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The guardian at its best.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/17/audi-rs6-car-review
I'd actually quite like one 😳
There was me thinking it was another VW California thread 🙂
£100k for a house? What a rip off.
Like it or not, we live in an increasingly unequal society. But it's only an Audi...back when I were a lad, a car that cost as much as a house would be something like a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or an Aston Martin saloon, not a tarted up wrister-wagon.
What would you do with a house in Lancashire?
Holiday home?
The perfect ultimate car in my book but that is merely my opinion, other opinions are equally valid 😀
back when I were a lad, a car that cost as much as a house would be something like a Lamborghini
You're not very old then!
In 1990 you could buy a 2 bedroom terraced house in the NE for £20k. Plenty of cars cost more than that.
We bought a motorhome recently.
It's 10 years old and cost about 50% of what we paid for our first house in 1996.
It's 5% of what that same house is worth now.
Not sure if I think the price of motorhomes has become more reasonable or the price of houses has increased out of all proportion - probably the latter!
Compare that car to what a house *should* cost and it looks a lot more expensive...
Combined fuel consumption 29mpg
yeah right 😀
You could by my house twice over.
In 1990 you could buy a 2 bedroom terraced house in the NE for £20k. Plenty of cars cost more than that.
With inflation at 2.9% since 1990 (Source: BOE) you still can.
That said the work car park in Middlesbrough was full of M-sport BMW's, Audi's, even the apprentice had an Astra VXR. The car park in Reading was mostly 8yr old Mondeo's and Focus. So obviously what wasn't spent on the mortgage was spent on other stuff (see also; private schools).
I know I shouldn't be surprised but a plot of land the size of a double garage opposite me sold for £60k recently. I live in a seaside town, not central London.
The person who bought it is negotiating with the bloke who owns the garden behind it for a similar sum so he can then build a house it.
Then you follow that link and think 'I'm living in the wrong place.'
When I was taking about the "NE" I meant the parts that you could actually live in.
Skelton is positively expensive.
Try the cheaper parts of County Durham if want cheap.
[url= http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-43665291.html ]2 bed terrace, £24k[/url]
Houses priced that low are that low for a reason
You can't race a house, but you can live in a car.
When I was taking about the "NE" I meant the parts that you could actually live in.
Houses priced that low are that low for a reason
Discourages out of towners from moving in, they thing something must be wrong :p
I mean, who wouldn't want all this within a short bike ride:
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I know I shouldn't be surprised but a plot of land the size of a double garage opposite me sold for £60k recently. I live in a seaside town
I've just bought 4000sq ft for £4000 🙂
enough for 10 double garages?
thisisnotaspoon - Do you live in Stanley?
100k for a Audi estate ---- good god thats so fffing wrong and the people that buy them ---- well words fail me !
100k for a Audi estate
That's as fast as a "super car" from 20 years ago.
I mean, who wouldn't want all this within a short bike ride
As a weekend holiday destination maybe or to retire to (though it looks like somewhere that has a lot of rain and cold winters) but not to live.
If the property is cheap then it's obviously because the area is blighted by unemployment or a low wage economy, that said a car is rapidly depreciating asset and while property can go down the long term trend is generally up.
I don't like many cars, but I'd love to be able to sling my muddy bike in the back of one of those. Obviously £100K is only to those stupid/rich enough to buy new. Lottery win? straight down the Audi dealer.
Who'd want to live in Lancashire?
Give me the car. NOW!
No I lived in Skelton for a while, now back in Exile in the SE.thisisnotaspoon - Do you live in Stanley?
As a weekend holiday destination maybe or to retire to (though it looks like somewhere that has a lot of rain and cold winters) but not to live.
If the property is cheap then it's obviously because the area is blighted by unemployment or a low wage economy, that said a car is rapidly depreciating asset and while property can go down the long term trend is generally up.
The rest may be true, but it's actually one of the driest parts of the country because it's out of the prevailing wind, ditto temperature, usually a couple of degree's warmer than the west coast.
