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Sorry to sound a bit pretentious and middle class but I’m a bit annoyed and in a sulk. What is that you can’t really have nice things, becuase someone always wants to steal it, damage it, has no respect for it re accidental & careless damage (e.g. car doors in supermarket car parks).
Apparantly the latest growth crime is nicking peoples watches from airport security trays, something I find weird due to being in a highly secure area, but also - with an upcoming holiday - kinda ruining the idea of taking something decent with me.
However, about a 2 miles away there’s a guy in a council house with an Aston Martin parked in the drive, no one touches is ?♂️
Just becuase weve obtained things of value, now we can only wear/use/display things behind closed doors.
Time to downgrade to a terraced house, buy a G shock from eBay and some Primark jeans 🙁
Fancy working all this years to afford a life you can’t live. ??
However, about a 2 miles away there’s a guy in a council house with an Aston Martin parked in the drive, no one touches is
#SnobberyAintDead
Maybe have a read of The Spirit Level
In short - inequality is bad for everyone. The more you increase the divide between the haves and have-nots the more the haves suffer from the harms this places on the have-nots.
Crime, sickness, depression, suicide, taxes - they all increase in line with rising division - but non of those things care which side of divide you are on.
In the UK over the last decade or so we've masked a lack of growth by pointedly making the poor poorer in order to create an illusion for the rich so that they feel richer. So we're paying the social cost for that division without the actual increase in wealth.
However, about a 2 miles away there’s a guy in a council house with an Aston Martin parked in the drive,
#SnobberyAintDead
Thats just an example of 'opportunity cost'. Choosing one thing 'costs' you the other things you could have had. I could have an Aston Martin parked outside my house - but I spent the money on a house instead.
Nowt wrong with a G Shock!
Lots of crime happens in lots of places but the chances of it affecting you/me as an individual is relatively low. I don't flaunt the nice things I own but even with my anxiety, I don't worry about taking them out and using them when I want. If the worst happens, they are insured.
If you are daft enough to leave a "nice watch" lying in a tray in full view then walking away...
Based on the OP, perhaps leave it at home, and remove one more stress factor?
Also another hint... You can get cheaper then G-Shocks... And guess what... They still tell the time.
kinda ruining the idea of taking something decent with me.
can you put it in your suitcase until you arrive?
However, about a 2 miles away there’s a guy in a council house with an Aston Martin parked in the drive, no one touches is ?
come on dude, this kind of comment is normally beneath you. you're not really like that
..and another thing. You are going on holiday. That is a nice thing and something that is out of reach of reality for a huge section of society. So complaining about the risk of of nice watch being stolen on your way to your nice holiday (despite there being very easy ways to mitigate the risk of theft) isn't a great look.
This isn’t just about watches, sometimes life just feels a bit damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
I had a stunning MTb ride yesterday, then -with every one out at the theatre and an after noon of a few beers watching the Olympic road cycling - came home to a fountain of water spurting out the side of the house. Turns out it was a split washer in the outside tap which I managed to fix, but the drama cost me a settled afternoon.
Sorry but I’m grumbling and in a bit of a funk which is playing on my intolerance of uncertainty perfectionist personality. ?
Just put your watch in a bag before you get to security and watch the bag going through. No need to have watch sitting on display in a open tray. Its not difficult.
Did this from the day they introduced it (I use to travel, a LOT, and all over the world).
No brainer, same with phone etc - in fact everything goes into my carry-on as I stand in the queue.
came home to a fountain of water spurting out the side of the house. Turns out it was a split washer in the outside tap which I managed to fix, but the drama cost me a settled afternoon.
Better than having to deal with it in January standing in the rain at zero degrees. #glasshalffull
isn’t a great look.
Apologies, I needed to moan. I appreciate it’s selfish.
Surely the answer is F-91W?
Surely the answer is to travel first class?
Inside my private jet it's a classless society - very equitable. Although someone still has to sit by the toilet door, non of us are very far from it wherever we sit.
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Lol, thanks for clarifying. I wonder if there is some hidden work around to get them worrying?
Inside my private jet it’s a classless society – very equitable. Although someone still has to sit by the toilet door, non of us are very far from it wherever we sit.
