You ads forced me to premium. YouTube

Yeah I've been premium a couple of years now.
I use the music player every day at work and the ad-free YouTube videos are a thing of joy.

The music player works well for me although I don't think it particularly opens you up to different stuff really.
I do feel like I have to try hard if I want to get through at least one day without hearing London Calling and How Soon is Now again 😊

I'd think about it if there was a couples membership rather than just single or full fat 6 person family.

I'm old enough to remember when there were no ads. Still it's a business I suppose.

I'd absolutely pay for it if it was £1.50-£2/month but £10/month is absolutely ridiculous

That’s £11.99 a month not £10.

I have it, but, it’s my music streaming service as well as YT content that I do appreciate not having ads in.

Basically Spotify with YT ad free for £2 a month. Although Spotify might have a better library?

I've pay for YouTube music ad free, but that doesn't get me normal YouTube and free. Am I doing it the wrong way round!?

Been YouTube premium for 4 years as I hate adverts, don’t listen to YouTube music at all as it’s 256 kbps AAC at best,  I use Tidal for 90% of my listening with 10% Apple Music

Actually just tried the music through Sonos and it sounds ok.

£15.99 per month?!?!
Absolutely not. That is ridiculous.

Yeah don't buy YouTube Premium via Apple otherwise it's £15.99/month instead of £11.99/month, same as OP I had to give in and buy Premium in the end as the ads are just ridiculous now

That’s £11.99 a month not £10.

Ah well, ads it is then.

No ads on PC for me. Must be something I installed. For 12 quid a month I'll put up with it on mobile/tv.

Been YouTube premium for 4 years as I hate adverts, don’t listen to YouTube music at all as it’s 256 kbps AAC at best, I use Tidal for 90% of my listening with 10% Apple Music

I would love to know what headphones/speakers you're using to actually notice the difference.

I bet everyone but me in this thread is not subscribed to the best channel on YouTube created by me.

😉

Im surprised ads are such a problem for some . Personally I just mute the ads, or even open in a new tab, leave it for 1/2 min and the vids plays after.

Yeah, I've found myself listening to it more and more as 'the algorithm' definitely seems to have nailed my listening choices!

Probably worth the money for me

£15.99 per month?!?!
Absolutely not. That is ridiculous.

139 Rupees or £1.41 per month in India. So yes it is utterly ridiculous.

I would love to know what headphones/speakers you’re using to actually notice the difference.

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It's an absolute bargain for the price of what was one CD years back.

What the hell do people want for 11.99 a month?

Count the hours you use it and divide by price. Tube + plus loads of music streaming.

Jeez.

👆That's a really expensive way to make a lot of music seem like it sounds bad 😳

My gf will dance around the kitchen loving her music coming out of her phone. I often connect it to the Bluetooth speaker as a bit of a nod to decent acoustics but that's some next level shit.🙂

👆That’s a really expensive way to make a lot of music seem like it sounds bad 😳

Ha…Ha, yeah I s’pose it is but I spend pretty much all day stuck in house due to my SPMS so I figured I may as well please myself with what time I have left.

Although if you added up everything I’ve spent on cycling from 1989 through to my last purchase of a Scott e-genius in 2015 to squeeze out the last few months of mobility before it all went to **** then I figure I’ve spent way north of £30k all in. So £10k for audio stuff isn’t that excessive as it’s all I’ve got left to keep me sane.

Totally. It looks incredible and I bet it sounds it too. Definitely looks expensive mind 😊

No ads on PC for me. Must be something I installed.

Ditto. Brave or Ublock Origin. No ads at all.

On the Firestick I installed SmartTube, and that has an option to automatically skip all the surfshark/nordvpn lies too.

I watch a lot of YouTube, and did pay for a month (or a free trial...can't remember) when I wanted to download for offline viewing, but £12.99 is too much, that's more than Spotify or Amazon Prime.

£5-6 a month would probably get me to sign up. It only really bothers me on the Smart TV which I use to watch 'proper' quality content/regular subscribed content (or irregular when it comes to Binky), on the laptop for mindless browsing I rely on a browser extension 🙂

I pay for YouTube music...is there an upgrade path to get video and music ad-free? If so, what do I need to do?