Unemployment is a problem, but a lot of it is a result of the collapse of the steelworks and the slow demise of ICI leaving large numbers off work and unskilled for other work, and a cascade effect form that is a lack of opportunities and motivation in some suburbs where kids grow up in families where no ones had a career since they were born. Conversely more 'middle class' professions are the same as anywhere else in the country, with the benefit of having more disposable income through not having a huge mortgage, and a national park on your doorstep (and 5 withing 90 minutes).
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Ah it's a daft amount, they're funny things - I have mate with the 'old' RS6 estate, he LOVES it, in fact I knew a lot of people who went in for these mega power cars - I think there's an element of 'compensation' going on.
Yeah they're "as fast as a super car from 20 years ago" - if you think super cars are about speed, you've never met anyone who owns one - I have, lots of them, I used sell finance to people to buy them.
They're all different (owners), but as a rule of thumb most buy them because they've always wanted one, and it's fair to say, quiet a few are a little disappointed to have 'met their hero' because in the real world, with traffic and speed bumps and limits there's very little that a Ferrari can do that a Fiesta can't, but there's quite a bit a Fiesta can do, that a Ferrari can't, be a 'car' for one - because a Ferrari isn't really a car in the traditional sense.
Most spend their time mooching about at 8mph looking all fancy, and making growlly noises. A Ferrari can do that, a blingly Audi Estate, nah it's just another Audi estate only with fancy wheels in the posing stakes.
For the few who actually try to use the speed, stick that Audi on a track and it's on-paper performance will count for about sod all, someone with £20ks worth of Caterham or Atom will come along and make it look boring, so will that 20 year old Super Car, but really no one will. I'm sure some will think it will cross Continents with ease - yeah probably, but the 2 litre diesel will too, and won't need to stop every 200 miles to refuel and without 'racing seats' massive wheels and overly firm suspension it'll be a lot easier on the driver. If you wanted to have one of those Top Gear style races and take the piss with the speed limits - the 3.0 diesel would destroy it on range alone.
When it boils down to it, someone who really wants to 'drive' would have something else, someone who really wants to cover great distances quickly would have something else - no this is the logical conclusion to more-is-more. It's the "get out of my way" in the rear view mirror car of choice, or the "I've got more than you" choice, that's the 2016 version of the medieval man walking around carrying a huge sword that is too long to swing in town and too heavy to last the length of battle out of it. it's power is entirely hypothetical.
in Exile in the SE
So am I.
Looking at moving back North, I work from home and overseas, so in theory I can live anywhere.
The problem I have found is that the "really nice" parts of the North East, are not much cheaper than a lot of the South East. It's only about 20% cheaper up North. There used to be a much larger difference.
I really like Lancashire, and the people up there, but RS6 every time!
[url= http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Watches/Between/10000/and/1000000/InStock?sort=dateofentry%20desc&&fq_price=95400-100000 ]Should proably get a watch to go with it....[/url]
The problem I have found is that the "really nice" parts of the North East, are not much cheaper than a lot of the South East. It's only about 20% cheaper up North. There used to be a much larger difference.
It is an odd place, around Skelton and the northern boundary of the NYM in general terraced houses are £35-£55k, as much depending on condition as location. It then goes up failry steadily through nicer villages and 3 and 4 bed houses to £200-250k. Then it just goes exponential. Often you look and there's nothing £250-£400k, but then there's £750-£1million, £2million houses. It's reflective of the socioeconomic makeup of the area, the terraced houses are the low wages and unemployed, the middle band are for the middle class, and then there's a band of houses for the managers and footballers. There isn't the same spectrum of house prices you get elsewhere as you're either earning decent money, or you're not.
But you have to compare like with like. Yes a nice middle-class house might be £430k in Reading and in Guisborough, but:
[url= http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-44079339.html ]Pub/Hotel/B&B in Guisborough (6 bedroom, public bar and dining room and your own accomodation)[/url]
[url= http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-54490138.html ]semi/link detached 4 bed in Reading[/url]
votchy - Member
The perfect ultimate car in my book but that is merely my opinion, other opinions are equally valid
This.