You obviously need a bigger jet.
Regular air traveller and fellow watch fan....I just put all my valuables in to my carry on that gets locked. I also have an airtag in the carry on.
I have to admit before I was flying as regularly as I do, I would just empty everything out into trays and would be thinking how easy it would be for someone to swipe my watch or wallet. But now I've worked out a routine, its fairly secure and also a smoother process for the security team.
You can get cheaper then G-Shocks… And guess what… They still tell the time
Casio A700! Love mine
You obviously need a bigger jet.
Or a smaller one without a toilet 🙂
A friend of mine has an old pal whose surprisingly humble sounding business (recycling pallets) has made him really quite surprisingly wealthy - so my pal gets to travel around on his private jet. As a result there are airports all around Europe where he's landed and taken off again pretty much just so someone can on the plane have a wee.
Turns out it was a split washer in the outside tap which I managed to fix, but the drama cost me a settled afternoon.
Hope you're not going on holiday to East Ukraine!
As a result there are airports all around Europe where he’s landed and taken off again pretty much just so someone can on the plane have a wee.
Can we start a 'this is why we can't have a nice planet' thread? 😉
Can we start a ‘this is why we can’t have a nice planet’ thread? 😉
See - thats what I said to him - you should hang out with me, and sit by the toilet. Much better for the planet.
I had not heard of this type of crime and TBH it surprises me. The perp will surely be captured on CCTV and will be airside so unable to leave easily until their flight departs so surely reasonably easy to catch.
I think "having nice things" has always been a risk. About a decade ago at one of my local ridings spots there was a notorious car that followed riders back to their homes. I don't think I was ever followed but modified the route back to my house to include alleyways where a car could not go.
I know the news is depressing but at least the weather is decent and some of the Olympics is compelling - bright side and all that 🙂
Is the watch thing actually a thing or another urban legend?
I just leave mine on, tbh security can seem to tell it’s just a watch.
I leave my £79 Garmin Solar on as it doesn't seem to set off the alarms but my other watch does.
Yes it's a sulk but i do agree with the sentiment. It makes you feel like not bothering to work hard sometimes when its so easy to have your stuff taken but really those are all just material goods, the real things like owning a home, saving a good pension, having job security, looking after your health can't be stolen from you.
the real things like owning a home, saving a good pension, having job security, looking after your health can’t be stolen from you.
This is the attitude I’ve come to have too. Also as a self employed person, IP is an asset that noone can steal (relatively speaking)
Flew out of Manchester recently and I'm sure it was a case of all small electronics into your carry on.
But I'd just left my watch on.
Mate got stopped and bag swabbed for the two saline tubes in his first aid kit.
i fly pretty regularly and have never removed my watch at security, and never been asked to.
back in the day I used to DJ and would occasionally smuggle the odd pill into the club in my record bag. I wasn't a big caner, and (almost) never took drugs when working, but, y'know.
Then I started getting gigs overseas and on one flight, they took a record out of my bag and swabbed it. Eek! Nothing bad happened but it put the shits up me. I made sure to keep any rugs well away from my tunes in future! A friend even went as far as to buy a brand new record bag specifically for a gig in Dubai, just to be absolutely sure...
i fly pretty regularly and have never removed my watch at security, and never been asked to.
Surely only two possible explanations:
- your watch is not as bling as the OP's
- the security staff are actually the ones on the take and they target watches they like
(these may not be mutually exclusive)
Weird that the OP couldn't just put it in a bag / jacket pocket or round the handle or strap of a bag so it was not easy pickings... but then its probably not actually a very common theft, and social media tell you its some new crisis.
I’ve never taken a watch off going through any security, I have triggered the alarm a couple of times at concert venues and assumed it was steel toecaps in boots I was wearing, or my keys, never ever considered it was my watch, often a steel dive watch.
Now I tend to wear a Casio GA-B2100 ‘CasiOak’; great watch, I’ve got a basic black one and a yellow Tough Solar, which has Bluetooth and I can sync it to a Casio app that lets me change settings, something I struggle with using the buttons.