Last time I looked I would pay the tenner a month for music and it appeared to be 16 quid a month for video (on top of my music sub).

Is there a way to get both for a single (cheaper than 26 quid a month) price?

Ditto. Brave or Ublock Origin. No ads at all.

No, but presumably loads of gaps/silence instead?

I pay for YouTube music…is there an upgrade path to get video and music ad-free? If so, what do I need to do?

Last time I looked I would pay the tenner a month for music and it appeared to be 16 quid a month for video (on top of my music sub).

Is there a way to get both for a single (cheaper than 26 quid a month) price?

I just subscribed through my the App and both music and YT went ad free. Thats £11.99 for both music and YT.

Is that a typo in your post? It reads like you pay for music, but get ads in music?

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Ads also doing my head in. Has anyone moved Spotify family to the YouTube family package with ad free music and video? If so how was it, much moaning from teenage kids about loss of carefully curated playlists and stuff?

Just checked and YouTube family is £20 a month so it's one or the other

It’s a great business model - annoy people to the extent they will pay you not to see adverts, then require the user to be logged in at all times to benefit from “ad free” and thus allow you to further enhance your data collection / user profiling activities / turning the user into a product.

My music is ad-free...my YouTube videos aren't. I'm hoping there is a price to be ad-free for both. When I checked I couldn't see an option to do a single price for both, so it was a monthly fee for YouTube music and an additional price for YouTube videos...and it was about 26 quid for both.
In the screengrab above that looks to be 22 quid a month...

Ditto. Brave or Ublock Origin. No ads at all.

No, but presumably loads of gaps/silence instead?

Not for video. Click play, the video plays instantly from start to finish, with no pre roll ads and no annoying mid roll either. Exactly the way it should be.

With SmartTube there's a bit of a jump cut when it trims out the sponsored ad run by the youtuber, but that's much better than a 1 minute break for the youtuber to sell what is often false (or at least not entirely true) advertising.

Not used it for music, so maybe that's different.

Haven't seen a YT ad on any of my devices for years, all via free methods. Did watch something at a friend's house on their TV and was shocked at nearly half the viewing time being adverts for a 15 minute video, plus the creator's plug segment! Proof that commercialising something always ruins it.

Im surprised ads are such a problem for some . Personally I just mute the ads, or even open in a new tab, leave it for 1/2 min and the vids plays after.

They completely destroy the flow of the videos most of the time, the content creators cannot accurately control when they come in so they have a habit of cutting off sentences halfway through or at a pivotal point. Watching stuff ad-free is just so much more pleasant, like watching a film on BBC rather than ITV.

As mentioned above, uBlock Origin does an excellent job of eliminating all adverts on YouTube.

As mentioned above, uBlock Origin does an excellent job of eliminating all adverts on YouTube.

This...

My music is ad-free…my YouTube videos aren’t. I’m hoping there is a price to be ad-free for both. When I checked I couldn’t see an option to do a single price for both, so it was a monthly fee for YouTube music and an additional price for YouTube videos…and it was about 26 quid for both.
In the screengrab above that looks to be 22 quid a month…

Its one or the other, not both.

If you want music and video ad free via a subscription, cancel the Premium Music and resubscribe with the £11.99 a month option and youll have both music and video ad free.

It’s a great business model – annoy people to the extent they will pay you not to see adverts, then require the user to be logged in at all times to benefit from “ad free” and thus allow you to further enhance your data collection / user profiling activities / turning the user into a product.

Are we still talking about YouTube here?

Yeah, just rechecked and what is on offer now I music only or video and music and the prices are 10 per month for music or 12 per month for video and music. I'll cancel music and subscribe to both. Wasn't offering me that when I checked a few months back but will get it now, ta.

I put up with the ads as I’m not paying another sub for something. Getting ridiculous.

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I bet everyone but me in this thread is not subscribed to the best channel on YouTube created by me.

