[Closed] Would you kick the dog?

Size 10 and do a spot kick as if your about to score Englands World cup winning Goal.

Send it in to orbit

Gie the wee basa a gud hoofin.

I will start by saying I hate dogs, however, you can't kick the dog because it is badly trained and the owner doesn't take her pet owning seriously. Contact the council and make a complaint.

Use a dog catching noose as a walking stick, catch it and then drop it over the gate when you are safely through!

Find the number for your local dog warden, they normally jump on this sort of behaviour in my experience.

If that fails then size 10 winter boots on your next descent.

Film it on your phone. Show it to the householder. If they do nothing, go to the police.

Dog might be annoying, but it's not responsible. This is down to the owner to sort and the council RoW team to enforce.

Get TJ to bore it to death. Don't worry though angeldust will resuscitate it once you're safely through.

report to the police.  thats a dog dangerously out of control as defined in law and / or give it a good boot.  After behaviour like that from the owner I certainly would report it as its clear they are not controlling it and will not.

bsims - you can.  You are allowed to protect yourself and if that entails kicking the dog yu are perfectly justified in doing so

LOls at the stabiliser.

Where are you? We have a lovely bull lurcher who won't stand for that sort of business. She will happily discipline badly mannered dog without doing any harm to it.

If it's self-defence or defending your dog, I wouldn't hesitate to boot it in the chops.

I had a similar incident on a tow path recently when an off lead dog came up to my (small friendly on a lead) dog, it was friendly sniffing at first but then the other dog snarled and snapped for no apparent reason..

My dogs about 6kg, and this one was about twice the size, ugly grey thing with a wrinkly face.

I had to yank my dog out of the way and position myself between the two, and i was just about mentally prepared to kick the living daylights out of the the aggressive dog.

The owners did apologise in fairness, but still, untrained dogs should be muzzled and on a lead.

bsims – you can.  You are allowed to protect yourself and if that entails kicking the dog yu are perfectly justified in doing so

LOls at the stabiliser.

You are correct TJ, you can (and legally) but you shouldn't. Its an overgrown rat not something that actually poses a threat.

Report to dog warden.

I love dogs.  In that situation I'd have hoofed the ****er into a low Earth orbit.

I love dogs and have two. I would 1. "Bark" and "shout" very loudly and suddenly at the dog. This often scares them off. If not. 2. Give it a kick.

In your situation I would have definitely booted the little sod. Not the poor little darling's fault of course, but it was still being a dick and you needed to get it to stop.

Big old dog went for my son while he was running round the local park the other day. No biting but did scratch him in a couple of places and scared him witless. Owner didn't give a toss, no word of apology or even comprehension, and we could hear her yelling over and over for the totally untrained mutt with no effect as we wandered off. Personally I'd have them all put down (the idiot owners, not the dogs, obvs).

I am more of a cat person really...

Next time you walk up with the dog, take a 'walking' stick and just whack it one..

why risk breaking a toe?

I like dogs but I wouldn't hesitate to attempt to send them into orbit if they are acting aggressive towards me (In reality this has happened maybe three times in decades and I've only connected once but it was worth it to see the look on both dog and owners face).  Alternatively carry a stick next time and "shoo it away".... of course the velocity of the stick would be dependant on dog.

What if it was a big dog?

I often find that people are a bit more shy when it comes to a bigger dog* that is actually a threat. That's not a criticism, you have to play it as you see it at the time. If mini sims was involved I would kick the dog over the hedge, and hopefully retain the presence of mind to not do the same to the owner. If micro sims was involved, I would fillet it with the scissors in the change bag.

*(insert chosen animal here)

I love dogs, but in my experience the worst thing you can do when a dog comes to see yours is pick your dog up. If the stranger is a big dog it’ll likely jump up on you, if small, well, you found out.

Not saying its your fault and you probably shouldve given it a boot in the chops, but did you really need to pick up the sausage?

Into orbit ..

Dog owner here, and I would boot it. Not totally smash it to bits, but a bit of a hoof. Neighbours dog was like the one you described. Can't be arsed with negotiation or going to the rozzers or council etc. Bit of a hoof problem solved, the little sod remember's 3 year's later snd doesn't come near me.

