[Closed] You never actually own one

What is it? Some overpriced piece of jewellery for mugs who believe marketing bollocks?

No. Work for someone with a couple and a friend has one (trouble is he now has two sons, so presumably needs to find another 20k* for the other one....).

*they can cost way more than that and, TBH, at that sort of money you're into low end Audemars Piguet. Vacheron still out of reach though...).

Is it man jewellery? (the equivalent of having your bank statement stapled to your wrist).

Is it man jewellery? (the equivalent of having your bank statement stapled to your wrist).

The male equivilent of the Vagazzle?

yeah it's man jewellery.

but with marketing like that, even if i could afford it, i'd never buy one for fear of looking like a gullible sucker who fell for any old crap

For those who hide their inadequacy behind the pretence of being discerning.

You never actually one ...... You just keep making the payments.

It's a good slogan tbh. Because even if you have no idea what it is they sell, you know [i]exactly[/i] what they're all about.

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Bargin second hand price. I'm sure your great, great grand children will have many happy court dates deciding who is supposed to pay it off.

What' are they on about?

Porsche ads and poncy wrist watch ads, they've got the stw average income dialled.

Looks like I was right first time. Go me.

do the ad people (kill yourself now) really think us lot are that gullible?
Someone here must be or we wouldn't be seeing them

Cycling is the new Golf. Obviously Porsche and Patek Philippe marketing people think that cyclists are a demographic with a growing disposable income and want a slice of the action.

To be fair, these watches appreciate in value and are really bought as an investment. There is a guy at work who collects nice watches - he's not rich, just not married, always lived with his parents, no life and nothing else to spend his cash on. He's spent tens of grand on several watches over the years, never wears them, but the entire collection is worth far more than he's spent on it, especially since some are rare limited editions. If you had £5k burning a hole in your pocket right now then investing in a nice watch is probably among your best options and you'd be far better off buying a nice watch and riding a crappy bike than spending it on a top end plastic bike that will be value-less in 24 months time, and probably have the wrong wheel size.

To be fair, these watches appreciate in value and are really bought as an investment.

If you had £5k burning a hole in your pocket right now then investing in a nice watch is probably among your best options and you'd be far better off buying a nice watch and riding a crappy bike

he's not rich, just not married, always lived with his parents, no life and nothing else to spend his cash on.

He doesn't really need an investment he needs some fun.

Read up about De Beers' marketing in the last century [url= http://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/diamond-de-beers-marketing-campaign ]here [/url]- very similar general idea

i've got a 2 year old timex but no descendants to pass it on too, i feel massive #fail

So which advert is it that starts playing the music without any clicks, roll over etc?
(I know, get a p etc etc)

Rocketdog-I'll have your Timex.
Beats the hell out of a £20k penis extension.

Horology is OK in my book, mechanical watches are wonderful little devices. Beautifully handmade watches with multiple complications (extra stuff such as moonphase, tourbillons etc etc) can be amazing bits of engineering which some people appreciate and have the means to enjoy. I am not able to afford one but I don't begrudge those who can. Of course it's almost impossible to justify 40k+ on a watch but it's the same for almost any luxury item, is an old Ferrari "worth" 2m+, yes, if someone wants to pay that then it is.

To be fair, these watches appreciate in value and are really bought as an investment.

I've got a jar of this, Balti not Philippe. It is 2 years out of date.

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I wonder if anyone will be wearing wris****ches in another 30 years time or so.My lad is 20 and him and most if not all his mates do not wear watches as the always have their mobile to hand so I suspect the market for expensive watches could be somewhat limited.

expensive watches are like cufflinks. entirely superseded by a superior product, yet still suggests a certain degree of style. A watch like that is a fairly sound investment. classic watches tend to creep up in value, where as property/hedge funds/white powder is a more volatile market.

I know a couple of people with them. They are very weathly and I suppose that you have to spend your money somewhere but they don't do anything for me. They don't remotely look that expensive in the flesh.

£6,000? On a bike? You could buy a watch for that!

Etc.

Some people spend their money on things that some people don't. And, vice versa.

I've got a jar of this, Balti not Philippe. It is 2 years out of date.

I nearly bought a Patek Nautilus about 10 years ago when they were about £5k. Then I had kids and my finances went into reverse. Now I couldn't even afford a brochure of a Patek and Boodles probably wouldn't even let me in the store... 😥

A Seiko is all I need nowadays.

I wonder if anyone will be wearing wris****ches in another 30 years time or so.My lad is 20 and him and most if not all his mates do not wear watches as the always have their mobile to hand so I suspect the market for expensive watches could be somewhat limited.

