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 Mark
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So, we've upgraded and modified a lot of the databases and technical bits and bobs around the back of the forum today. There's a lot more still to be done and that means some things may be a bit different. I'm asking you to bear with us while we keep working on it.

So, you will notice that the forum search has disappeared. This is temporary and it will be switched on and tested shortly. I'm sure there's some other issues you will find and by all means point them out here.

A point to bear in mind is that this is the start of some major site development and changes that we have planned for the coming weeks and indeed months. The end point of all that is a happy place with lots of new things to play with, but getting there may be a bit bumpy at times.

Cheers
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Posted : 24/01/2018 1:10 pm
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Brilliant, thank you!


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 1:38 pm
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Looking nice


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 1:57 pm
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O...M...G 😮


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 1:59 pm
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There is a very annoying rogue query that is slowing things down to a halt. We are trying to find what is triggering it. So bear with us.

We think it’s to do with the RSS feed.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:26 pm
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Glad that you are trying to improve things.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:45 pm
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For something that costs me nothing  (and when it's not there it feels like I'm missing a limb) all I can say is thank you for your efforts.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:50 pm
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The green makes me feel ill.

good work though worker bee IT cru


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:50 pm
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Thank you Mark.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:51 pm
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The green makes me feel ill.

What green?


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:52 pm
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We are aiming for stability right now. We will then set to on the fine details... including colours and styling 🙂


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:53 pm
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Hmm, also unsure about the green accent.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:55 pm
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Mark is no longer the resident grumpy, he is now just a subscriber. (would insert smiley, but none available)


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:55 pm
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Yay, finally looking good on a mobile. Good work 🙂


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:56 pm
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This is a game-changer! Top effort team!


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:56 pm
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Is it 2014 already? Will Joe cocker be playing at the new forum opening ceremony?

Before the whinging starts, Thanks!


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:57 pm
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Looks much better 👍


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 2:59 pm
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Just checking something....


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:00 pm
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Ahhh...If I increase the zoom level to 133% (from 120%) then I see the green. At the 120% zoom, it looks mostly like the older version. (Win 10 PC, Firefox)

Edit - the 133% with the green doesn't look good on a PC.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:02 pm
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Mark, just a quick headsup, when viewing in a minimized screen the avatars such as JoeG's above appear in full screen and are huge compared to the rest of the text (on Google Chrome)


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:04 pm
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Mobile version looks much better. The swamp green type on the desktop version is hideous though.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:04 pm
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And weirdly, I can log in on my PC, but my Ipad still says the forum is borked?


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:04 pm
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Server is running a little hot right now but it’s still going.

About to turn on something that could either make that better or worse 🙂


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:05 pm
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Mark, just a quick headsup, when viewing in a minimized screen the avatars such as JoeG’s above appear in full screen and are huge compared to the rest of the text (on Google Chrome)

I wondered what that square smudge was...


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:05 pm
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Oh, and the sticky below?

The link goes back to a thread about Juicy Brakes..


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:06 pm
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The quote/italic forum codes aren't working proper btw.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:07 pm
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Quote function has a bug (or I'm using it wrong).


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:07 pm
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Yeah we are aware of the issue with the large icons. We are just making sure the engine is running smoothly before we set to cleaning up the upholstery 🙂


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:08 pm
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In some respects, it looks like the pre-2008 STW.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:08 pm
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Quote function has a bug (or I’m using it wrong).

Ah the quote function seems to work differently.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:09 pm
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Two observations;

What is 'Engagements' in profile/forums? Seems to be showing threads I'm not engaged in?

Topics created (profiles/forum) is excluding topics in sale/wanted forums.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:11 pm
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Ooh, new toys !!! Well done. Keep up the good work.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:14 pm
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Seems like you have to login to post....stealth way to get people to subscribe.. like it.

I was at my wit's end the whole morning


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:17 pm
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Running slow right now as we sort out some cache issues.


 
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What is ‘Engagements’ in profile/forums? Seems to be showing threads I’m not engaged in?

Think it's just showing everything off the forum, so a bit broken

EDIT: quote button broken on firefox


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:22 pm
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TaVM’ly.

I like the green..


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:24 pm
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Ahhh…If I increase the zoom level to 133% (from 120%) then I see the green. At the 120% zoom, it looks mostly like the older version. (Win 10 PC, Firefox)

Edit – the 133% with the green doesn’t look good on a PC.

New format (with green) looks good on my phone, though. (Android, Chrome)


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:24 pm
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Those avatars are massively enlarged and unsightly.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:29 pm
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I don't like the green/khaki so much - was OK as a background in the days of old (is it the same colour?) but no good for text on a pale background


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:31 pm
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No green on Mac OS?

Where are the smileys?


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:33 pm
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Shiny shiny


 
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<p style="margin: 10px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background: transparent; line-height: 1.2em;">Those avatars are massively enlarged and unsightly.</p>

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yep fully agree. no need for them either really

Quote function seems a bit wonky too.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:36 pm
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"Mark - About to turn on something that could either make that better or worse 🙂"

All IT work summed up in a single line. "Maybe it'll be great or maybe it'll go on fire, who knows?"


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:36 pm
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er... I think I broke the quote bit.

Was replying to the avatar looking pants post


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:36 pm
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There doesn't seem to be a way to click back to threads you've replied to from your profile?


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:39 pm
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Those avatars are massively enlarged and unsightly.

Only on the mobile version. They are tiny (same size as the font) on the PC vewrsion


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:39 pm
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Is there really going to be an avatar option.

I like the "like" button.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:40 pm
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There doesn’t seem to be a way to click back to threads you’ve replied to from your profile?

Yes, posting history is missing. No "Threads Started" or "Threads Replied To" (I think those were the headers).