I'd kick a big dog too, and do whatever else was needed, if it was already chomping on me. Complaining to the flipping council isn't going to help much if some massive farm dog is having an actual chew on you, is it?

"Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to you in your capacity as Calderdale Dog Warden to complain about the treatment I am receiving from the unsecured bull-terrier/mastiff/cerberus cross at Lower Scrote Farm. So far it has badly mangled my left leg and has also severed my carotid artery, the bleed-out has made a right mess of my softshell. I look forward to receving your prompt response in the next four weeks in line with your stated communication policy.

Sincerely, A. Dead-Mountainbiker"

I would just boot it and move on with my life (and hopefully train the dog to leave me alone). (you also need to be prepared for the dog/other dog/owner to defend the dog you just kicked)

If you are not that way inclined you could report it as a dog attack, dog out of control in a public place etc. People with dogs like that normally wont take advice from you, or they would have trained the dog in the first place.

I have a dog and like animals, its a shame for the dog, but I have zero tolerance for me or my dog being attacked and prioritise myself and my dog above an attacking dog.

@mintimperial. I agree, if the dog is actually a treat, do what you have to.

I have a playing field within sight of my house and I see this type of interaction often. The amount of dog walkers, especially those with no control over their dogs is increasing and I dread the day I hear a child being attacked.

Don't think anyone has mentioned picking a dog up.

My dog likes to think he can take care of himself, but he's too small.. Allthough to be fair there's not an angry bone in his body, he just wants to sniff and make friends.

It's called bringing your dog up properly. People who have dogs that snap for no reason should be sterilised, because they bring thier children up the same.

Give it a shoeing, before it starts pooing.

As my old Spanish granny never said.

Onzadog, it's in Calderdale. You'd be most welcome...

Will email ROW. I expect new people moving in are the constant source of aggro.

I guess putting the route on a Calderdale trail guide wouldn't be out of the question? The dogs would have to get used to frequent visitors...

Good to see the internet hard men are out in force! 🤣

I'd kick anything that tried to bite me. The species is irrelevant.

Water pistol might be a good first line of defence.

I guess putting the route on a Calderdale trail guide wouldn’t be out of the question? The dogs would have to get used to frequent visitors…

Sounds like they'd have to get used to a dose of Timpsons too. 😂

Kick it is maybe a bit strong but placing a foot under it and assissting it in its merry way with aaflick is  quite effective. I've also gone full berserk at a dashy that was going full pelt for my ankle proper screaming at it and baring teeth quite amusing to watch the thread of doubt enter its mind the owner took her phone from her ear to say thanks!

I would tend to agree that once a bite has occured i may become a bit more robust in my reaction.

And i would never ever do anything other than shout unless i didnt have an option. I love dogs and all creatures but I've also had a german pointer get my face from nose to chin in its mouth so my views are slightly more proactive than they perhaps were.

I'd also report it mind because not doing so is irrisponsible/does nothing.

Give it a good hoof, it isn't only the owner who can train a dog, it should think twice next time 😁

Set Dolly on it?

Go and have an awkward conversation? Often folk don't realise they've moved onto a right of way and loose angry little dogs are going to get  hurt pretty quickly if they carry on biting people.

I got hoofed off by the sheep-dog on the zig zag descent last week, proper barrelled into me barking like a loon. It's not going to last long doing that.

I'd start with a gentle kick to see if it gets the message, if not then pick it up and throw it over the fence at the owner...

Do you not know how to behave around dogs? 🙂

Personally I wouldn't kick a dog if it wasn't doing any harm.  You might teach it a lesson it won't forget, but more likely you will give it an injury it doesn't deserve.  Best to find a way to tackle the source of the issue - the owner.

Kicked it? No.

Scruffed it and waved it , yelping and squirming , in the face of the owner? Yes.

report to the police.  thats a dog dangerously out of control as defined in law and / or give it a good boot.  After behaviour like that from the owner I certainly would report it as its clear they are not controlling it and will not.

I had to employ this technique a couple of years ago. I run a local trail at home and I’d never seen this particular yappy dog before, been using that trail for yonks (on and off bike) as it’s a direct route to the beach.. clearly not the only one to use it either...

