Sense check... keep or remove SRAM AXS Transmission from a new bike

Isn’t it meant to reduce drivetrain wear on e-bikes?

I accidentally bought a new (not eeb) bike with Transmission on it, in the CRC fire sale and had the same thoughts about atripping it off and selling it.

Kept it

Love it

We have it on our Turbo Levos and wouldn't go back.

I have AXS on 3 bikes (an eMTB and 2 gravel bikes) and Ultegra di2 on the others 2 (road and eroad). I wouldn’t go back to cable shifting on any of them.

Shifter batteries last for ages and so do the rear mech batteries. TBH if you can’t keep on top of that, you shouldn’t really be buying an e-bike. If it’s going in the car just take the mech battery out when you load it in.
If you run a Garmin you can pair the bike and it will give you a read out of the gear you’re in. It will also give a beep to let you know you’ve ran out of gears, which is really depressing on a normal bike.

I’ve had a a for about 6 months and have a few thoughts on some of your points.

You get used to not being able to hear the clicks or feel the physical feedback on the top/bottom cog.

Living with batteries is okay, keep a spare shifter battery with your pump etc and check your derailleur battery after each ride and you should be fine unless you’re planning a big ride. I don’t bother taking the battery out to clean the bike but don’t use a jetwash, I would take it out if you’re driving more than 30 minutes or so though.

The main benefit I’ve found is that I don’t have to make any adjustments as the cable stretches which means every shift has been perfect so far.

Would you replace with a cable drivetrain from the off?

God no, it's amazing stuff. The only issue I've had was when the charger got lost in the van on a trip away but that is my fault not the system.

Mates axs got stuck in 5th gear on final stage of pmba yesterday, no idea what caused it and obviously any drivetrain can fail but he wasn't happy!

I’m not ready to switch to it yet but if it came on a bike I was buying, especially an e-bike that needs charging anyway, then I would definitely keep it.

Great to hear you all like it!

Isn’t it meant to reduce drivetrain wear on e-bikes?

It is, and I'm sure it does in most respects. However the aluminium 32T chainring and big cog on the cassette will still wear faster than steel.

Shifter batteries last for ages and so do the rear mech batteries. TBH if you can’t keep on top of that, you shouldn’t really be buying an e-bike. If it’s going in the car just take the mech battery out when you load it in.
If you run a Garmin you can pair the bike and it will give you a read out of the gear you’re in. It will also give a beep to let you know you’ve ran out of gears, which is really depressing on a normal bike.

I read 25 hours for the mech, and 2 years at 15 hours per week for the shifter. Should be plenty really. I'll definitely be able to keep on top of it, just a few little habits to get on top of. That Garmin beep sounds great, unfortunately I run mine on silent to prevent all the incessant beeping.

Living with batteries is okay, keep a spare shifter battery with your pump etc and check your derailleur battery after each ride and you should be fine unless you’re planning a big ride. I don’t bother taking the battery out to clean the bike but don’t use a jetwash, I would take it out if you’re driving more than 30 minutes or so though.

Yes I'll get into the habit of checking and removing, but also get a spare to keep in the car.

I’m not ready to switch to it yet but if it came on a bike I was buying, especially an e-bike that needs charging anyway, then I would definitely keep it.

Indeed. The benefits are supposedly more worth it, and there's a natural trigger to charge it.

+1 on never going back to cable. I got my 1st AXS groupset when it first came out in 2019, still haven’t needed to change a shifter battery.

Being on an ebike means being in the wrong gear isn’t as much of an issue as on a regular one.

pretty sure aftermarket chainrings are available for transmission now too.

the motion sensor works on G forces, so unless you drive to the trail always at full throttle or hard on the brakes, it’s not an issue. I don’t take the batteries of of mine and have never had an issue.

One of the pogo pins for battery connection died at the weekend, leaving me stuck in 3rd for 30km.

Still wouldn't go back to cables though.

I test rode a bike with AXS GX. I really didn't like it and would have striped and sold the bits for Shimano mechanical. The price of the rear mech alone would make me say nope.

pretty sure aftermarket chainrings are available for transmission now too.

Yes, although all the ones I've seen are of a plain design i.e. not the special profile as found on the official one. I'll definitely try one when due for replacement.

so unless you drive to the trail always at full throttle or hard on the brakes, it’s not an issue. I don’t take the batteries of of mine and have never had an issue.

Interesting. I see you can check the precise battery level using the app, so I could check that to see if driving consumes any amount worth worrying about. You'd think that being on consumes relatively little vs. actuating shifts.