Didn't we do this on the fast wagon thread ? Basically-an opinion is just that, neither right nor wrong.
Top speed 189mph
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It's a lot of money for "just a car" sure, but one man's meat is another man's pornography. How much have you lot all spent on pushbikes?
Yep. all subjective. I can't understand how the reviewer gave it a 9/10 for 'cool' but if he thinks it is who am I to argue. I think its about as cool as my Ford Grand Tourneo - ie not in the slightest.
P-Jay nailed it.
When you look at the old RS6's on Autotrader, they all seem to have had on average 1 owner per year, which tells a story i think
[quote="maccruiskeen"]I've just bought 4000sq ft for £4000
enough for 10 double garages?
How much? Mind bendingly expensive init 8O. £60k is even mentaller.
Some plots came up a couple of km from us, varied from £2800-8000 depending on what was done to it. Cleared of trees, leveled, services (electric and fibre) and so on.
All between 2000 and 3000sqm.
Unfortunately you'd not be able to put 10 double garages on it.
Limited to 150sqm footprint of house and 50sqm of outbuildings.
And this is all less than 10 minutes from the motorway and under an hour to the centre of Göteborg, in the rush hour.
All the plots have sold (14 of them IIRC) and only one has got a house on it so far. The rest appear to be going up as self builds, one plank at a time. Thats taken about 5 years.........
Go another 10km away from the motorway it's probably not even worth selling the land, as they can make more out of selling the wood.
Wonder if you get working indicators for your hundred grand.....
Unfortunately you'd not be able to put 10 double garages on it.
Limited to 150sqm footprint of house and 50sqm of outbuildings.
Mine's all brownfield so can build on then whole site if I want.
Just the small matter of conducting an exorcism first
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Thats going to need a really big torch and waders......
Chap who lives near me has just bought one and its flippin lovely. With the optional Ceramic brakes I think it was a fair bit over the 100k, but it sounds mega. He does have a rubbish bike though....
I've got an M6 (the older V10 version), when it works its (in my opinion) the bee's doo-dahs. However, it doesn't work very often and costs a fortune to fix. It also doesn't have the ability to carry a bike (no folding rear seats and carbon roof means no roof rack). It also does 9mpg on a good day, less if you give it some hammer. All of which is why I also have a derv Golf, which is rubbish and breaks more than the BMW....
You can buy a house in Lancashire for under 10 grand, so it's not saying much...
Fella up from me has a 6 and a 3. Gorgeous machines but utterly nuts to run. I had one for 2 weeks while my rs4 was being repaired and while beautiful and fast it was heavy, didn't handle that well and drank like a very dry man in the desert reaching an oasis, BP got to know me well. I'd have one though ! Previous model you have to take engine out to replace plugs FFs !
P-Jay nailed it.
When you look at the old RS6's on Autotrader, they all seem to have had on average 1 owner per year, which tells a story i think
Funny, I thought P-Jay couldn't have been further from the truth of the matter. People buy RS6's and RS4's because they look like normal cars and don't want to be judged driving Ferraris etc. Its below the radar supercar performance.
Top speed 189mph
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Well, if ever there was a safe place to drive like a maniac....there it is! Drive past the first camera, pull over for ten mins and the world is your oyster! Can't imagine the old Bill will be sitting in the middle.
I'd own one in a heartbeat if I had that sort of affordability.
I'd own one in a heartbeat if I had that sort of affordability.
A house in Lancashire? Me too. Couldn't give a shit about the car though.
I think they're excellent
Generally only bought by petrolheads rather than posers, not noticed by the average joe, sound glorious, and can be driven as your only car
If I had enough money to justify it I've have one. If I had enough money to cover anything going wrong in a 2nd hand one I'd have a second hand one (or an E63 or M5)
When considering the running costs, let's be fair. A house costs a lot to run, and you can sleep in the boot of the RS6.