Only the private message stuff is visible.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:43 pm
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Classifieds replies bumping to top of the page.

Keep up the good work, cheers.


 
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Where’s the like button?

i can’t seem to upload an avatar in my profile page on my iPhone. Pressing the “upload” button doesn’t do anything.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:44 pm
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Ok. We've been here since 6am and we think we are at a point where we can leave it alone for a few hours and get some sleep. There's lots for us to work on tomorrow to optimise things before we move on to tidying up the styling.

Thanks for bearing with us today.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:44 pm
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I don't like the green, it's ok in the threads but on the forum homepage it hurts my eyes. Bleugh.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:45 pm
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Ok. We’ve been here since 6am and we think we are at a point where we can leave it alone for a few hours and get some sleep. There’s lots for us to work on tomorrow to optimise things before we move on to tidying up the styling.

Checking the quote


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:46 pm
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The 'forum activity' option has gone under your profile drop down, I used to use this to check updates to threads I'd started/posted in a lot.

Bookmarked link to the same no also no longer works.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:46 pm
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<span style="color: #444444;">I like the “like” button.</span>

There's a like button?


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:46 pm
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Ok. We’ve been here since 6am and we think we are at a point where we can leave it alone for a few hours and get some sleep. There’s lots for us to work on tomorrow to optimise things before we move on to tidying up the styling.

Thanks for bearing with us today.

Thank you.


 
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Yes, posting history is missing. No “Threads Started” or “Threads Replied To” (I think those were the headers).

eh? I can see a list of topics started pretty much as it was before. The list of replies now provides the whole text of your reply, but there doesn't seem to be a way I can find of actually going to the thread you replied to - not that I can find.

More importantly though the updates's broken the Chrome Forum Extender Tools and I'm going to be forced to do an update to that to get easy quoting back (assuming that isn't coming as part of the update - I assumed "reply" under each post might do that, but it doesn't seem to)!


 
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Downside for me is that the "Forum Activity" link under my username has gone.

That was pretty much the main way I interacted with the forum as it listed all the threads I was currently contributing to. Hopefully that is a temporary omission or is to be replaced with something much betterer?

Other than that, well done for the rollout!


 
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Behind the Nationwide at Swindon is a Like Button.


 
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The ‘forum activity’ option has gone under your profile drop down, I used to use this to check updates to threads I’d started/posted in a lot.

Bookmarked link to the same no also no longer works.

It's got its own tab next to it now (but you can't click on the threads to go back to them so it's a bit useless)


 
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Yes, posting history is missing. No “Threads Started” or “Threads Replied To” (I think those were the headers).

The ‘forum activity’ option has gone under your profile drop down, I used to use this to check updates to threads I’d started/posted in a lot.

Its under a heading called Forums now.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:51 pm
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Ok. We’ve been here since 6am

Ouch. My own worst launch was go into work at 8am one day an leave lunch time the next. Was so tired I couldn't type let along make meaningful fixes to the numerous issues!


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:54 pm
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Posted a reply - didn't show. Postedit again, said I'd posted it before, nothing showing.

Posted another message, ok.

Posted another message, OK.

Edited it to add soething, now original not showing.

All in the Corbyn thread - which means it is probably some ninja hacking by a momentum infiltrator who's infiltrated stw towers...


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:55 pm
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Trying to post an advert and think i broke it


 
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Downside for me is that the “Forum Activity” link under my username has gone.

I'm hoping that "engagements" will become the same thing


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:57 pm
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Anyway, am I missing something here, what is the big improvement?


 
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I love that I can see the full thread titles on mobile now - but also quite liked the guessing game before 😀


 
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You may be going to tweak this at some point, but I preferred the option that showed your forum activity.  This allowed you to see when people replied to your forum posts, particularly those in the Classifieds section which aren't bumped, but I can't see how to now do that.


 
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It’s different!   if all else fails draw a chalk circle round the server and start praying


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 3:58 pm
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Green makes my eyes hurt...


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 4:00 pm
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I Liked how you could hover over the latest reply link on the main forum page and see who had posted.

Was a good way to ignore people but it seems to have gone.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 4:02 pm
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I have no opinion other than the hope that it all works well.

I don't know what you lot are complaining about with respect to the green, though. Aren't greens and browns what mountain biking is all about?


 
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The green is plain nasty.

Other than that,  not much has changed that I can see.

Unless THAT thread has been stealthily deleted. Fingers crossed...


 
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<span style="color: #444444; background-color: #eeeeee;">The end point of all that is a happy place with lots of new things to play with, but getting there may be a bit bumpy at times.</span>

A pretty good description of mountain biking, not just the forum updates.

PS What am I doing wrong trying to insert a quote?


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 4:06 pm
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So, has it changed how we add pictures Mark?


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 4:08 pm
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Is “div class” stw’s nickname for the forum and users of? ;0P


 
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Good to see dev work going on, but this does look very much like a Work in progress.

I’m sure it’s been mentioned, but it’s basically unusable on an iPhone right now - formatting is all over and the forum icons (eg, the wheel for the bike forum) are trying to occupy most of the screen each... (fully updated iPhone SE if that makes any difference)


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 4:10 pm
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I don't appear to be able to login on my phone. I like the green though.


 
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[img] [/img]

@monkeyfeet: Nope.


 
Posted : 24/01/2018 4:12 pm
 Mark
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There shouldn't be much of a noticeable difference functionality wise from your POV. This first phase of development is much more to do with knocking our databases into some kind of reliable shape so we can start the next phase. That's why we are currently focusing on server side things before we get to front end stuff.

That said the underlying software for the forum has been upgraded to the latest version from the antiquated but deeply modified and embedded version we had before. This version better integrates with the rest of the site and will allow us to build a user/subscription system that can do what we actually want it to do 🙂

More work tomorrow.


 
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