I don't like transmission for some of the reasons you outlined in your OP but I don't dislike it enough to switch.  That's be double if the bike had headset routing for cables.

I also ride a lot more than 25 hours plus drive to / from the trail head without issue.  I suspect it depends a bit on terrain - I'm a lot of winch / plummet so not much shifting. If you are XC racing then things might be different....

On the battery discharging when in/on car, I have found that if the bike is lying flat inside the car it doesn’t deplete at all, however if upright on towbar rack it can lose half its charge in an hour or 2 driving,

I test rode a bike with AXS GX. I really didn’t like it and would have striped and sold the bits for Shimano mechanical. The price of the rear mech alone would make me say nope.

If it wasn't for the frame design being hostile to cables, I almost certainly would do that.

That’s be double if the bike had headset routing for cables.

Was this trend all SRAM's idea all along!

So it’s not a direct mount chain ring? What is it then?

Doh its an ebike

Had GX AXS on my mtb for I guess three years now, still on the original mech battery. Can't say I noticed shifting being slow on the trail. Had a small branch run through the mech which had to be prised out and bent the cage slightly, hit it many times on many things, still works perfectly. Would never go back to cables.

Also, if you put it in the 52t and whip the mech battery out no thieving douchebag can ride it any faster than about 5kph if they try to steal it while you're waiting on post ride chips.

Good tip!

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Also, if you put it in the 52t and whip the mech battery out no thieving douchebag can ride it any faster than about 5kph if they try to steal it while you’re waiting on post ride chips.

User name checks out....

Are you remembering to refit the battery afterwards?

I've ridden for a good few hours with my Garmin warning me my battery was low on axs, didn't stop it shifting. My shifter was low battery for 6 months changed it at the weekend.

You can set them up to shift more gears on a long hold. 3 at a time is spot on, whole block is silly fast and also I think voids warranty if done on ebikes.

My axs XO was bashed off some big rocks in Andorra and still works perfectly. My GX also still going strong. My user error is I've set them up to shift up and down on different buttons. Which shouldn't work but I can't undo it because it works. (Upshift is top button on one bike and lower button on the other)

Also axs dropper, oh my God normal reverb lever is so stiff after that.

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On the battery discharging when in/on car, I have found that if the bike is lying flat inside the car it doesn’t deplete at all, however if upright on towbar rack it can lose half its charge in an hour or 2 driving,

How is 2 hours in the car using 12h worth of battery?

I do find this interesting.  to me the idea of electronic shifting marks a big split in cycling between those for whom its a simple machine and want to keep i tthat way and those who want every latest gadget.

For me its a deal breaker in that I will not buy a bike with it.  I believe in KISS Its an expensive complex solution in search of a problem

How is 2 hours in the car using 12h worth of battery?

no idea, but it happens.  I have heard of folks arriving at event with flat AXS batteries after a few hrs drive too.  I think the car movement must keep it jogging position or something.

I think the car movement must keep it jogging position or something.

more than riding?

I’ve had to rearrange bikes where something has shifted and pressed one of the shifter buttons so the mech is constantly trying to shift, guess that could be it.

I believe in KISS Its an expensive complex solution

For the user, it really couldnt be any simpler. Bolt on, pair, ride.

defo remove it.

and sell the mech, cassette and shifter to me for £50.

Much love.

My shifter was low battery for 6 months changed it at the weekend.

Oh so there's a warning?

those for whom its a simple machine and want to keep i tthat way and those who want every latest gadget.

And those who are the former but end up with it anyway because all but the most basic spec levels include it!

For me its a deal breaker in that I will not buy a bike with it.

I went into this thinking it and headset cable routing would be deal breakers. It's just so prevalent on some classes of bike, I'd have had to rule out a lot of the already few options.

For the user, it really couldnt be any simpler. Bolt on, pair, ride.

Its really not - read the thread with folk having issues and also a load of electronics, batteries and servos is not simpler than a cable.

The aim of KISS is to reduce failure points.  You have less failure points in a cable than in the electronics.  I don't think I have ever had issues with cable shifting that could be solved by electronic shifting.

As I say its a split in cycling about how you view things.

tjagainFull Member
I do find this interesting.  to me the idea of electronic shifting marks a big split in cycling between those for whom its a simple machine and want to keep i tthat way and those who want every latest gadget.

