[Closed] NEW SCANDAL 29ER

What way is the bottom of the BB set up for routing - if you drill the rest of the guides are you going to be left with something scrappy under the BB?

Looks lovely. Desperately needs a white headset though. Anyone know a tapered white headset?

On-0ne used to do a white version of their mixie taper headset, have one on my other bike.

I really, really want one of these.

But I really, really, have no use for one.

Oh well. 🙄

I really, really want one of these.

But I really, really, have no money.

I really, really want one of these and i've paid for it! Just waiting for the blinkin thing to arrive..

Must admit they do seem to have got carried away with the number of cable stops and the rack mounts, the raw frame would be a thing of beauty without all the clutter.

Anyone lend me a Dremel (and teach me how to use it!)?

Must resist....green...urge to buy increasing

Mike - I'll lease it to you for a convenient monthly payment... 😉

On one seem to have a couple of lurchers for sale, I thought these weren't available till early next year. Any ideas what they are?

GregMay - Member
Must resist....green...urge to buy increasing

Hmm - worryingly, 16" raw is the only one NOT showing as In Stock at the moment...

Woo Hoo just got my item shipped e-mail

Me too, now Friday or Monday do we reckon?

They are really here!! En-route. Better decide on the rest of the bits. Who's gonna post the first pic?

On one seem to have a couple of lurchers for sale, I thought these weren't available till early next year. Any ideas what they are?

Surely will the spec and pic on the page you must have all the info you need?!? 😉

I have had the rest of the bike waiting the frames arrival.

Going to build it SS for the winter

Niner Carbon fork (white and carbon)
XT brakes
Stans Flow on Superstar hubs
Nickel Element Bar
Hope Stem
Black Deore cranks
Thomson post
Maxxis Beaver tyres

Got an 18" raw frame coming.

Going for a bit more of trail build than the one above.

20mm maxle 120mm Reba's from On One (bargain).
Angleset to kick out front slightly
Hope Pro II hubs with DT Swiss rims.
Currently running Bontrager Mud X, but will probably go for old faithful Nobby Nics set up tubeless.
Easton Haven 711mm bar.
New XT brakes from the classifieds
Thomson stem and seatpost.
Old 9 speed XT cranks (aiming for black 10 speed XT when classifieds have some)

Looking forward to the weekend..

I got a Lurcher a few months ago. It was a pre production one they had early. I asked for it with a Alfine 11 spd ready for winter. Just in from riding it now! 🙂

got a Lurcher a few months ago. It was a pre production one they had early. I asked for it with a Alfine 11 spd ready for winter. Just in from riding it now!

Pics?!?

Now im not particularly up-to-date with anglesets but im not sure if a Tapered fork in a tapered frame is going to allow you to get any 'slack' on.

Going for a bit more of trail build than the one above.

20mm maxle 120mm Reba's from On One (bargain).
Angleset to kick out front slightly

I have the cheap tapered on-one rebas in a salsa and would like to slacken it off a little, so if it can be done id like to know.

Anyone got theirs yet?

Mine is down for delivery at 2.30-3.30 apparently, so hopefully gonna start building tonight!

Hi All

Just joined the forum, should be getting my Super Raw 16" Scandal 29er Monday or Tuesday next week
This will be my first build. Got all the bits now apart from shifters and front derailler just waiting for the frame. Going for a double xt crank set 38-26 and 10 speed cassete 11-36 does anyone know if there is a specific 2x10 shifter set or do you use a treble and just set the derailler limit, thinking of going slx or xt, and what front derailler will fit I think I need bottom pull or dual pull does the swing make a diffrence, top or bottom. Looking at a dual pull Shimano XT Front Mech Top Swing 10sp M785. Any help would be very much welcome

works components have made me a 1.5deg external lower cup, tapered steerer angle headset

Ooh - not available to the general public yet? I was looking for one when I was putting my order in but had to go with an "ordinary" headset.

Mind you, it would appear that the Raw 16" is still not available to fit it to???

Thanks for that Brant, i noticed you put something on your Shedfire website about that and thought it might be something I wanted play around with in the future especially when i head out to the Alps, or times when the bike is going to spend most of it's time pointing downwards.

Are they going to be made available in the future via On-One, i notice you have a 1 1/8 version on there?

