I've recently sorted out the garage and now am looking to store 6 bikes vertical with a front wheel clamp against a wall, 2 kids bikes, hybrid, 2 road bikes and a mtb tight on space so something that dosnt need much space to release or put in. Looked at the clunk style clamps and they look good but at £12 each its a decent expense. Are they worth it or any alternatives anyone can recomend?
Cheers
These Screwfix hooks are great, and a few quid each. https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-locke-heavy-duty-screw-in-anti-slip-round-storage-hook-black-103mm/5525j
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I've just fitted these into 3 m of monorail track screwed to the roof.
Let's the bikes condense for storage and then slide out the way for removing the one I want. Lets me get 3 bikes into the space for 2 when I top and tail them
We use the Dacathlon heavy duty hooks on the back wall of the garage on an angle to get more in and ease of getting out
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Get the best.
Not cheap but if you're hanging a few grands worth of bikes - wheel supported, locked and on hinges they're actually a great solution.
Although if you think 12 is expensive you're not going to be impressed.
Their definition of lifting vs the dictionary’s appear to vary
What Rone said. They’re brilliant, but not cheap.
I’ve just fitted these into 3 m of monorail track screwed to the roof.
Genius! Got any pics?
Are the hooks secure like that? I saw these which may be betterer.....
https://www.bikester.co.uk/bicycle-equipment/bike-storage/wall-and-ceiling-rack/14499.html
Hadn't seen those wzzz
Those look good.
I'd buy those next time... But for now...if these don't hold I'll shine them up and run the mig round and they won't move.
I've got 7 bikes in what was previously a 4 bike space. Yes I have to slide them to the side to get them out but it's like closing curtains Vs the other options
I have videos but puttng them on here is near impossible without YouTube
Meanwhile....worst photo ever courtesy of casiocalculatorpotatocam
Thanks guys. I've gone with the cheap hooks as tool station had them in stock and have got the 6 bikes stored for £12
Trail rat that looks a great idea and I'll look into it when I have a bit more time as it will allow me to get N+1 in there also.
Cheers
I’ve just fitted these into 3 m of monorail track screwed to the roof.
There are already YouTube vids on how to do this. Looks a good solution
The rather prosaicly named
Rollingcentre.co.uk they hide undersliding door parts
Roller carriages were 7.40 and the galv monorail 27 quid.
Be warned the monorail is tough good drill bits required.
That looks awesome, I'm going to do it too.
Only prob I can see is the space needed to slide the bikes out gets used to dump stuff and then it becomes a PITA.
Tracey, that is a lovely looking bike I must say.
Only prob I can see is the space needed to slide the bikes out gets used to dump stuff and then it becomes a PITA.
Mine slide out over an open doorway through to the workshop so I have bigger issues if I dump stuff there.
Thanks for that
It is indeed, out of all the bikes on that photo we only have two of them left.
Mine slide out over an open doorway through to the workshop so I have bigger issues if I dump stuff there.
So glad I clicked on this thread. My garage has a door through to the office (or will have soon) so this is where my bikes are going to hang as you have done.
Found this vid:
For those putting hooks in and hanging the front wheel, is the rest wheel resting on the ground?
Also, if putting the front wheel at an angle, what's keeping it at that angle? Purely the angle of the hook?
Trying to put bikes on the wall on the new garage and have a mix of bike sizes and types (from XL to 20in kids bike) and want the kids to be able to access them on their own, which might be tricky...
benp1 - after some trial and error I have my hooks fitted so the back wheel _just_ touches the floor. Too high and the fixings started to look like the might pull out. Too low and the back wheel was sneaking away from the wall nicking a bit of floor space.
Back wheel is on the floor, hook is horizontal and the weight of the bike is keeping wheel at an angle.
Is there no issue with hydro brakes inverting bikes like that to store them? I don’t know why but I always avoided leaving them stored upside down/ vertical like that as perhaps someone told me once that it was bad for hydro brakes?