I hate the plastic straps, they literally bring me out in an itchy rash, but I’ve got really comfortable woven stretch straps fitted and I barely notice I’m wearing them.
On the subject of can’t have nice things, it’s especially annoying when it’s the people that the nice things are given to set out to destroy the place the nice things are, for example…
https://www.thecooldown.com/outdoors/badger-sett-vandalism-trees-forest-wildlife-nature/
Surely the only people who could nick it are:
1 -Other travellers, going through security just ahead or after you
2 -Security staff.
1 must be an incredibly expensive and time consuming way of potentially nicking nice watches.
2 more likely but still seems not too plausible. They are vetted and work airside, so they must be subject to considerable scrutiny themselves when arriving and leaving work.
Don't be one of those people who puts everything in the tray...
Whilst waiting in the line for security take everything off/out of your pockets and stuff it in your bag. Take liquids/laptops out at the same time. Then drop your bag etc in the tray and walk right through. If everyone did this then the airports would function much better. But no, Marjorie on her once a year Jet2 to Benidorm has to unpack at the xray machines and holds everyone up
Does anyone have any evidence yet that this isn't just an urban legend/random facebook lie?
Think yerself lucky OP, I'm currently out in the Alps and only managed 2.5 runs down the mountain this morning as my son came off and hurt his ankle, selfish bleedah, I was bloody flying on that run as well!
Plus his elbow pads were too small for him so I went into the shop to get him some more and the only ones they had were 79 euros!!....
Pah!!
There’s quite a few threads in various places such as Reddit, TZ forums and YouTube videos about bad experiences. Be warned though, this is a rabbit hole I went down.
And, I did have my arm grabbed once for a random sturdy looking fella to look at my Tag.
Anyway, on the watch front I’m taking 2 seikos - a Samurai as a daily and a 5kx with a BoR bracelet as an evening / alternate.
The Ralph Lauren suits, Jimmy Choo’s and Tiffany jewellery is swapped for River Island and a pair or worn Birkenstocks…
Turns out it was a split washer in the outside tap
Just be glad it wasn't a split washer on the khazi of mackruiskeen's private jet, that would have ruined everyone's afternoon, not just the person near the bog door.
Does anyone have any evidence yet that this isn’t just an urban legend/random facebook lie?
It certainly sounds like it, doesn't it. "Apparantly the latest..." Apparent to whom? When? Where?
In the absence of absolutely anyone claiming that it actually happened to them, let alone numerous accounts which would make it "the latest" anything rather than a one-off incident, I'd file this under "shit that didn't happen so hard that it unhappened shit that did" and move on.
Just be glad it wasn’t a split washer on the khazi of mackruiskeen’s private jet
look, just because it’s happened several times before doesn’t mean it’s definitely going to happen again. It’ll probably be fine
(which is also Boeing’s motto I believe)
Thats just an example of ‘opportunity cost’. Choosing one thing ‘costs’ you the other things you could have had. I could have an Aston Martin parked outside my house – but I spent the money on a house instead.
I've argued this for years but never had a name for it. Outrage erupting because the dole dossers next door have a flat-screen TV, conveniently ignoring the fact that a) that's all they have of any value and b) flat screen as opposed to what, I haven't seen a CRT outside of a retro gaming arcade in decades.
Or, whining about the bloke sat outside ASDA with a dog on a string, drinking a can of warm Stella. If all I had to my name was some string and a dog I'd probably want a drink myself. As comedian Steve Hughes said, "people tell me 'you shouldn't give them money, they'll only spend it on drink and drugs'... pff, what do you think I was going to spend it on?"
My googling suggests that has happened at least once!
NB the victim forgot about the watch and walked off leaving it in the tray
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/east-midlands-airport-security-guard-4552885.amp
I’d say if the biggest worry in your life is having your posh watch stolen whilst going on holiday then rejoice, your life is going brilliantly!!!
In the absence of absolutely anyone claiming that it actually happened to them, let alone numerous accounts which would make it “the latest” anything rather than a one-off incident, I’d file this under “shit that didn’t happen so hard that it unhappened shit that did” and move on.