Is it this one....

http://www.workscomponents.co.uk/new---15-degree-ec44---zs56---to-suit-tapered-steerer-tube-forks-138-p.asp

nobody got any to share with the group yet?

Maybe this evening, confirmation email to state that it has been delivered and a mate turning up with beer and curry to try and get it built up asap this evening ready for a ride first thing tomorrow morning.

Will post a pic up when finished.

Mine is in the shed now, have got kids to bath, and then assembly in -4celius temp, super raw is very very shiny... My old green one looks very sorry for it's self now.

Mine arrived late afternoon, only got the seatpost and headset in before i had to come to work, busy day with the family tomorrow but may get a couple of bits done by sneaking off to the garage but it's going to be sunday before it's rolling.

hi to this forum.

My Scandal is due tomorrow - first 29er.

quick question - fitting xt 9 speed bottom bracket - will i need to face the frames bottom bracket for a perfect fit or is the frame fine as it is?

got the wheels and forks, need to get a tapered headset - any suggestions without spending too much.

thanking you in advance for your advice

photos please...

Look forward to seeing these pictures! Could be my next purchase...

OK - did anyone else order and/or receive a 16" in the Raw finish?

dcook - you won't need to get the BB shell or headtube faced, they're factory done. As for the headset On-ones own one seems pretty good

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HSOOSMTAPER/on_one_smoothie_mixer_tapered_headset

Can we offer some kind of cash prize for the first built up photo?

Lets offer a Lurcher. Thats how rare built pictures are appearing to be 🙂

Built up this evening but IPhone photo in dark is terrible, must admit lovely looking frame, tapered head and curved seat tube are great, but whoever designed where the cable stops are and the brake line holders should be shot, the front one under the top tube is far to close to the head tube and for my old original scandium Scandal to have stops for continuous gable routing but the new frame to not allow it, is a huge step back, the routing under the downtube is like something from an 80's bike , plus the front mech clamps over the bottom bottle cage hole. It is really like someone with sense has designed a good frame and got the Taiwanese YTS lad in randomly stick on the cable stops.

Why give bigger tyre clearance to allow room for bigger tyres and mud, then get rid of the ability to run continuous cable outers?

I don't have continuous outers on any bike but I've yet to have a major problem because of that.

The front mech issue is mentioned on the On One website - you need to get the model with the low mount -

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I'm going to see how mine works out with my existing (high mount) mech. Would a couple of small spacers on the bottle cage bolts not resolve the issue?

OK - photo is here. Its a Lurcher built up with alfine 11. Its was a pre production frame they had in when I wandered in and asked a few months ago. Result!

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Bloody cold though Scud - my feet are still frozen 😀

Hi Jon.

Thanks for your help mate, just need to get the blinkin right front mech otherwise there is clearance problems with the tyre as well i reckon.

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Photo in the dark is rubbish though, do i still win a prize!

They'll have one of the front mechs in MT i reckon

Wicked bike though - pleased for you buddy

dcook. Two previous Scandals have needed serious facing on the bb. I'll definitely be getting mine done again on the new one. Guess it's one of the ways they save money to keep the for down....

It is really like someone with sense has designed a good frame and got the Taiwanese YTS lad in randomly stick on the cable stops.

my slot dropout (first no scandium batch) is exactly as you describe.

front mech over the bottle cage bolts too. 🙄 you can make it work with cage spacers and move the mech up - but the shifting is shocking.

My 19.5 black and is weighing in at 3 lb 15oz.

The front top brake cable stop does look tight.

Keeping the packaging handy if the mech doesn't fit.

druidh - Member

Ooh - not available to the general public yet? I was looking for one when I was putting my order in but had to go with an "ordinary" headset.

Go direct to Works Components if On One don't have them, they'll sort you out- very good company to deal with. (got 2 of their headsets in my bikes). Surprisingly, not cheaper to buy from On One either.

Got mine built up now, no pics yet, very pleased with it, slightly disappointed with the cable and hose routing but i suspect i'll learn to live with it. Front mech was a pain though, used a normal high clamp and had to put it over the lower bottle cage mount, couldn't fit it parallel with the chain rings either other wise it rubbed on the rear tyre, so had put it slightly off centre, seems to be just about working, but not exactly ideal.