If you have air in the lines and you leave them with the levers highest, then potentially that air migrates into the lever reservoir where you don't feel it. If you have well-bled brakes it doesn't matter.
Having said that, with the bikes hanging from the front wheel, the levers are still at a high point, plus my anecdotal evidence is that I've stored bikes like that for years without a problem (including front wheel down).
Elastic bands around your brake lever stops any risk of air getting in.
And unistrut is usually cheaper than the door roller channel. More widely available. Easier to work with and more than up to it.
While unistrut is cheaper- the channels the cheap part. 41*41 Unistrut 4 wheel trolleys are 30 quid each so there's the best part of 300 quid
The wheels.on the sliders I bought for 7 quid won't run in the channels.on unistrut.
Trail Rat- you are absolutely right. I remembered the trolleys seeming a bit steep.... But £30 is daylight robbery!
Elastic bands around your brake lever stops any risk of air getting in.
Clarks advise leaving your brakes like that if you want any trapped air to migrate. As said before, I've left bikes upside down for ages and never had an issue with air migration.
Bit late to this one.
For ages I used hooks on Arris rail to get them at 45 degrees to the wall. This was for 4 bikes & while it was a good solution, the bikes stuck out too far into the garage & got in the way. They weren't top & tailed, so there was quite a gap between them.
I took it all down & now have 2 bikes on one of those pronged hangers on the wall, which isn't great as the wide bars of the mountain bike mean it's a struggle to get 2 on there.
The other 2 bikes sit below leaning against the wall.
But, I am loving the idea of that sliding rail solution. The ability to squish them all up together is really appealing. I'm gonna have to look at the space I'm using & see if that would be a better solution.
For the sliding rail people: Is there any reason why the sliding rail couldn't go on a wall? Bikes would still hang down from a front wheel, and in my case I'd avoid having to find the studs, plus I could put a shelf above the bikes. Also, since they'd be resting against the wall, they would only move if you picked them up one at a time (potentially also a disadvantage). I might have to engineer something to allow the hook to bend down at its natural angle I guess?
Here's my current set up.
Cheap and robust enough but takes up too much space
Sliding rail sounds like a good idea.
Has anyone tried this?
I find the best combination is to have bikes one above the other, takes up less space than the bike vertically if you have more than one.
Some garages will have the height for 3 bikes horizontal above each other.
Bar width is less than the bar height.
Not great for my wife to get the bike of the wall but that happens rarely now.
Not used that rich.
For your scenario it looks good. For me I wanted a roof mounted kit.
One thing I didn't note that is shown on the advert is we have the bikes top and tailed. To avoid bar conflicts.
In the overall plan - and given how much we were spending on the new house anyway - I didn't think £250ish on 5 x SteadyRacks was that extravagant. We'd bodged things a bit in our last house but decided this time round to do it once, and do it properly.
Very generously spaced at 50cm between mounts, with the 5 bikes spread over a 2.6m space. Helps to have them staggered height to avoid bar clashes. Could've squeezed in a 6th rack but that would only encourage further N+1, apparently.
The other useful trick - store bikes hanging from the back wheel, but remove the front wheel. This way, they will then hang much closer to the wall. I do this for bikes that don't see so much use.
@trail_rat - that looks like an excellent solution. Are you able to link to the exact products you have please?
That looks good trailrat, how much do they "squash" up though? I'm guessing the limiting factor is still bars/pedals so I'm trying to get my head round whether it would save space or not.
Does anyone use hinged hooks like the Feedback Sports Velo Hinge?
They look neat but I'm wondering if they would save me any space, they would still need to be screwed into a stud anyway
That looks good trailrat, how much do they “squash” up though? I’m guessing the limiting factor is still bars/pedals so I’m trying to get my head round whether it would save space or
Topped and tailed them. Got 7 bikes in a previously 4 bike space (that was still a pain to get middle bikes out)
I don't have 800mm bars though mind. And a number of thos ebikes are road bikes
I find the best combination is to have bikes one above the other, takes up less space than the bike vertically if you have more than one.