That’s a trite and uneducated answer. Can’t you use Google? (Insert Rolling eyes emoji here)
Where do you put your designer Italian sunglasses that you bought after acquiring an Alfa Romeo when going through airport security?
Been happening for years, cash in wallets also fair game. Put your valuables in your bag in a nice zipped pocket Be aware of your surroundings and security staff. Check them as soon as it comes through before walking off. No reason to sulk.
That’s a trite and uneducated answer. Can’t you use Google? (Insert Rolling eyes emoji here)
Sure I can. I used it to look up 'burden of proof' and confirmed that "no it isn't" is sufficient an answer to rebuke wholly unsubstantiated claims. I could of course attempt to research your claims, but seeing as you couldn't be arsed I fail to see why anyone else should waste their time doing it for you.
Didn't happen. If it did, it was a one-off. Prove me wrong.
Been happening for years,
You too.
I am struggling to work out if this thread is genuine or a troll way above my social class.
This is why I like TSA Pre-check. I can keep my cheap-as-shit Casio watch and my shoes on with impunity.
NB the victim forgot about the watch and walked off leaving it in the tray
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/east-midlands-airport-security-guard-4552885.amp
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Not what the story says. It says was left in an envelope on a bus and found by another passenger who handed it to the security staff (who then flogged it). It was described at court as being unsophisticated - using her own name, waiting for a valuation to come back etc. That doesn't sound like this is something the staff have well organised as a "racket" to monetise careless passengers. I'm sure people will leave stuff in trays and probably some of that does not get reported as "lost property", although as this case shows its a high risk strategy. Some people may even claim it was stolen rather than admit they were careless enough to lose it.
Time to downgrade to a terraced house, buy a G shock from eBay and some Primark jeans
I resemble that comment.
Although it's a 1970's grey rendered semi, cheap IronMan and Primark jeans.
so er how on earth does the thief get away with this? you stand there, put watch in tray. 2 possibly 3 staff have the ability to pilfer it. then about 60 seconds later you go to put on your watch from a now empty tray....all the while there is loads of cctv presumably with more security watching jncase of trouble.
sounds like bs.
we were however scammed by staff at cancoon airport mexico, along with the tu rep when most of the flights suitcases seemed to have gained several kilos and incurred extra fines. considering we flee out with a whole bunch of suncream and loads of cheap cloths to bin whilst we were out there trekking i find it hard to believe our cases were heavier. plus i cant bicep curl over 20kg so i know if the case is heavy....s
Gah, now the quote is broken. 🙁
couldn’t be arsed
Aside from the fact I named two forums and a social media channel that used?
Prove me wrong.
I can’t be arsed.
Where do you put your designer Italian sunglasses that you bought after acquiring an Alfa Romeo when going through airport security?
Well, they got stolen.
I am struggling to work out if this thread is genuine or a troll way above my social class.
Very much not, it was intended as a slightly sigh laden whinge about the element of life that treats others possessions with disregard, didn’t you get a van mirror smashed off or similar once, and the bugger didn’t stop? That sort of thing.
Instead it’s turning into perhaps the inevitable character assassination, give the thread time and it’ll all be evidenced to be Kier Starmers fault.
a lot of folk can’t afford a mortgage on a terraced house or a G-Shock watch. They can probably afford Primark jeans though. I’d wager a lot of them work a damned sight harder too. Hard work has and will never equal good pay. Normally the opposite!
Any way, enjoy your holiday OP.
#1stworldproblems
MrsRNP took 18 under privileged kids/families away for a long weekend who wouldn't have had a holiday otherwise. She was able to do that because we didn't bother buying bejewelled peacocks but paid the mortgage off instead.
The local school has stopped doing a september first day back 'what did you do in your holidays' because a growing number don't/can't afford to go anywhere. But yeah put the ****ing watch in your bag before you get to x-ray.
What you said is true. But the start of the story is
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last week was told how the watch had gone missing on March 6, after its owner forgot to pick it up after going through a metal detector before a flight.
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Anyway hardly a crime that will be easy to repeat
was intended as a slightly sigh laden whinge
Bit like everything you put on here then.
trying to work out if I have any empathy for the middle class underdog or not <some kind of emoji here oooh I left the grill on
odd place this. You come on to muse about the disrespect of property in life and are made out to be some middle class **** by that same people that bang on for ages about pizza ovens, electric cars and air fryers.