I am @r0cKeTd0g. I also have one of the nice brown t-shirts too. 😀

As a result of this thread I have cancelled Tidal and one Patreon for a channel I don’t watch any more, and subscribed to YouTube Premium instead. This has effectively cost me nothing, but the creators I watch/listen to will now get more revenue which is a bonus for them, and no ads is a bonus for me. I honestly don’t mind preroll ads, but the multiple mid roll ads on some channels are a complete pain.

Those who are blocking ads and watching content for free, how do you morally justify consuming people’s content that they’ve worked hard to produce without them getting any money for it from ads/subscriptions? I mean, with TV if you record and then skip the ads you’re making no difference to how much the channel gets from the advertisers, but in this case the advertisers are paying a little bit for every single impression so it seems to me that you’re pretty much stealing that source of revenue directly from the creators and YouTube (who are paying to host the content and stream it to you).

I am @r0cKeTd0g. I also have one of the nice brown t-shirts too.

Whoop!, send me your address and I'll send you a sticker!

I pay for Youtube premium so I can download the videos and watch when travelling on planes and trains, I know there are ways and means to download but not as seamless as it is natively in the app, plus no ads.

I've had YT Premium for ages. The music service is good enough to replace Spotify or Apply music for me, I watch an hour or so of videos most days so no ads is great. I use the background audio way more than I thought I would - lots of long videos don't really need the video part (interviews, DJ sets, etc) so just listen on my phone with headphones while I'm doing other stuff.

Those who are blocking ads and watching content for free, how do you morally justify consuming people’s content that they’ve worked hard to produce without them getting any money for it from ads/subscriptions?

I don't believe creators have any control of ads any more meaning they're either monetised or not. If the former YouTube just flings ads in wherever they like, if the latter YouTube just flings ads in wherever they like but the creator doesn't get paid.

I'd far rather support a creator via their own avenue of choice (sponsorship, merch etc.) than let YouTube extort money from me to stop seeing a ****ing Natwest 5 second roll every other ****ing minute. If it was a reasonable amount I'd consider it but 12 quid a month can **** right off.

I’d far rather support a creator via their own avenue of choice (sponsorship, merch etc.)

So long as you’re supporting a creator somehow, then that’s fair enough 👍

FWIW, Adblock Plus on Windows 11 blocks YouTube ads. However, I'm already on YouTube Music Premium so the comment above about it only costing another £2 pm makes the upgrade worthwhile for mobile and Smart TV watching anway.

If the premium subscription was a bit like patreon, with say 70% getting shared among the content creators I watch, then I might consider it.
As for ads, I thought that basically most of it goes to Google, and a bit gets shared. Except for new creators who get nothing until they have enough views and sign up for intrusion. And any creators that prefer to not have intrusive ads don't get promoted. So the Youtube ads are there primarily to provide an income for Google, not the creator.
And for the creator sponsored ad segments, then they'll have been paid regardless of whether I skip or not. And I always skip Nordvpn/Surfshark untruths and get cheesed off when the creators I would support sell out to the devil and lie about what they don't know about to earn a few bob.
If I pop them a tenner via Patreon/Kofi then they'd get infinitely more than they would if I watched all ads. And since ads are so intrusive, I'd probably watch less than half the content I do. On the TV with the built-in Smart TV app, it's basically impossible to watch youtube. So much pre-roll that by the time it gets to the actual vid, I've forgotton what it was I'd clicked on! Hence the Firestick and App with ad skipping features.

Those who are blocking ads and watching content for free, how do you morally justify consuming people’s content that they’ve worked hard to produce without them getting any money for it from ads/subscriptions

I'd have to think it was morally bad in the first place to justify it. Youtube is a sucky model that only really rewards certain people.

Ads play on my videos but I get no money from that.

If the premium subscription was a bit like patreon, with say 70% getting shared among the content creators I watch, then I might consider it.

That’s exactly how it does work. Admittedly YouTube takes a pretty big cut of 55%, but the remaining 45% of your subscription is shared among the creators you watch, proportional to watch time each month.

For free YouTube viewers the ad revenue is split the same way, ie YouTube keep 55% of ad revenue and give 45% to the creator. In most cases though, ad revenue will be way less than YouTube premium revenue on a per-user basis.