It's just a consumer choice. A status display. A way for people lacking in confidence in anything except their bank accounts to state their presence, and allow people who think that is important to recognise them.

At least a really expensive Ferrari does something better than a car costing a tenth the price. This just doesn't.

Sheep were made to be shorn

Beautiful watches and beautiful workmanship. I have a friend who loves watches and has a few but his favourite is breitling. I would love one of those......

any old crap

A way for people lacking in confidence in anything except their bank accounts to state their presence, and allow people who think that is important to recognise them.

A lot of them like the calatrava would at a glance be no different to any other dress watch costing a lot less, to me they suggest a lot more 'confidence' than wearing a gaudy mimic watch like a Nixon / diesel / Boss wrist bauble that's worth bobbins but is pretending to be bling.

A lot of them like the calatrava would at a glance be no different to any other dress watch costing a lot less, to me they suggest a lot more 'confidence' than wearing a gaudy mimic watch like a Nixon / diesel / Boss wrist bauble that's worth bobbins but is pretending to be bling.

I think they both have the same thing in common; a lack of any taste.

I think they both have the same thing in common; a lack of any taste

But with telling the time you have so much choice, a £9.99 taliban Casio, a $250k wrist bauble, asking somebody the time, or your mobile phone.
There's bound be something out there to suit your taste/budget/sensibilities, that said whatever that choice is, it's likely to offend somebody 🙄

I love the hate on here, its a luxury watch, its expensive. Other expensive items are available for purchase, or not, if you prefer.

Times must be hard if they need to advertise on a website where 20 quid for a rear mech is a real decision

http://www.rwsmithwatches.com/bespoke-series/

I hazard a kidney wouldn't get you on the wait list.

robowns - Member
I love the hate on here, its a luxury watch, its expensive. Other expensive items are available for purchase, or not, if you prefer.

Don't you think the money could be better spent on something else? Like starving refugees?

I'd imagine any watch enthusiasts reading this thread might be laughing at the prospect of spending £300 on a seatpost or £1000 on a pair of bike wheels...

Both of which would be worth bugger all in 5 years.

Like starving refugees?

They are too big for my wrist.

If you appreciate fine watchmaking and have the cash then buying one would be a good investment that you could enjoy owning. The ad campaign is a bit annoying though.

yeah it was the ads i was talking about when i said 'any old crap'. they appear to be aimed at complete mugs. i'm sure the watches are as good as any others.

although personally if i had infinite budget for a watch i'd struggle to find a posh new one that i liked. i would take something like this over a patek philippe anyday, any day, any day http://www.matthewbaininc.com/watch-details/378

£1000 on a pair of bike wheels

Don't you think the money could be better spent on something else? Like starving refugees

Don't you think the money could be better spent on something else? Like starving refugees?

H.G. Wells — 'Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.'

So spend money on a bike; it's worth it.

I've never heard anyone say anything close to similar about a **** with a fancy watch

That's possibly the most crass attempt at a humorous post I have seen on STW.

Well done, you have just reinforced my distaste for your personality

Apologies

I do have an awful personality BTW

I think it's wonderful that there are companies about who make such astounding bits of engineering. And I think it's wonderful that there are very wealthy people with zero taste who keep buying them to keep the companies going 😀

More of a ulysses nadine djengis khan type of a guy if I'm honest ..

I find it distasteful that you find someone making a sound point with acerbic humour more distasteful than the fact that people can justify spending 50k on a ****ing wris****ch when that money could be spent on something a LOT more benificial to society, to mankind, to the world. This sort of extravagant expenditure is pretty much indicative of what's wrong with the human race, in my mind.

But; oh well, horses for courses.

Well done, you have just reinforced my distaste for your morality.

How do you know that the people likely to be able to afford a PP aren't also philanthropists who give a higher percentage of their income to charity than you do? See, we can all make generalisations.. 😉

Yet you all watch top gear and get a hard on when they thrash some bling round the track. 🙄
Oh wait it's technology benefitting all mankind and the planet. My mistake, I do apologise.

I own three reasonable watches although I didn't actually buy any of them. 1 was an 18 birthday present and I inherited 2.

The inherited ones i wear and remember my dad by and the 18 present I also enjoy wearing and will pass down to babybgoode when he's old enough.

None are truly daft money, most valuable is probably the Baume Mercier c. £3k but it is a beautiful piece of engineering. The workmanship that goes into a handmade high end watch is astonishing. They're not just knocked up overnight.

Can't say I'll be passing my £8 casio down to him or that I'd wear a g shock passed down to me in memory of my dad.