But I guess today’s my day to get in a kick in the ribs eh? **** him and his holiday, he doesn’t work hard and hadn’t earned it I’ll assume, despite the fact I don’t know him at all, theres assumed to be no empathy, philanthropy or care for the starving in Kryton either. He doesn’t give a toss to do anything for his local schools or community that one, what a ****er. well I’ll assume all that because it must be correct. Just like Flasheart and his £1000 slippers or Renton and his Wheelie bin I’ll look past anything else to to ensure he gets some just deserts as he doesn’t deserve to be amongst us and hopefully we’ll eventually hound him off the forum.
I want people to admire my choice of watch - no not you, you look a bit dodgy.
It's quite the quandary, isn't it?
Kryton, I recommend you promptly leave the thread and head for the haven of (almost always) positivity that is the watch thread you instigated. You've definitely stirred up the stw offence athletes in this one.
And try not to take it all so seriously!
And, I did have my arm grabbed once for a random sturdy looking fella to look at my Tag.
Are you in fact a sheep or cow and the sturdy man a farmer?
Time to downgrade to a terraced house, buy a G shock from eBay and some Primark jeans
Its nowt to do with your holiday or trinkets - for some a terraced house, G shock and Primark jeans would be an absolute luxury and it's thats riled me.
RNP I didn’t mean it to be a slight. Nothing I say here and now will change your perception of its intention I suspect so I’ll leave it be.
Most of us know where you are coming from.
Unfortunately this place has become as toxic as Twitter. Usual posters trying to score points. People used to get temp bans - seems anything goes now.
It used to be a fun forum but I can’t remember the last time a thread made me laugh. EDL threads on a Friday night were legendary - wouldn’t work now as someone would pick you up on the carbon footprint of your Australian Red. Lucky if a thread lasts a page turns against the OP.
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve typed something to think “nah, **** it”.
Same as it's always been, you can have nice things, but you have to look after them properly, same as bikes, couldn't take my little one to the cinema on the bikes like she wanted, as no way we'd leave niceish bikes out for 2 hours in the open.
I ****ing hate scum-ery and scroatery on all levels - I'm of high moral and social fibre (check my Spring Clean thread for evidence of this!) and work blue collar hard for what I have. I absolutely echo your sentiments I just think it could have been approached with a different tact. I'm probably over sensitive to it having spent yesterday with MrsRNP and her community kitchen patrons who don't have a pot to piss in but had a brilliant weekend away and were so full of joy and happiness when I was driving them home.
On a lighter note, put the watch in your man bag beforehand - it will be fine, and with sincerity enjoy your downtime and holiday!
odd place this. You come on to muse about the disrespect of property in life and are made out to be some middle class **** by that same people that bang on for ages about pizza ovens, electric cars and air fryers.
are you new here ??
I’m with you BTW , I don’t trust security one little bit. They might pass the checks , but some abuse their positions for personal gain ( I don’t have first hand knowledge of this happening in an airport , but do in other walks of life)
As a general rule I think the poorer you look the more you enjoy a holiday. A passport and credit card in a money belt tucked in your trowsers. Old clothes you'll make a profit on if the airline loses your bag. Wander round with a local supermarket bag in Decathlon sandals and the T-shirt you got from a race you did 10 years back. A wallet with a few notes in to hand over if you get robbed.
Happy hols, Kryton.
odd place this. You come on to muse about the disrespect of property in life and are made out to be some middle class **** by that same people that bang on for ages about pizza ovens, electric cars and air fryers.
Or their garden pond. Oh to have a garden,let alone a pond.
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You come on to muse about the disrespect of property in life and are made out to be some middle class ****
Because of this....
However, about a 2 miles away there’s a guy in a council house with an Aston Martin parked in the drive, no one touches is ?♂️
Just becuase weve obtained things of value, now we can only wear/use/display things behind closed doors.
And this....
Time to downgrade to a terraced house, buy a G shock from eBay and some Primark jeans 🙁
2+2=4
#perspective