Ran along it, yappy dog sets upon me. Wondering where it came from because I’d seen no-one on the trail, then further down the trail there’s a bungalow.. ahh.. so that’s it’s home... couple of times later and it attacks me again, so the next time I take my phone and lo and behold it’s back to attacking me. So I recorded the incident with the local council and thought nothing of it... a few weeks later and it’s back yapping so I booted it in the back leg and it yelped and stopped, then I heard someone shout at me so I ran upto them and told them what happened.. I got the “she’s only a little dog, she’s never done that before” excuses and I politely called that bollocks and told them I’d already reported it.

I take the opinion that you should try to reason with the owner, but if they are too stupid or retarded to understand then it’s fair game to kick the dog ... hard, because it has to be taught.

Badly behaved dogs are right up there with arrogant drivers when it comes to provoking the ire of otherwise meek Singletrack forumites.

IME, too many dog owners have no idea how to control their pets and fail to discipline them.  While kicking the mutt may be hugely satisfying and will prevent them from bothering you any further, it's not going to fix the underlying issue which is that the dog's owner has failed to properly train their pet.

Personally I wouldn’t kick a dog if it wasn’t doing any harm.

And I wouldn't punch a pensioner for pushing into the queue at the post office, but neither of these scenarios are relevant to the OP where harm, and distress did occur. 💡

Kick the dog OP, don't become one of the thousands of people admitted to hospital each year due to dog attacks.

Alternatively, get yourself a proper dog. Our family Staffie is the most loving well natured animal you'll come across, but if another dog plays silly buggers it would rip them to pieces.

And I wouldn’t punch a pensioner for pushing into the queue at the post office, but neither of these scenarios are relevant to the OP where harm, and distress did occur.

Genuine coffee/screen interface moment here!

TJ's advice is correct also if the dog is actually biting you boot the ****ing thing. Although in the op's case I just have an image of a man mincing about, Dashund in arms and squealing whilst a small dog nips his ankles in a pretty harmless manner. If a dog bites you and it doesnt break the skin, its not trying, its playing..

Still needs reporting though and is still very annoying.

Although in the op’s case I just have an image of a man mincing about, Daschund in arms and squealing whilst a small dog nips his ankles in a pretty harmless manner.

And there was me assuming the OP was a woman!

Silly sbob!

Used to have a dachs (rescue, timid from prior abuse), one day this jack russell came tearing under a boundary fence onto the footpath and went for her.  My walking staff leaped into immediate action and made contact with hind leg.  Sent the JR limping and yelping away.  Felt bad but in the heat of the moment it seemed appropriate.  'Bite Back' spray maybe?

Alternatively, get yourself a proper dog. Our family Staffie is the most loving well natured animal you’ll come across, but if another dog plays silly buggers it would rip them to pieces.

Ah, Staffie owner.  Makes a lot of sense.

I booted it in the back leg and it yelped and stopped,

Consider yourself extremely fortunate that the owner didn't get the RSPCA involved after that. You would almost certainly find yourself in court if reported for an unprovoked attack on a dog!

Makes a lot of sense.

What does? Keeping the dog on a lead and under control? Too right.

Certainly more than your two posts made of 100% senseless bollocks.

Here's a clue: when you are being called out before even joining a thread it may be time for some introspection. 💡

I would kick the dog and bite the ankles of the owner,that will teach them.

I would kick the dog and bite the ankles of the owner

Then rob the poor and shoot the money!

What does? Keeping the dog on a lead and under control? Too right.

But what about the rights of the dog to roam free? Shirley you can't deny the laws of nature?

But what about the rights of the dog to roam free? Shirley you can’t deny the laws of nature?

I appreciate that they are now shaved, buffed and scented with lavender, but you are still talking bollocks.

Mine or the dogs?

But what about the rights of the dog to roam free? Shirley you can’t deny the laws of nature?

I'm cool with dogs roaming in a rural area. Providing they behave and don't cause a nuisance.  But this one wasn't behaving, a gentle stab with you foot should sort it.

I like dogs, but don’t own one as i work shifts.

i worked as a window cleaner for 15 years, on and off, so I have been bitten many many times.

without fail, every time I’ve been bitten, the owner has said “don’t worry, he doesn’t bite”

it’s a shame for the dog in the op’s case, as there’s nothing happier than a well trained dog.