I seem to be havin same problem with front mech, seems they have designed frame to have good rear tyre clearance then the mech itself does not allow it which is counter productive.

Spoils what otherwise is a great frame

Deffo needs a low mount then?

Double specific mechs tend to have smaller cages, I have an xtr one and the cage is really short giving plenty of clearance with big tyres on a 29er.

Looking forward to seeing pics of built up bikes, however all these comments on the over-speccing of cable/hose guides has kinda put me off getting a frame.
Still trying to make my mind up between Scandal/El Mariachi or the forthcoming Kinesis 29er.
Come on, get the pics up peeps 😛

I have a couple of different low mount front mechs in 34.9 flavour you can try if needs scud?

A well thought out frame then! - designed for singlespeed or 1x10 or badly thought out?

Surely it's designed for "any" speed as long as you fit the right bits?

inbred853 - Member

Looking forward to seeing pics of built up bikes, however all these comments on the over-speccing of cable/hose guides has kinda put me off getting a frame.

C456 is the same, it's not a problem though. Still thinking I might dremel them off but they weigh nowt and add options.

Thanks Andy, going to have a mess about and see what I can bodge up, seems to be more the length of the metal cage that interferes as opposed to high or low mount?

The brake line mounts are badly designed, that front one is so close to the head tube that it completely kinks the brake line if you use it?

Will post a pic as soon as it is totally finished tomorrow

I've just slapped on an old low mount mech and there is plenty of room. Lots of FS frames only take low mount mechs so its not really a problem. Once its built you hardly notice the extra guides and I'm sure they'll come in useful when it turns into a commuter in a few years time!

scud - Member

that front one is so close to the head tube that it completely kinks the brake line if you use it?

This is kinda ironic- the ones on my 456 are absurdly far back, so that it almost looks like there's one missing.

The spec says guides for full outer gear cables, doesnt sound like it has though, can anyone confirm?

No they aren't for full length outers, unlike old Scandal frame.

still need to buy a tapered headset for the scandal build.
using standard 1 1/8th steerer suspension forks.

on-ones smoothie headset seems fine but a bit expensive?
can anyone else recommend one either cheaper or better at the same price. best place to buy it?

cheers

I just ordered a Smoothie and asked them to fit it for me.

Here's a picture of mine finished now,

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kitted out with Reba RLT, On one wheel set (in case you hadn't noticed), Sram X9 mechs/shifters, XT cranks, Avid Elixr's, weighs about 24lbs.

Looks goooood!

Is it your first Scandal?

If not, I'd like to know your thoughts from the original Scandal!

Regards.

looks remarkably like the old one, but with a sillier headtube 😀

First 29er Scandal, i traded up from a 26" to get this after falling for the bigger wheels.

prostate saving saddle angle too

Bazz - what front mech are you using there?

prostate saving saddle angle too

There may be a few tweaks yet!

Bazz - what front mech are you using there?

Sram X7 high clamp.

The angle the front near side gear cable enters at the headtube is worrying!

Get that saddle nose up too 🙂 Natural contraceptive innit.

Very nice Bazz. Mine is coming very slowly - only the crankset and derailleurs so far!

What headset is that? Looks nice and low.

How are the Rebas? I was holding out for 29er SIDs but I can't see the point as the weight is the same.

Just finished building my raw frame up an hour ago, rides so much nicer than the old Scandal frame, feels a lot stiffer going from old frame with 1 1/8 headtube and fork with 9mm QR to the new tapered headtube and the Reba's with 20mm thru-axle!

I still don't think that the gear cables running under the downtube and not being able to run full length outers is good in winter, but will have to invest in some Gore cables i think.

I'm trying my forks at 120mm first see how it handles, if no good, then will drop them to 100mm.

I've no light in garage, so will post some pics tomorrow.

so what's different about the new one?

Headset is an On-one smoothie mixer, haven't had a chance to ride it properly yet so can't say much for the forks performance but they are light and smooth.

Hey, Ive got one of them, or is this one from a couple of years ago? I cant tell...... 🙂

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no bent tube, old

I'm just going to get my pipe benders out and sort that. You'll never know the difference.

Chainslapp!

You'll also have to re route ya cables, not to mention the headtube! 😉