That's what I do. Two bikes top to tail secured with a ground anchor, and two bikes above held on two long shelf brackets, with an anchor on the wall. Seems to be quite an efficient use of space. I put the road bikes above as they're lighter and easier to manage.
For the sliding rail people: Is there any reason why the sliding rail couldn’t go on a wall? Bikes would still hang down from a front wheel, and in my case I’d avoid having to find the studs, plus I could put a shelf above the bikes. Also, since they’d be resting against the wall, they would only move if you picked them up one at a time (potentially also a disadvantage). I might have to engineer something to allow the hook to bend down at its natural angle I guess?
Two reasons why it wouldn't work, for one the carriages need the wheels to be vertical or they won't run, for another the wheel would drag along the wall whenever you tried to move it.
Poor mans version could be scaffolding tripod rail type thing with huge S hooks
Still keen on hearing any recommendations for any specific bits of sliding rail kit
While unistrut is cheaper- the channels the cheap part. 41*41 Unistrut 4 wheel trolleys are 30 quid each so there’s the best part of 300 quid
maybe....?
Two reasons why it wouldn’t work
How about two tracks, one at floor height, one at hook height. Link the carriages with a timber or metal strut as long as the bikes wheelbase, and use something like a steady rack or traditional wall hook with rear wheel slot to hang the bike onto the strut.
Slightly less convenient with the rear wheel positioning but should keep all the loading on the carriages in the right direction of the bikes are kept off the floor.
E: also at least twice the cost!
You could probably do something similar with sliding/pocket door hardware actually.
In that scenario I'd be mounting the bottom rail horizontally with the wheels on the user side, reason being the forces should be pushing the bottom of the post toward the wall. Your top rail would still need to have the carriage mounted with the wheels down and mounted out from the wall to accommodate some swing and adjustment of the lower carriage.
If that sounds confusing just think of a pendulum then imagine mounting a bike to one side of it and what it would do to the centre of gravity (would naturally swing out to the opposite side to the bike).
It sounds good in theory but in reality it would probably be a pig to work, there would be twisting forces in the lower carriage that would cause it to jam (the bike would swing and twist the mount every time you move it) and would cost considerably more to correct than just mounting a beam above the centre of gravity in the first place.
Good thread, I really like the look of those racks, particularly that Amazon £59.99 one. I'm now in a similar problematic situation.
I have a pentagonal garage (strange I know) which is great for working on cars and with just the two bikes, everything fitted in fine.
My partner now has a 29'er and I guess because it's women's geometry, it's longer than either of mine. Both of mine were secured to the far wall using Clugs, but the MTB one will not fit the 2.4" tyre on her 29'er, despite what the website says.
I've considered shifting some stuff around, either turning the bikes by 90 degrees or trying to put the clug high up the wall where the roofbox currently is, so that the bikes are then vertical to the wall. But as far as I can see, I don't gain much usable space.
Is the best option one of those metal multi bike floor stands and just alternate the bikes (front first, rear first, front first)? I can't put a third clug on the wall next to the other two, as I won't be able to open the passenger door on the car.
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Mount the roof box vertically next to all the bikes?
It'd take a braver man than me to risk it falling either side or onto the car! 🙂
I've done a bit of rejigging and moved the Clugs up onto the wall, and shunted the roof box along by half a metre. Unfortunately the new 29er's handlebars are a perfect match for the height of my 26" Rockhopper, and so I'd be blocking one of the bikes in if I get a third Clug.
I guess a 'normal' wall hook and hanging the bike from the rear wheel might work, bit of a big ask to get my partner to pop her bike on the wall that way though :/ Either way seems it's freed up a bit of manoeuvre room
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I've ordered up the 6 bike sliding wall rack from amazon.
Will let you all know how I get on with it
Looking at that I would get the roof box out of the way. Higher up on the same wall to allow more room for underneath or on the back wall under the wall units.