I probably wouldn't buy one (not unless I had silly amounts of money) but most of the downsides aren't really. Poor fuel economy - well OK I'll cycle places more (And let's be fair, the quoted fuel economy is pretty impressive for a car with that level of performance - you'd be looking at a similar ball park figure out of a camper van and no one would judge you as an earth murderer for that). Leather seats and frightened of spilling things on them - much as I wouldn't choose leather (vegetarian) I had a car with full leather, and child vomit and food came out of it no problem, unlike cloth interiors where I have to apply my don't give a crap filter.
In terms of it not handling well on track, fine, it won't be as nice as a lightweight sports car on track. It'll be a lot more practical on the road though. And you can exercise your children's neck muscles.
I'd own one in a heartbeat if I had that sort of affordability.
I couldn't afford you.
If I had the cash I would buy one, and then spend an extra £5k on the Litchfield performance pack to take it to 750bhp.
Don't ask me to explain why, because I cant, I just would!
Maybe that's a better question,
If you had £100k to spend on a car, which car would you buy instead? I mean, it's nice enough and all, but is that the best spend? Dunno as it'd be my first choice.
100k to spend on a car? A vito for the bikes and a nissan gtr for the making progress, should come to about 100k
CougarMaybe that's a better question,
If you had £100k to spend on a car, which car would you buy instead? I mean, it's nice enough and all, but is that the best spend? Dunno as it'd be my first choice.
Not a lot. There's the AMG CLS Shooting Brake, Jag XF RS and Porsche are bringing out the Panmera Superturismo but that's about it. Audi have the super estate thing covered. The new M5 is lovely but no estate version yet.
The whole [i]"you could buy a house for that"[/i] argument is a bit redundant when the clock option in a Bentley Bentayga is £115,000. So if you've got £275,000 to fritter you could buy a Bentley and an RS6, or a Bentley with optional solid gold clock. And that's just chump change compared to the upper end of the Bugatti, Ferrari, McLaren, RR catalogue.
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I agree. But then (funnily enough), people own/want/need different things for different reasons, I believe.
How many bikes can you chuck in the back of a (hideous) [i]nissan gtr[/i]?
It's a lot of money for "just a car" sure, but one man's meat is another man's pornography. How much have you lot all spent on pushbikes?
Total, since 1991: £100, £400, £400, £700, £650, £650, £200. So, about £3k. Minus about £300 from selling one, plus about £300 above the insurance payout replacing one that was nicked.
Slightly surprised it was that much; it's £700 more than our current car cost us 3 years ago 🙂
I'd be wanting at least an 8 figure balance on my current account before buying a car at that sort of price.
So I'd probably be able to buy Lancashire.
If you had £100k to spend on a car, which car would you buy instead?
A 2nd hand van for bikes and family duties. And then if pushed to get something quick, then would 90k get me an old race-something or other car, race license, tyres, fuel and spares for a year?
Pointless wrapping up speed and functionality in one. I'd want to race, not pose/ stealth pose.
I'd be wanting at least an 8 figure balance on my current account before buying a car at that sort of price.
remember chatting to a bloke (kid, really) in the pub once who was bragging about his £100k watch. He certainly wasn't worth 8 figures, and probably not all that far above 7.
Commenting later to a friend that I'd want to be worth a sight more than this guy before I spent 100k on a watch, the friend retorted that he'd want to be a philanthropist before he did.... Fair point...
In answering my own question - less than I imagined:
http://www.graduates.org.uk/info.asp?s=startRacing
So no way would I want an expensive 'thing' of a car when there's some proper fun to be had in this world, if cars were to float my boat.
Wait around 3 years and one of these could be had for £50k, or you could buy a 2-3 year old RS4 for £30k, roughly the same price as a reasonably species up new Mondeo.
Having only last week watched someone trying to get their Lamborghini over a series of speed bumps (in the sort of place in Lancashire where you could buy the alternative house) I'd say that this would be of considerably more use to you than one of them. Unless you live in Monaco.
It really was quite hilarious. Well... all the kids who were pointing at him and laughing certainly seemed to think so 🙂
A £100K car says to me about the owner - 'I could have bought a really nice car for £50K and done some real good with the other £50K instead. But I'm a rich flash **** so I didn't'.
