[Closed] You value my privacy - every 10 minutes!

It's REALLY important to them

Oddly, I see about the same number of threads on the subject as I do things to click mentioning my privacy....

"p" is not just for privacy

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

When do the schools break up for Christmas? I think that's when the developers can take break from their homework and fix a few things.

I'll make Tech aware.  What platform / browser?

Still constantly happening with me too. I've had 3 phones in the last few months, all have had exactly the same continual oiouo, it's infuriating. All Android with most up to date Chrome browser version.

All with synchronised settings and plugins?

There's clearly something going on client side which is affecting the writing / reading of cookies, or it'd affect everyone (see also, people complaining of being logged out all the time).  Some sort of adblocker / script blocker / other random 'security' setting or plugin on your phone is playing silly buggers, I'll put money on it.

Classic STW victim blaming

I thought it was just me. Mine pops up every every minute.

If it was a plugin or script it would be affecting more than just this site surely?

Fwiw adblock sorts the privacy popup and kills the rogue script that causes the page to hang up. That's on Firefox on Windows and Android. Safari seems fine for me oddly enough though I am on an ipad 4 (retina) so ios 9 I think?

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so it seems......

twice this week I've had to play whackamole to try and avoid the pop ups when I've been logged out of laptop.

This is the only site I visit that this happens why can everywhere else get it right and yet this place can't?

There’s clearly something going on client side

Are people experiencing this with this site, and this site only?

Yep this site only. It's ridiculous. Any page change and there it is. Happily go p but you complain too.

Pixel2 latest chrome and android.

Are people experiencing this with this site, and this site only?

For me at least yes. Only ever here.

I never have the same issues anywhere else I visit (plenty of other similar forums etc)

(same with the weird spellcheck errors. Only ever happens here.)

Can’t figure how it can be blamed on user settings when the whole rest of the internet seems to be totally ok with my settings.

If by the weird spellcheck errors you mean Swiftkey on Android, then there was a relatively recent update to this which did sort it out for me.

But this is the only errr...respectable... site where I've had page hijacks and popups recently, browsing incognito on Chrome.

Are people experiencing this with this site, and this site only?

Yeah, but somebody, somewhere else may have had the problem on another site, and you can't prove they haven't, so it's not STW's fault. That's what I was told, anyway.

If by the weird spellcheck errors you mean Swiftkey on Android

No it’s ios on iPhone. It just corrects things into really weird words rather than the normal spellcheck type errors. Not a big problem (but only ever happens here)

only ever happens here

I sense there may be a common theme developing, but I can't quite put my finger on it...

Are people experiencing this with this site, and this site only?

Yes, and only since the update, on the same phone I didn't get the issue with previously. Tried the STW cookie killer thing, still the same.

Yep this site only. It’s ridiculous. Any page change and there it is. Happily go p but you complain too.

Pixel2 latest chrome and android.

Snap. Given up browsing on mobile due to this and the not knowing what thread you actually clicked on issue which also only affects this site.

My guess is that it's not the STW site that's causing the popup, its the ads. Lets just say I've never seen it...

Yeah, happening to me too.

Get logged out on each visit to the site, Privacy pop up comes up, have to accept all the bollocks, then log back in again.

After logging back in again it looks like they’ve also changed the screen sizing because now I have a black border which is no doubt obliterated with adverts.

Even I, someone who respects the owners views, am getting cheesed off with the way the site has been built and released, and all the bugs that clearly are still here.. bugs mentioned after the upgrade still haven’t been fixed, and that sodding Privacy Statement I want to ram up someone’s arse.

that sodding Privacy Statement I want to ram up someone’s arse.

I’m not sure they’d value that.

🤣👏👍

Perhaps they might notice it though Drac.....

Still happening to me. Last night and this morning. Every few seconds, then nothing, then it happens again

I preferred it when companies didn't value our privacy...

Twice in the time its taken me to read this thread - now thrice-

Windows phone, only happens here. I am always logged in.

Yep same here, both on ipad and iphone, when logged in or when loged out.