For me its a deal breaker in that I will not buy a bike with it.  I believe in KISS Its an expensive complex solution in search of a problem

I agree with the philosophy, but we've all seen the explosions in a spaghetti factory that were your e-bike conversions ?

Have to say...no matter how many my rear end has been, the shifting is precise ever single time. I've not had that on a cable system...not an every day occurrence, but the fact it never needs tweaking is brilliant.

I agree with the philosophy, but we’ve all seen the explosions in a spaghetti factory that were your e-bike conversions ?

You are thinking of someone else - mine were neat and tidy  🙂

Can't remember when I last had to tweak a mech.

I have no real issue with electric shifting - its just not for me.

I do find this interesting.  to me the idea of electronic shifting marks a big split in cycling between those for whom its a simple machine and want to keep i tthat way and those who want every latest gadget.

For me its a deal breaker in that I will not buy a bike with it.  I believe in KISS Its an expensive complex solution in search of a problem

Yes and No I reckon, definitely a gadget fans option, but also you do get  better, faster, more precise shifting. You could argue that AXS meets the KISS principle as you just bolt parts on and no longer need to trouble yourself with the old Bowden cables.

The problem for me comes with product life and plain old price, it's not cheap stuff (it may become cheaper of course) but I just don't trust either of the big S's not to us leccy shifting to drive forced Obsolescence or incompatibility (Shimano sort of already did it once with Ultegra Di2 6770 to 6870) via firmware and/or just not supporting compatible spares for more than a few years at a time...

The problem for me comes with product life and plain old price, it’s not cheap stuff (it may become cheaper of course) but I just don’t trust either of the big S’s not to us leccy shifting to drive forced Obsolescence or incompatibility (Shimano sort of already did it once with Ultegra Di2 6770 to 6870) via firmware and/or just not supporting compatible spares for more than a few years at a time…

That's my gripe with it. Surely there's nothing really to stop them being compatible, even if it needs a little widget box for the interface.  Especially the 11-12 speed compatibility. Sure they could have said the old stuff won't work on 11-34 or something, but they could at least have patched the firmware with 12 clicks!

Hence why I like the L-Twoo setup. In principle the same system can work with any cassette because you can input the number of steps and the spacing. Anything from 12s Transmission, to 13s Ekar, to an old 8s retro build on the same kit.

There's a few niggles like reviewers bricking mechs doing clumsy maintenance, and they had to remove the auto-trim feature. but on the other the whole groupset is cheaper than some mechs and it seems to 'just work' just as well as the big brands. And it takes AAA batteries!

My only real issue with AXS is the cost - there is a lot of technology and bits in there and they do cost money, but the price to the consumer is huge. The price of AXS is high (although it does tend to last well) and is a definite barrier. However, maybe that is good as I'm not sure how much of it is recycleable when it does finally fail.

Like everything 'new' plenty people won't be keen on the idea of having to recharge a battery every 4-7 weeks - many seem to manage to plug their phone in to recharge every night, but this seems a whole new level of inconvenience. If you are even slightly curious I'd suggest you try it and see how you get on with it.

The new T-Type isn't something I've got and to be honest, I don't think I'd be keen on it - I like the rapid gear change and I rarely do more than 2 shifts at a time and I don't tend to do it under load...so the advantages of T-Type aren't as good for me, but non-T-Type is utterly brilliant for my use, just wish it was cheaper. I've not managed to write-off a rear mech since I went to AXS, which I'm thankful for as it is going to sting massively if that does happen.

 I just don’t trust either of the big S’s not to us leccy shifting to drive forced Obsolescence or incompatibility

This is my main worry about it also

You could argue that AXS meets the KISS principle as you just bolt parts on and no longer need to trouble yourself with the old Bowden cables.

It really does not.  You are replacing two components with many and introducing more failure points

I think you can view KISS on this from 2 different perspectives which are both correct, but conflict.

From an installation, setup and mechanical failure  (or degregation) point of view, AXS is simpler.

From a battery charging and potential for electonics failure perspective. Cables are simpler

It really does though - as an actual principle - you remove a part from the required parts list - shifter, cable and mech becomes just shifter and cable.

As an absolutely basic KISS piece, it does do this. If you then look into each part, it probably doesn't, but the overall piece it really does. 3 required bits down to 2 - if the piece is how many parts are needed to move the chain on my bike on the cassette. If the queation is any more detailed than that then I reckon you are right.

Undeniably, axs more expensive to fix

Undeniably, axs more opportunity to get bent over form obsolescence by the manufacturer.