If you had £100k to spend on a car, which car would you buy instead?
Can I cheat and have 2 for my money? Or even 3. A nice boring comfy shopper/commuter with disposable doors for the supermarket car park and alloys because my wife will also drive it; a dirty old landy for bikes, tip runs and boys adventures; and a stupidly light and small silly thing for the weekends (elise/caterham/atom). Nothing on my list is great for crossing continents.......but I don't cross continents as a rule.
A £100K car says to me about the owner - 'I could have bought a really nice car for £50K and done some real good with the other £50K instead. But I'm a rich flash **** so I didn't'.
Or I could have spent a million quid on a car but I'm from yorkshire.
km79A £100K car says to me about the owner - 'I could have bought a really nice car for £50K and done some real good with the other £50K instead. But I'm a rich flash * so I didn't'.
Yeah. *s. Come to think of it, you can get a perfectly good car for £500 so anyone who spends more than that is a rich flash ****. Even that's a bit flash when you can get an excellent mountain bike for £70 from Tesco.
Houses too are obnoxious, ostentatious displays of wealth. A caravan should suffice for most people. If you've spent £100,000 on a house, when you could have spent £10,000 on a caravan and done some real good with the £90,000 you are subhuman scum.
Houses too are obnoxious, ostentatious displays of wealth.
For a growing number of people, yes I agree.
[quote="Doris5000"]remember chatting to a bloke (kid, really) in the pub once who was bragging about his £100k watch. He certainly wasn't worth 8 figures, and probably not all that far above 7.So just spent a significant percentage of his net worth on a watch. Hope it was extremely exclusive and likely to appreciate.
Funnily enough, thats what our "lottery win" plans look like these days.Commenting later to a friend that I'd want to be worth a sight more than this guy before I spent 100k on a watch, the friend retorted that he'd want to be a philanthropist before he did.... Fair point...
Pah my dad owns a motorbike worth more than that 8) I think Pjay hits the nail on the head, Audi RS's bought by people who think they are into cars and watch too many top gear episodes on dave
Can someone explain the pretty colours on the map of the UK on the previous page please ( a cry for help from a div )
My old boss has an RS4, fast, quiet till its floored, comfy, safe , thirsty.
A £100K car says to me about the owner - 'I could have bought a really nice car for £50K and done some real good with the other £50K instead. But I'm a rich flash **** so I didn't'.
What if he's already spent 10x that giving to charity? Should people with nice cars/houses/bikes display their charitable donations in the window?
What car can bill gates drive?
Can someone explain the pretty colours on the map of the UK on the previous page please
The map shows annual rainfall in mm I think.
What if he's already spent 10x that giving to charity?
Sexist!
What car can bill gates drive?
Anything he likes but I will still think he is a rich flash ****.
Each to their own but it wouldn't be for me (first world problem alert) since it's isn't easy to fit or insure one with a towbar (no bike rack on the back 🙁 ).
I don't particularly see what the issue with this form of spending compared to spending huge amounts on a home or even more so second home. I guess it's just more visible consumption. I'd also agree that this country is growing more disequal which will be a huge issue for generations.
Audi RS's bought by people who think they are into cars and watch too many top gear episodes on dave
Or how about by people who need a car to cart around the family, dog and a couple of mountain bikes but would also like to drive something thats fast, rare and capable (talking about the RS Avants here). Granted for the same money they could buy a Range Rover but perhaps they like to drive the thing and hate the whole blingy footballers wives image that buying an SUV entails.
I reckon there are people who spend as much on a bike as I do on a car. Who cares? Better to spend it and keep someone in employment than stick it under the pillow.
Audi RS's bought by people who think they are into cars and watch too many top gear episodes on dave
😀 yes; the "cool dads"
There'd always be one lad at school who'd have a "cool dad" - you know the sort; matching Audi jacket and is unable to drive a car without wearing a pair of Oakleys. Utter cretins.