Doesnt really matter on the ipad as i cant read more than a couple of posts before the page decides to re-load so I've given up

All with synchronised settings and plugins?

There’s clearly something going on client side which is affecting the writing / reading of cookies, or it’d affect everyone (see also, people complaining of being logged out all the time).  Some sort of adblocker / script blocker / other random ‘security’ setting or plugin on your phone is playing silly buggers, I’ll put money on it.

Nope. The second of the three phones was a temporary one and I couldn't sync anything with it, the behaviour of the popup was the same. This is the only site I visit that has this issue, I'd equally put money on it being a STW issue, not client side.

same here, on Google Chrome with no plugins ( at work) on a W7 PC.

Every couple of minutes. Cookie killer predictably useless. What with jump about page loads, links doing the hokey cokey and privacy popups this will probably the last attempt I make at reading and posting on this shonktastic site without the protection of ad blocker on the desktop browser.

16+(?)year old susbscription renewal cancelled months ago. Still no reason to resubscribe.

What if they don't actually value our privacy at all?

#makesyouthink

What if they don’t actually value our privacy at all?

#makesyouthink

I think that they might value their own privacy much, much more than ours.

Perhaps that’s why they go on Facebook and tell users to Foxtrot Oscar.

Been an issue on my PC on google chrome for months, in the last couple of days it now affects my mobile chrome browser too, every time I get a new page.

Happens every time I enter a thread or navigate around the forum. It's only this site that's the problem. I'm on latest version of android.

#stwexit

😉

Perhaps that’s why they go on Facebook and tell users to Foxtrot Oscar.

Really? Where? Not on FB myself.

Happening here too on the laptop with chrome, really annoying.

I'm on a Galaxy S9, with Android. Doesn't matter if I'm logged on or out. I get the pop-up with every page change. It's extremely frustrating. Only happens on this site. I did raise a similar thread several weeks ago about this. Nothing has improved, in the interim.

I'm not sure about which is more annoying - the constant privacy reminders or the fact that I cannot make adverts featuring Jim Davidson go away.

On balance, I'll happily click an acknowledgement about my internet privacy every five minutes from now on if that'll help?

Still happening for me too.

And me. Every page change. Desktop version of Chrome for me.

Cougar, you keep saying it's everyone else doing something different and not you. Have you considered that STW may actually not value your privacy?

I've started to get this now too, started today and I've just had it pop up about 5 times in 5 mins!? Please rewind to about 5 years ago when there was no ads (maybe there was but not as intrusive as now) no pages and threads jumping around all over the place and everything was just a lot more fun and interesting. Grrrrrr

Today on my mobile I got this Logged me straight out then the w value your privacy popup. Sony android and chrome

It never happens like this on other sites.

Android and chrome on my phone. Only here...

Logged out. Five popups in five minutes

Managed to log in. Six popups in five minutes despite being logged in

Its a definite flaw on the website

Happens to me as well puts me off using the site

If I'm not getting this does that mean that STW doesn't value my privacy? Why does it value everyone else's? I feel left out.

Happening to me too.

I'm feeling left out too. Honestly cannot remember the last time it valued my privacy on the desktop (Chromium/Linux), the work PC (Chrome/Win10), although I did get one on the phone the other day (Brave browser/Android). All fully updated, both browsers and OS.
All 3 whether logged in or logged out.

If you get the pop up, your client must have not stored the stw_privacy_policy cookie, or it expired, or your browser is not saving cookies, or is deleting all on exit, or...

I delete all cookies on browser exit, except those few sites I whitelist (stw is one of them).

It's a definite flaw on the browser. Apologies for victim blaming.

I've started getting this today, every few minutes. Pages jump around all the time too, that's been happening for ages

Been getting this on both iPhone using safari and Samsung tablet using the Samsung internet app. Have just turned cookies off on the tablet and the privacy pop up thing has stopped. Maybe give that a go

Have just turned cookies off on the tablet and the privacy pop up thing has stopped.

