couple of sockets and the summer house isn’t going to be 15 miles away, them probably a piece of 6mm sq 3 core armoured cable, laid in at a suitable depth (ideally 450mm where anyone would be digging, but must probs go to about 300mm 😂). Is your house distribution board on an outside wall? I’ll take some pics of mine shortly

So I've a 50mm conduit and pull laid in already when I had the water pipe run so that's easy, but that needs a cable running internally in the house, to the conduit, then 30m to the summer house, so 6mm be way over for what's wanted!

It's the dragging it through my walls and into my distributon box that really I want a spark for because, frankly, I don't like dirty work 😉


 
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Started to get some office furniture in there

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I dug a 75cm trench and used guarded cable. presented to the RCD and my mate installed the gland and made the final connection. At the house end I brought it through the wall and terminated into a cooker socket with an isolation switch with the other side connecting to an RCD in the main house board. The cooker socket with a light allows me to isolate power from the house which just gives me reassurance if I am going away for a bit.

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That is my favourite tool ever surfer, the wee dewalt, paid for itself so many times now!.

My summerhouse is pretty similar to TAFKASTRs, I'll get some pics up this weekend when I finally get the windows and doors painted.


 
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Sofa in and mirror up. Waiting for a filing cabinet to match the desk, beer fridge and coffee machine (got a Krups Nespresso waiting in a box) for the far corner (more room than it looks - wide angle pic), some pictures on the wall, some plants and a shelf above the desk and it's done. Erm, apart from painting the ceiling and 2 walls outside....

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That looks fabulous Artist and particularly like the chair. The outside looks lovely with the pastel shade really finishing it off. Good work that man!


 
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Cheers c_g 😊

Not to everyone's taste, but I love my chair too

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Posted : 19/05/2020 8:03 pm
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Some lovely set-ups.

Wonder why they are all so obsessed with massive windows? I suppose people want to look out on to the garden ... but it's an office. Surely security would come a little higher up the requirements...


 
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Exterior will be to match my shed, which is actually same size/shape

Nobeerinthefridge

Make it a different colour, same colour as shed will look whanky

STR

Hmmm, will have to think about colour. Mrs STR will probably have a moan if I introduce another colour – sheds a bit nicer (greener) than it looks in the pic

And the final post from Garden Office from 4 months ago by one avdave2 😊

Got to agree with that. Why not reverse the scheme with the windows and walls. That way they look different without introducing any new colours.


 
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Erm, apart from painting the ceiling and 2 walls outside….

Why would you paint the ceiling? Looks great in bare wood. Nice office BTW 🙂


 
Posted : 29/05/2020 10:46 am
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Wonder why they are all so obsessed with massive windows? I suppose people want to look out on to the garden … but it’s an office

Mine ain't an office! it's a summer house build thread, and I want light in there.


 
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And the final post from Garden Office from 4 months ago by one avdave2 😊

I listened and pleased with the result. Thanks 😊


 
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Wonder why they are all so obsessed with massive windows? I suppose people want to look out on to the garden … but it’s an office. Surely security would come a little higher up the requirements…

I'm guessing you're talking more about the ones with bi-folds?

Anyway, I'll probably put some blinds up. But it's got security cameras and hard wired domestic burglar alarm for now


 
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Beer fridge has arrived 😁

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Think it belongs to another user a few posts above.


 
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I listened and pleased with the result. Thanks 😊

We both know it only matters what your wife thinks! 😊

It does look very nice, love the interior.


 
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Think it belongs to another user a few posts above.

😂 Took me a second.

Let it settle for 24hrs and just turned it on. Will be filled 😊


 
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Think it belongs to another user a few posts above.

🙂 lol....


 
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We both know it only matters what your wife thinks! 😊

It does look very nice, love the interior

She was dead against it, deemed unnecessary.

I've pushed it through in the premise that I needed an office (which I did).

She admits it's nice now it's done - helps that the rest of the garden is getting sorted too.

Cheers


 
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She admits it’s nice now it’s done

Oh dear, enjoy your office while it’s still yours.


 
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Oh dear, enjoy your office while it’s still yours.

I think she's still quietly protesting. It's s lovely place to sit with the doors open with a coffee in the morning, or a beer in the afternoon. So far she's not entertained it 😂

She knows it's my space, but I'm more than happy to share (that's what I tell her anyway 😉)


 
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Now full-ish 😊

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A couple of bottles and a stack of cans of 'Wife Beater', you will be fine 🙂


 
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cans of ‘Wife Beater’

Is that to discourage office take over attempts?


 
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