Our roof box, windsurfers and a multitude of other stuff are high up with bike storage underneath. Bikes are hung with front wheel at 45% to maximize space and rear wheel on the ground. Other bikes are slotted between rear wheels.
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Bookmarking for when I move in a month or so and will have a proper garage to hang up 2 mtbs and a few family bikes.
Thanks for suggestions, the roof box unfortunately can’t go any higher due to the roof and that weird remaining window.
I did contemplate moving it beneath the units but it would be a Herculean task to manoeuvre it past the car to the other car outside.
Think we’ll run with it on that little stand for now and see how it goes - to your point it means the bairn’s bike can slot between them on the floor.
I did a quick test with my Cycleops riser block which would mean sufficient height clearance but the width of the nobbly tyres lift the block up lol
Hope the purchase/fitting goes well Rich, interested to see the results
Sorry can't seem to edit the post above, I've ordered one of the Steadyrack MTB holders. I reckon that'll get me around the handlebar height/roofbox issue.
Thanks for suggestions, the roof box unfortunately can’t go any higher due to the roof and that weird remaining window.
Can't you hang the roof box from the ceiling above your car to free up that whole wall?
I've not got the head-height unfortunately mate. The original garage was converted into a fourth bedroom (or prison for his mother in law, I'm not sure which). So the pentagonal one was created (also by previous owner) to fill the void.
The ceiling is covered in some form of foil insulation and there are non-structural wooden battons visible - I assume there are joists behind there but can't see them.
I'd also be petrified of the roofbox faling out and crushing the soft-top car that lives in there. I think this Steadyrack will solve the issue, unless I ever get the n+1 itch 🙂
Here's the 6 bike wall rack
Pretty pleased with it. Quality is good its really solidly made.
Couple of things though, if you are mounting it to a stud wall the studs need to be 32" apart. Mine were 24". I got round this be screwing a bit of 2 x 4 to the wall.
The hooks don't slide, they have a little cap head screw to hold them in place. Its adjustable in that you can space the hooks out however you like and also move them round a bit later but they don't slide back and forth like a vertical rail could.
Still overall its pretty neat, 6 bikes now hanging in the space of 4
8/10
Nice one, looks good mate
My Steadyrack arrived today, was expensive for what it is, but it’s fixed the third bike issue for me. Moved a few other bits around and need to do some more tidying but now have pick of the bikes and can get the kiddie trailer out too
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Those steady racks look good, but I have 6 bikes hanging so the cost is prohibitive. It'd be good if someone could work out a DIY version (and share the plans).
I use four of these.
Not as good as the steady racks but a lot cheaper and do the hingeing thing quite well. About on their limit with a 15kg bike hanging off it. I reckon it could be strengthened up quite easily too.
Those steady racks look good, but I have 6 bikes hanging so the cost is prohibitive. It’d be good if someone could work out a DIY version (and share the plans).
@Superficial like this?
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@trail_rat how far off the wall did you place your track? Radius of a 29er wheel or much further away or closer if they pivot into the wall a bit?
Bit further so they pivot in.
I did use a tape but I forget the depth. It was purely plucked from.the air based on me holding my bike in the air
@trail_rat the carriages are here https://www.rollingcenter.co.uk/products/rolling-center-4-rc-4-wheeled-carriage-with-bracket-stainless-steel
But I cannot find the rail of the right size, 25mm wheel centres?
For those carridges it's 80 z or g you need
Go onto the monorail page and the spec sheets at the bottom listing compatibility those carridges are 4rc units.
Ok, one of these, got it. https://www.rollingcenter.co.uk/electric-gate-hardware/sliding-door/profiles/Rolling-Center-80-Z-galvanised-monorail-track
Really inefficient use of space, I've stuck my roof box on it's end (filled with old wheels, tyres and other assorted bulky crap) and then I use a ratchet strap to hold it (and a ladder) against the wall. Bikes upright using hooks next to it.
This should give you an idea, i can fit 4 bikes in the equivalent to the length of the box.
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Been like that for ages, takes moments to get down and the rest of the time it's out of the way. The orange is normally stood up next to it.