That's very odd. Using Oreo/Chrome I get the pop-up on every page change unless I allow 3rd party cookies. The pop- has Streamamp branding so it looks to me like it's because STW's delegating user privacy agreement to their ad supplier, hence compliance being tracked by a 3rd party cookie.

delegating user privacy agreement to their ad supplier

also why I don't get a problem on the desktop browser where an ad blocker keeps things working. On the phone using native chrome obviously no ad blocking function, so cant use this site on the mobile any more. Not least because the page load jump-about, whack-a-mole link "feature" must do great things for page impressions (yay, ads!) as users end up on 3 or 4 pages by accident before arriving at the thread they actually DO want to read.

It’s a definite flaw on the browser. Apologies for victim blaming.

How come I didn't used to get it, and now I get it, and I only get it on this site?

Andy
Loads of us get this on this site and no others. It's got to be site specific

It’s a definite flaw on the browser. Apologies for victim blaming.

I have never changed my browser settings

They are standard, out of the box settings, and they work with no issues on every other site I visit.

If my settings need changing to be able to use this site, it’s because this site is doing something wrong.

Browser settings my arse 😂 👍

If my settings need changing to be able to use this site, it’s because this site is doing something wrong.

As above, if pushing the button on the pop-up set a site cookie (like on almost every other site I use) there'd be no problem. Because it appears to try to set a 3rd party cookie is where the problem arises, because a lot of people have their browser accept cookies from the site they're visiting but don't want them set by any old 3rd party.

The pop- has Streamamp branding so it looks to me like it’s because STW’s delegating user privacy agreement to their ad supplier, hence compliance being tracked by a 3rd party cookie.

Streamamp is the GDPR plugin, yes.

loads of us don't get this. It's got to be client specific.

If it's any help, I have, in all browsers, on all machines...
cookies accepted
3rd party cookies not accepted
all cookies deleted on browser exit (except STW, which is whitelisted)
pop-ups blocked as standard (except for one other site which is whitelisted)
chrome seems to also have a thing labeled "Ads blocked on sites that show intrusive or misleading ads" - that is disabled (must be a new setting, I'll probably enable it)
edit: oh and Do Not Track is enabled (but I think that does practically eff all)

I have not changed my browser settings for months. I got a single one-off pop-up the other day, clicked OK, and none since.
All browsers keep updating themselves in the background usually, which may have triggered that one-off? no idea. Clearly when they do update there are new privacy features which get a default setting.

We're all using the same site. We see different behaviour. Do you think that the site serves a different code based on user (logged in or out), ignoring the cookies consistently for some and respecting them consistently for others, and for others again respecting them then one day changing its mind, just for a laugh?

Because it appears to try to set a 3rd party cookie is where the problem arises, because a lot of people have their browser accept cookies from the site they’re visiting but don’t want them set by any old 3rd party.

Seems plausible.

If anyone has time during the week to hold a remote session with me (and isn't using Safari), I'd be happy to try and narrow down what's happening.

As with the logout complaints, which is surely a similar issue, STW hasn't been able to replicate the problem (and nor have I) and until that changes it'll probably never be fixed.

Opera Beta Browser solved it for me! Also stops annoying ads...

If it’s any help, I have, in all browsers, on all machines…
cookies accepted
3rd party cookies not accepted

I'm afraid that doesn't help me any. Block 3rd party cookie, pop-ups ahoy. Allow 3rd party cookies, no pop ups. It's the only change I made, so pretty compelling I thought.
Then I set Chrome to refuse ALL cookies, expecting pop-up hell. But no, none at all. So now I'm back to WTF. All on (almost) stock Oreo and boggo Chrome.

I neve used to get this. Now I do on my mobile. Stock settings and unchanged
I don't get it on my desktop which has cookies blocked. My mobile allows cookies

If s site does not work with standard browsers it's an issue with the site

As with the logout complaints, which is surely a similar issue, STW hasn’t been able to replicate the problem (and nor have I) and until that changes it’ll probably never be fixed.

Is disappoint.

If s site does not work with standard browsers it’s an issue with the site

I take your point, but if you'd spent more than eight seconds in webdev you'd know there's no such thing as a "standard browser."