Dogs have no right to roam free. I can see stickers on lamp posts from this very seat offering fines to dog owners that think otherwise.

Dogs have no right to roam free

I support dogs' rights to stand on their own [s]two[/s] four feet!

I’m not a great defender of horses but they do have a pre-programmed response to loose yappy dogs which, unless the riders are very skilled or lucky, doesn’t tend to end well.

The owners aren’t going to do anything.  It’s on a bridleway report it.

There is a similar dog locally which everyone has moaned about and complained to the owner but not taken further.  Last week it went for a horse on the road.  It was only down to the skill of the rider that no-one was killed (I’m usually the one complaining about clueless horse riders).

"Alternatively, get yourself a proper dog. Our family Staffie is the most loving well natured animal you’ll come across, but if another dog plays silly buggers it would rip them to pieces"

Then you would be as irresponsible as the other dogs owner.

Also you would be dogless once the order to destroy your aggressive dog was passed down, would you be so smug of it's ability to 'rip them to pieces'

your aggressive dog

It's not aggressive, it is defensive. Calm yourself down.

Often folk don’t realise they’ve moved onto a right of way and loose angry little dogs are going to get  hurt pretty quickly if they carry on biting people.

If they've bought/rented the house this would've surely been pointed out to them at the time of buying/letting?!

I booted it in the back leg and it yelped and stopped,

Consider yourself extremely fortunate that the owner didn’t get the RSPCA involved after that. You would almost certainly find yourself in court if reported for an unprovoked attack on a dog!

It wasn't unprovoked tho?!

I've always thought I'd be a non-kicker, until a hellhound ran out of a farm & went for me on my bike, I tried to kick it but missed so just sped off.

Personally I’d take a hessian sack next time I was around that way. When the dog approaches simply capture it in your hessian sack. Take the dog home and spend a few weeks training it. Drop it back where you found it and hey presto! One well behaved dog.

It’s not aggressive, it is defensive. Calm yourself down.

The act of ripping another dog to pieces is not defensive, that's not how dogs work and it goes way beyond defensive behaviour.

Maybe the wording was badly chosen eh?

Good to see this thread going "full-Staffie-Big-Hitter"!

😀

Does the Staffie have it's own Kappa tracksuit and baseball bat?

angeldust

Does the Staffie have it’s own internet connection and big-hitting laptop?

FTFY 🙂

Good to see this thread going “full-Staffie-Big-Hitter”!

Big Bit 'er ?

I think we can all agree that the only solution agreeable to everyone is to borrow a horse and let it do the kicking.

Good to see this thread going “full-Staffie-Big-Hitter”!

What would your dog do if another dog attacked it, write a strongly worded letter?

And what would your advice to the OP be? So far your posts have lacked any content.

I think we can all agree that the only solution agreeable to everyone is to

Keep your dogs under control; on a lead.

My parents used to have a dog, once 2 larger dogs went for it, lucky it was on the lead and they ran away when I very angrily shouted at them.

I would've kicked them about 2 seconds later if they hadn't backed off.

But as you managed to back away, I think you did the right thing, it's not the dog's fault that the owners are idiots. In your situation you know where they live etc. in order to report it too, which is useful.

Has anyone actually tried kicking a dog?  I'd be afraid that I'd come off worse!

Has anyone actually tried kicking a dog?

Tried it with the family dog once but it blocked me and roundhouse kicked me out the mother ****ing window.

Yes, booted a farm collie locally once or twice....

I have two dogs. I'm completely with Cougar on this one.

Just to help your mental imagery, I'm female and the dachshund cross is more like a long wheelbase terrier (i.e. not a miniature). She's also a foster dog hence being extra protective of her (I'm keen not to hand her back to the RSPCA in bits). So I had my hands full which made any other interaction with the grumpy biting dog or the second loud but not aggressive dog pretty difficult.

I made it out without actual injury (and I was wearing sheep shearing clothes so you wouldn't actually see whether a dog had damaged them 😉 ) and without hoofing the little blighter.

However, this is a regular walk so I've emailed the ROW officer to see whether he can help. Otherwise I might need dog kicking training.