These look very neat
@Saccades interesting, I'd not thought to actually use the roof box for storage. For some reason there's a bloody window (blocked but still there) between the current garage and what was previously the garage. So because of the way it juts out, I'm somewhat prevented from spinning the roof box round by 90 degrees.
Certainly seems the right way to go a) if we've still got it b) when the kids need full size bikes in a few years. I can't have bikes going too far along though as the process of taking them off the wall means you're risking damaging the car. I've fixed my issues for now though and can get the bike trailer out without having to manouvre anything else out the way first.
With massive thanks to trailrat for the idea I spent this afternoon drilling the steel monorail I bought from rollingcenter and then installed it in the bike shed. The roller trolleys worked easily with B&Q hooks as trailrat suggested and I then bought 2 larger hooks from toolstation for MTB wheels which wouldn't fit on the smaller red hooks. These required grinding the thread down and tapping an M10 thread (red hooks worked fine with m8 nuts and no grinding or tapping).
End result :
Nice! All the shed envy 🙁
Here’s the 6 bike wall rack
Pretty pleased with it. Quality is good its really solidly made.
Couple of things though, if you are mounting it to a stud wall the studs need to be 32″ apart. Mine were 24″. I got round this be screwing a bit of 2 x 4 to the wall.
The hooks don’t slide, they have a little cap head screw to hold them in place. Its adjustable in that you can space the hooks out however you like and also move them round a bit later but they don’t slide back and forth like a vertical rail could.
Still overall its pretty neat, 6 bikes now hanging in the space of 4
8/10
@richmtb Any chance you could repost the picture, as its not showing now ? I'm about to buy this from amazon, very keen to see what it actually looks like fitted by a STWer first.
I’ve just done this today. Phase 1 of sorting the garage.
They’re Planet X Jobsworth and are £4 for 3 hooks. Had to bend them slightly for the fat bikes. Allow you to swing the bikes to the side to make room for hooking / unhooking the one you want.
I could have put them a bit closer together but I’ve got enough space to not have to make it difficult to access.
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Velo hinges fitted, and they work brilliantly. My 2 mtbs fit lovely together, my dad's ebike not so well but it saves a lot of space.
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Made me a sliding rail and carriages from CEF's cheap unistrut, some 20mm box section, skateboard bearings and 8mm roll pins
Cheap cheap!
After testing the carriage may be better at twice the length.
@wzzzz - that looks ace. are you drilling and tapping as you go or did you buy anything premade?
Does the 20mm box section with the bearing sit in it ok? much wobbling? this is definitely something i'd like to do!
Just chop a bit of the box, drill two 8mm holes and a hole for the hook. Hammer in the roll pin then use a vice to press a bearing on either end.
Because I'm impatient I bought everything by ebay:
£3 for 10 608zz bearings
£4.50 for 10 8mm x 32mm roll pins
£5 for 300mm 20mm box section
£20 for the tamlex strut from CEF
20mm box section plus the two bearings is slightly narrower than the internal of the strut, so it seems to work OK. Not tested in anger yet.
That looks ace, thanks for all the info. Really good
I'm wondering if it's better for my to do the track or the angled hangers as per above. I want to be able to move the bikes around so I can get to them easily. The angled/turning hangers keeps the bikes closer to the wall so more room in the garage, but more wall space needed I guess. The track would potentially let me get more bikes on there, and potentially with a smaller piece of wall, but it would eat into the floor space more
Depends what you value more, floor space or wall space.
I went down a hole of trying to work out if I could mount the unistrut on more unistrut so I could move it towards and away from the wall...
Your idea is ace, and absolutely cracking value. If it doesn't work out in the long term and I change my mind then at least it's not a big investment
@wzzzz - Would you mind posting up how you got on once finished and what changes you would have made? Also, what size unistrut did you buy? I'm guessing the finished trolley is about 32mm wide so presuming you bought the 41mm strut and that runs OK without risk of falling out