Personal choice whether the improvements in performance and convenience are worth these downsides

dick - you require an actuator / servo, electronic circuits and a battery to replace a cable.  Levers are exchanged for buttons.

 Levers are exchanged for buttons.

But if the actual failure rate for the button is equal or less than the mechanical shifter failure rate, then it meets KISS.  and if they both fail, replacing the buttons is easier than replacing the mechanical shifter, although less chance of fixing it I guess. Although last time a mechanical shifter failed on me - a GX that had a plastic component wear out, I couldn't get a replacement part for it anyway or work out how it all went together for that matter.

I don't think it's that simple.

OP, I think I'd live with it for a while before stripping it all off the bike.

Agreed, @tjagain, but you are now looking at the individual parts, so have gone from high level overview to a more in-depth look at each part solution. As said, there is no cable, so at a very high level you have replaced 3 required parts with just 2 required parts...which is definitely simpler. Once you zoom into each part, it isn't.

Can’t add anything technical to the discussion. However, I would have actively avoided electric shifting, but i was offered a great price on a Mondraker Neat, and the AXS came already fitted. Despite being a total sceptic before, I’d probably spec it on future bikes if I could afford it. I like it a lot. Low hassle, and no cables to stretch. I will admit that I’m still in the honeymoon phase though - I’ve been running the AXS for about 8 weeks.

i will say that I haven’t had to charge it at all in that time, despite riding every day, and sometimes twice a day. There is an SRAM app, so I periodically check that the battery is ok. I never ride without my phone, so I don’t find that an imposition.

Likewise I wouldn't have chosen it but it came on a bike I bought over a year ago and now I love the 'free from cables' performance (not just because of internal routing) that I'm spending silly money replacing a knackered dropper with an AXS reverb

Never used AXS myself but one of the guys I ride with has it on his Atherton.  He recently replaced it with12 speed XT and a cable shifter, that lasted for about a week before the AXS went back on.  He said that the  AXS was just so much better.

I used to take the mickey out of one of our group for having AXS on his mountain bike but then I got a new bike with it on and have completely changed my mind about it. It's great. I can't even really explain why because it wasn't really a chore pushing a lever, but now it's my favourite thing on the bike. If only I could afford a dropper too.

..and if you're worried about longevity or it being fragile, watch the YouTube video of Doddy dunking it into a fish tank and leaving it in his freezer.

longevity

the water and freezing test is more about robustness. Longevity is more likely to be how long S&S will maintain the firmware and app for.

I suppose it’s likely to be a few years so maybe there’ll be no ‘forgotten tech’ problems?

I've had mine for a year now with zero issues. Surprised to hear of the issues about shifting while in transit. Never seen anything but my thumb activate the shifter and never seen any inexplicable drop in charge.

Depends on how it is transported - if nothing else next to bike then likely zero issues, if you squeeze the bike in with everything else then there is a chance the bike or other stuff shifts and the controller button is pressed.
Happened to me once as I hadn't realised the bike had shifted.
I'm 5 years in on my X01 rear mech and it has been brilliant...new jockey wheels but everything is still tight and working as expected, a few scrapes but still shifting like new. 5 years isn't long, but it is a reasonable start!

I always thought electric shifting was a  gimmick

Few months back test road a few light weight emtbs that came with a mixture of AXS and Di2

To me absolutely makes sense on an MTB now, more so than a road bike, and an emtb a no brainer

Yes you get no feeling when changing gear, but let’s face it a very well set up manual shift is fairly feeling less. It’s only when gears are not synced properly that you really feel the gear change.

Anyhow my new emtb will have Di2 , because it offers further benefits with Shimano motors . Not sure why AXS is so much more expensive than Di2 , I found both brilliant in operation just the AXS shifter is more ergonomic. Fast crisp shifting , which must save wear on the drivetrain.

Ive wondered myself if these system are truly clever and prevent shifts if too much load going through the drivetrain ?

What bike are you loooking at op ?

Just as an aside Sram X01 AXS is £299 on merlin at the money.

(Just the shifter )

I got one just in case my GX dies.

My gravel bike came with AXS two years ago. I was skeptical but love it. I'm trying to justify an AXS dropper for it now but struggling with that 🙂

I’m trying to justify an AXS dropper for it now but struggling with that 🙂

I have one on my Revolt X, it is brilliant..