As with the logout complaints, which is surely a similar issue, STW hasn’t been able to replicate the problem (and nor have I) and until that changes it’ll probably never be fixed.

Oh well then that's that problem gone away then

Is disappoint.

What would you suggest instead? Seriously, if you've any pearls of wisdom I'm all ears, cos I'm out of ideas.

Back before the upgrade I once spent days trying to break my browser to a point where I could replicate the "logging out" issue of the day and I couldn't manage it. There is something different between what I'm doing and what those affected are doing - there has to be or we'd all be affected - and I have no idea what that is.

That could be something to do with the browser, settings, plugins, the way you interact with the site, how often you log in / out, how often you restart the device, internet "security" / AV software interfering, a host of other variables. It could be some combination of all of those things, and it could be different causes for different users.

And yes, you can argue that doesn't happen anywhere else, which may or may not be true, but the bottom line is that there's some sort of compatibility issue going on somewhere between the site and some users' configurations / workflows.

What would you suggest instead? Seriously, if you’ve any pearls of wisdom I’m all ears, cos I’m out of ideas.

Maybe if the owners/paid staff sorted it, rather than leaving it to unpaid volunteers it may be better for everyone (you mainly!)

(I am sure they haven’t actually “left it to you” but you seem to be putting more time into sorting it than you should be, and by that I mean “more than none at all”)

but the bottom line is that there’s some sort of compatibility issue going on somewhere between the site and some users’ configurations / workflows.

I have no doubt this is the case, but if this site can’t cope with straight out of the box Apple iPhone, there is something VERY wrong with the setup of the site.

I have no doubt this is the case, but if this site can’t cope with straight out of the box Apple iPhone completely fresh install of Chrome on a fresh install of W10, there is something VERY wrong with the setup of the site.

It may be that there are client-side variations in how and how often this manifests itself, but there is no other ad-riddled website I regularly visit where these kinds of hijacks and pop-ups are an issue.

When the two most active threads on a forum are complaining about the forum...

Same problem here. If I'm on phone or tablet or PC the problem still arises. All three are on different browsers.
The only common denominator is STW. I know that isn't a popular answer to the powers that be. I visit a few different forums for a few different topics and the only one I have trouble with is STW.
Too many indicators that this forum set-up is wrong, but I'm only one of the masses so I'm bound to be wrong.

"They" are always right because "They" hold the power.

I have no doubt this is the case, but if this site can’t cope with straight out of the box Apple iPhone, there is something VERY wrong with the setup of the site.

Which is well weird as having tested it on various apple devices myself I can’t replicate it either.

When the two most active threads on a forum are complaining about the forum…

You can gaurantee the same vultures will be swarming.

Ok so I turned off cookies came back to site and not a single WVYP pop up. But couldn't log in without cookies enabled. Turned them back on and my privacy is again of value.

messing about in a different browser... Firefox for Linux (version 63.0.3-1 apparently), which has in-built tracker blocking features enabled by default...
- accept cookies
- block 3rd party cookies for trackers
- send Do Not Track always
- block all detected trackers always (with the disconnect.me basic block list selected)
everything works exactly as one would expect... you get the pop up once, click ok, surf to your heart's content with no more "we value your privacy" (at least until the expiry date of Jan 2020).

delete 1 cookie from consensu.org and you get the pop up once, click ok, surf to your heart's content with no more "we value your privacy".

delete that cookie again, block all 3rd party cookies (not just those for trackers), then you get in to the endless loop of "we value your privacy".

so that suggests to me that it is client side setting stopping it from saving the cookie that remembers your consent.

however... ublock origin is even better at making things that interrupt surfing on all sites "go away" 😉

Hmm,

Using Google Chrome on Mac (I'm one version behind tip for Chrome) and I've got "Block third-party cookies" enabled. I've had the Privacy popup just once, about a fortnight after everyone began complaining about it, set the settings as I wanted, clicked save and that was it.

It's quite possible that Chrome and Firefox implement the "Block third-party cookies" behaviour differently but I don't remember seeing the Privacy popup on Firefox but I only use it occasionally for this site to check things.