I fully get watches but doubt I could ever afford / justify huge sums of money on one. Would love a Breguet though and I think there are two types of expensive watch owners. Yes there are those who like to make a statement as to just how wealthy they are but then those who happen to like watches and can either a) afford them or b) acquire them as gifts etc.

Now a Louis Vitton handbag. That's obscene profiteering...

But a £6000 bike will be marginally better than a £1000 bike and much netter than £100 BSO, however a £20 Lorus is a better timekeeper than a £50,000 Patek.

That misses the point completely.

I know a guy who makes a good living out of trading in high end wrist watches. I'm assuming he know all about this brand, I know he's traded stuff far in excess of anything mentioned in this thread. I was talking to him about it once and asked if he wore one. "Err no" was the reply. "I wear a Casio G shock because I can do this with it" ....he takes it of and bangs it on the desk......

But why would you spends upwards of 50gbp on a G-Shock when you can get a Decathlon watch for less than 15? Fools and their money etc.

Do we believe that most people who buy them think about the history and workmanship?

Or do most think that the watches will act as a badge of membership of an elite international club?

Wonder who the ads are aimed at?

Back in the day, there perhaps used to be a genuine point in having a decent Rolex. Those days have gone. The meaning of these watches has changed.

Do we believe that most people who buy them think about the history and workmanship?

But why would you spends upwards of 50gbp on a G-Shock when you can get a Decathlon watch for less than 15? Fools and their money etc.

The quoted prices must be wrong, I've seen loads of them available in Bangkok for around £20 😉

Tbh i thought the title of this thread was a revelation about cars rented on pcp ......

Well when the revolution comes as none of us would be seen with rubbish bombers anymore we will all be using pikes to club with. Not that we are elitist money wasting bike snobs or anything.....

I've got a wrist bauble and I love it. My money my choice. It's not a patek though, my status requirements are not that high 🙄

A few of the buy-to-let brigade on here could afford one, probably a better return too. 😆

I save what's left of my disposable income (after I've donated to various orphanariums and hedgehog sanctuaries) and spend it on what ever I fancy. I, like most people on here work hard for my money and I'll do what ever I want with it. Currently saving for an AP Royal Oak.

For me, high end watches are a celebration of engineering, just find one that fits your style.

That's a dissapointing view LeeW, don't you walk around in a tshirt in even the depths of winter to show off your wrist status. That's totally wrong according to most of the above, shame on you!

People can spend their money on whatever they choose. I don't see the problem in that at all.
If you're "in to" something, watches, bikes, cars, cameras etc it's easy to justify an extravagant purchase, just don't expect anyone else to understand.
Ultimately, why should you give a shit anyway.

But it would appear those who don't have a wrist bauble on here give a shit more than those that do. I also have a hottub but I can't wear that on my wrist which is a shame.

As Spike Milligan said.

"Money can't buy you happiness, but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery.”

Pass me the salt for all these chips! 😆

There's a lot of talk if engineering miracles in these watches as if there is a team of Swiss geniuses sat around a workbench. I read recently that a lot of the high end brand watches use the same movement bought in from a third party. If its so good why do they advertise?

I read recently that a lot of the high end brand watches use the same movement bought in from a third party. If its so good why do they advertise?

I won't take a picture of me driving my 100k Overfinch to the park to ride my 8k Bronson along the canal path whilst reading the time on my 20k Rolex

Hahah

Some do. Omega, Breitling and Tag (I think) have been bought by Swatch and whilst they used to be excellent are now overpriced mass engineered shit.

Rolex, Breguet, Baume Mercies and a host of others still make their own very high quality, bespoke movements.

Like anything Beats Headphones, Apple etc. Some overcharge for what you're buying but some watches are genuine works of art. Have a look at the work that goes in to a Breguet watch face...

Omega, Breitling and Tag

According to Swatch they are:
[url= http://www.swatchgroup.com/en/brands_and_companies/watches_and_jewelry ]http://www.swatchgroup.com/en/brands_and_companies/watches_and_jewelry[/url]

Isn't Tag owned by LVMH?

wrightyson - Member

That's a dissapointing view LeeW, don't you walk around in a tshirt in even the depths of winter to show off your wrist status. That's totally wrong according to most of the above, shame on you!

I'm invariably in short sleeves in the "depths of winter" as it rarely drops below 25degC here.

So is the fact that swatch now own omega that my watch is over a grand dearer than it was 5 years ago?

Eugh, that's Breguet off my wishlist...

That said I suppose Rolls Royce is just BMW and they are exquisite watches...