Sorry  🙂

This debate is interesting...I was fairly set on a Canyon Neuron CF8 with SLX, until I then noticed Canyon have 2 versions of the CF9 - one is the top spec, which at £4.4k is way out of my league, however, the CF9 AXS is £2.5k. The CF8 is £2.2k. Other than transmission, the CF9 seems to have the better spec fork (FIT vs Grip damper), but then it's just SRAM vs Shimano on brakes etc. Such dilemmas (laughing emoji!)

Just as an aside Sram X01 AXS is £299 on merlin at the money.

(Just the shifter )

I got one just in case my GX dies.

the world has gone mad, spending that kind of money on a just in case shifter?

I suppose it comes down to money really. wireless droppers are heavier cost £500! and with internally routed cables , im struggling to see any benefit apart from the 2 times a year max, that I remove my dropper?

If youve got that kind of cash spare then thats absolutely fine, but it just seems crazy to me, £500 quid would be halfway to a weeks MTB in the alps! and Id take that every time

It's £225 for a GX mech, £299 for X01 mech. No battery, though.

Shifters are £70 & £75 for GX, £90 for X01/XX1

Tbh, that's posh mechanical kit type money (almost, at RRP)

that kind of money on a just in case shifter?

I think he meant rear mech but got mixed up in the excitement

wireless droppers are heavier cost £500!

New Fox Neo is out (I'm sure it will get a mention on STW this week) and it's four figures!

I think its the rear mech at that price. Battery is extra. Shifters start at £70. Still quite a lot of money, probably double what a normal one would cost.

Some will think its wort it, some wont.

New Fox Neo is out (I’m sure it will get a mention on STW this week) and it’s four figures!

£1149 here, or $850 in the states. One to smuggle back from holiday…

One to smuggle back from holiday…

Don't forget to smuggle a spare battery - Jeff Kendall-Mintcake liked it bar the price and the poor battery life.

Di2 isn't wireless, is it? Less tech needed so likely to be cheaper. Wireless is fantastic but an wired solution should still be a more consistent shift than a mechanical solution as well.

I wouldn't go out my way to replace it, but if the bike came with it all good. The shifting on my di 2 and sram red isn't any better than on my 10 speed tiagra winter bike tbh,  but it's certainly no worse, and I've never run out of charge

One to smuggle back from holiday…

Just pray it doesn't extend itself when you're walking through the green channel.

I always thought electric shifting was a  gimmick

So did i, so i tried loads of it (Red eTap, Di2 10, 11 12 speed, Di2 wireless, EPS, SRAM AXS (on and off road varieties)

It's still a gimmick, a couple of the add on gimmicks i quite liked, so when a bike came up with only a €400 or so price hike over the similarly equipped mechanical version (and available immediately, not 12 months down the line) i bought it.

It's just a different way of cutting the same cake. It's no faster or more accurate than my mech systems, if anything the AXS was worse. It's no lighter. No more durable, no more repeatable. Doesn't really need more, or less, looking after. *Shrug*

An interesting thing about Transmission is that all the reviews talk about the smoother but slower shifting. And they say exactly the same thing about LinkGlide - which is heavier but more durable and a fraction of the price. Yes it’s got cables to deal with but also no batteries to charge.

Genuinely stuck to see why the battery charging is such an issue - it gets done every few weeks and is the same kind of effort as plugging a bike computer in to charge up - which many people have and do. Those that don't are likely to have a mobile phone that will need recharged more often than the axs battery...plugging stuff in to recharge is an incredibly common thing nowadays, so this new bit of tech really is no different.

“Genuinely stuck to see why the battery charging is such an issue”

My phone gets charged every day etc because it always needs charging. My lights get charged before every night ride. My ebike gets charged before every proper MTB ride.

I don’t like things that are critical but only require infrequent charging - I’m guaranteed to forget!

Once I got back into MTBing in 2009, in a brave new world of suspension and disc brakes and dropper posts, it became obvious after a few years that half-decent gears like SLX just worked and anything fancier was cost for minimal benefit - whilst the best suspension and brakes actually work better. Electric gears strike me as a way to make the bike industry more profitable.

It isn't infrequent charging though...it is more efficient power use...and it has ways of alerting you so it isn't even guesswork.

Mech goes from a green led to red - needs charged. If you have the app installed, it also reports when charging is needed. If you connect axs to your bike computer that will also tell you. If you buy it, you aren't likely to forget to charge it after the first time you forget.

Plenty of ways and it takes no time at all to plug it in and charge.

We do this with so many other things that it is a non-starter as a negative.

On balance, I think I might keep it at least until the original cassette wears out.

Cheers all, sticking with this plan.

Will see how I like it, how long it lasts, and whether cassettes will drop from £200 (that's how much they are discounted from £270 at the moment) or the S1000 XS-1270 ones will be available retail. If I'm not delighted then £250 Shimano 12 cabled will be going on.

Maybe 18 Bikes will have done something with their cable routing headset prototype by then, which routes the cable outside the bearing rather than through it.

We do this with so many other things that it is a non-starter as a negative.

How many more things do we want in our lives to be checking and charging? Bikes should have zero batteries to charge or one, ideally. All these little batteries distributed all over your bike feel like an evolutionary step that we’ll look back on and laugh at one day.

GX AXS I get about 2-3 weeks between the led going from green to red. Never had a total power loss.

Did have a shifter CR2032 go flat but had a spare with me. This was after 2 years use, which is longer than an inner and outer cable change.

Totally understand if people don't want AXS. I do and think it's mint, but I absolutely want the option of cable as a back up just in case. And also if I sell i will keep it and hoy cable on.

the world has gone mad, spending that kind of money on a just in case shifter.

Sorry - derailleur. They were about 400 normally.

I purchased many things early in the pandemic when they were below standard street prices and used them over that period when stuff went short towards the back end of the pandemic.

I will use it at some point on a bike.

“ We do this with so many other things that it is a non-starter as a negative.”

Doing it with SO MANY other things is exactly why I don’t want to have to do it with a bike. It’s a similar thing with guitar and bass amps for me - yes, lots of things are digital and can be connected to computers for further tweaking or updates etc but when I’m making music I don’t want to do that, I want to get away from computers!

With bikes I’m happy to use an ebike because charging that up gives up significant advantages vs a normal bike. Same with digital recording on computers. In an ideal world I’d have the time/energy/uplifts? to not use an ebike and the time/money to be using reel to reel tape for recording. But in the world I live in those bits of tech have a useful advantage.

Anyway, tonight I shall have charged my lights but nothing else because I’ll be singlespeeding!

Did have GX AXS (not transmission) and it was great/faultless, until it wasn't

The derailleur died suddenly mid ride and I was stuck in one gear. Sounds ok, except this was a weekend away at Cwm Carn & BPW.

Total PITA over that weekend and although SRAM replaced it FOC under warranty, I then sold it and have gone back to cable. Much happier knowing i have a £40-50 spare derailleur on the shelf that I can swap out in 15mins if I need to

If you run a Garmin you can pair the bike and it will give you a read out of the gear you’re in.

I see it can collect stats of how much you use each gear over a ride too.

It will also give a beep to let you know you’ve ran out of gears, which is really depressing on a normal bike.

I see it beeps when you shift into that final gear, and it's just a normal Garmin beep. I'd think I'd prefer if it did a distinctive error double beep or something only when you're in the final gear and try to shift further in that direction.

Living with batteries is okay, keep a spare shifter battery with your pump etc and check your derailleur battery after each ride and you should be fine unless you’re planning a big ride.

If you have the app installed, it also reports when charging is needed. If you connect axs to your bike computer that will also tell you.

I'll routine check, and given the app notifies you too I don't think I need a spare.

On the battery discharging when in/on car, I have found that if the bike is lying flat inside the car it doesn’t deplete at all, however if upright on towbar rack it can lose half its charge in an hour or 2 driving,

Yes, drove 200 miles with it lying flat, hasn't made a dent in the battery according to the app.

You can set them up to shift more gears on a long hold. 3 at a time is spot on, whole block is silly fast and also I think voids warranty if done on ebikes.

Says in the app any multishift voids the warranty on ebikes, not just the whole block setting.

Good to see some positive notes on here about SRAM AXS. My new ride is coming soon and will have this setup and i'm a wifi gear virgin so looking forward to it. Will be happy to say goodbye to those days of ghost changes due to a sticky gear cable during the colder months.

My heart did miss a beat however when I learned (whilst monitoring a Facebook group) that these mech appear to have a common complaint that the bushings wear out leading to slack gear changes. Apparently SRAM are aware and are often replacing them under warranty.

common complaint that the bushings wear out leading to slack gear changes

If you suffer from sloppy bushes, I can't recommend Leap enough.  I used them after my GX AXS mech (warranty expired) started shifting terribly because of this.  30 minutes to fit and good as new after

https://leapcomponents.com/product/sram-axs-derailleur-bushing-repair-kit/