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Some of the posts make uncomfortable reading.
Oh man, you should definitely NOT check out the rest of the internet!
Yeah, how many of you lot would bonk rich potentially reasonably attractive women for 1K an hour.
(opens nuts and beer. waits...) 🙂
Some of the posts make uncomfortable reading.
You can pay 1.49 and ... oh .... no ... I mean just not read it?
In wreckers defence.
Brave.
who gets to decide if a word is pejorative ?
I'd say the people it's used against, is that fair?
Do we republish the O.E.D. every monday, with the the latest redactions, that some people have had emotional baggage attached to.
If by 'some people' you feminism as a whole then no. Once a year is sufficient.
If Kim Jong Un were telling his subjects, to stop using certain words we would all point and s****, at the bad dictator.
It's a bit Orwellian (1984) IMHO.
Oh, okay then you ni**er loving fa**ot. Oh, I'm sorry, did that offend, are you going to dictate that I stop using those words? Why's that then?
No, they would be a slave. As I said on page 4, choice is key, and I wouldn't compare someone who is on the game to avoid a student debt or wants a new sofa with someone forced into slavery (I think you know this but points for the suggestiveness of the question).
Right, I did miss that.
So can we agree then that your blanket statements on the preceding pages where you did exactly that (eg, "A prostitute is a whore, or a slag or a slut. That's just the way it is.") were rash generalisations and, in fact wildly inaccurate?
And can you perhaps understand now why people took exception to them?
Suppose a person is confined to a wheelchair, and can neither get out to meet others, nor pleasure himself. A person is paid to perform that service. Is this person worthy of the disgust and pejorative names bandied about on this thread?
iolo - Member
I'll ask again as my question was ignored.
What about the girls who work in countries where prostitution is legal?
Girls who do a days work (or night),not forced into it by some pimp, pay their taxes and health insurance.
What about their morality? Doing nothing wrong apart from earning an honest living.
How do you feel about them?
Wrecker, and only wrecker.
Could you please answer this question?
who gets to decide if a word is pejorative ?
Fortunately we don't need the OED, as wrecker himself provided definitions on page 2 so that there was no chance we could misunderstand him. We're not redefining anything.
Slag = promiscuous woman
Slut = A woman who has many sexual partners
Whore = A prostitute
Lawyers, Politicians, Drug Dealers, H&S Managers, Recruitment Consultants, Cleaners, Bankers and Estate Agents are all professionals.
As are Prostitutes.
All attract some form of negative thoughts and derogatory descriptive language. I see no reason if this is acceptable for the first lot, why Prostitutes should be exempt.
OP- you may smell another man or worse still the smell of a another man's porridge.
And Hora wins the internet (and owes me a new keyboard).
Hora...
OP- I'll leave this topic with a closing thought for you. You posted such a topic, state her age and it comes across almost like you are showing off/just want congratulations then take it the wrong way when others disagree. You state I post 'nonsense' however you cant listen or take onboard what others say to you.
Eh no...I stated her age only as you seemed to imply that there was something 'seedy' when I mentioned she was an attractive younger woman 14 years my junior. I was keen to pint out she was 26...the age gap is more than acceptable
Secondly I have welcomed the responses on here...I disagree with many of the opinions posted but haven't been offended by them in the slightest. What I do object to is people insulting me (as you did) when they have no knowledge of me whatsoever. Read my posts on this thread. You are the only person I've taken issue with.
I'd be interested if anyone else on here thought I was showing off? If I wanted to show off under the anonyimity of the internet why on earth would I post 'would you date a call girl'..think about it...its not exactly a claim to fame is it.
I think it's bang out of order to compare prositutes to with lawyers or politicians.
were rash generalisations and, in fact wildly inaccurate?
I'll concede that I was in a bad mood, and didn't like the person I was squabbling with, not that it's an excuse. It's certainly not fair to term sex slaves as prostitutes (or slags etc), as it's wrong. In my mind, they are rape victims. In mitigation (if there is any), that was not where the conversation was at and had I considered it, I would not have typed that.
And can you perhaps understand now why people took exception to them?
Of course! It's an emotive subject, and I have used some words that are toxic.
wrecker himself provided definitions on page 2
Where do you think I got the definitions from?
@ squirell king Firstly sorry for not getting your point [ and taking so long to reply]
Or is it really that superficial?
Probably you just get moral revulsion but I am not sure I would call it superficial but i am not sure what the correct word is.
Some folk thing sex is special and therefore not for sale I guess.
its odd we can sell our brawn , we can sell our brains for money - almost always to do things we would not do if we were not paid but sex is an no no area.
not sure I can explain why folk feel like this but, not that it will be likely to happen, i would not be a prostitute. there are plenty of other jobs I would not do either though.
I think it's bang out of order to compare prositutes to with lawyers or politicians.
Indeed only journalists are as bad as those two and I agree that is unfair on prostitutes.
so now we're all friends again...
Wrecker, can i assume your answer to the OP is no?
😉
its odd we can sell our brawn , we can sell our brains for money
speak for yourself.. I have tried without success on many occasion
:-)SquirrelKing
Re: "you ni**er loving fa**ot. Oh, I'm sorry, did that offend".
Well actually no it didn't.
In the same way I respect Stephen Hawking and don't respect Nigel Farage. These words really mean nothing to me coming from you.
Funnily enough, if you were to use those words in places where they carry the impact you intend, I imagine you would find yourself removed from the gene-pool quite quickly 🙂
What I do object to is people insulting me
Yet you asked opinions of the internet then get offended when you are told something you don't like to hear/an opinion.
Wrecker, can i assume your answer to the OP is no?
😀
Doesn't mean that I don't think you should. If you're OK with it rand you think she'll make you happy then do it.
I'm quite aware that I'm a prude.
To the OP - If you like her, are comfortable with the notion of what she does for a job, and shes attractive then why not?
Life's too short to worry about much else, So she's a call girl, in my mind there are far worse jobs out there (someone mentioned lawyers / polititians... :lol:) You're not going to marry her, not going to change her career, and so long as you're going in with your eyes open give it a go.
Yet you asked opinions of the internet then get offended when you are told something you don't like to hear/an opinion.
340 posts..I've taken offence at one of them - Yours. Lets just leave it there shall we.
Fine- open fire with your rifle, expect a shelling back.
Doesn't mean that I don't think you should. If you're OK with it rand you think she'll make you happy then do it.
I think the internet has given you its blessing, OP. 😉
Fine- open fire with your rifle, expect a shelling back
Is that a euphemism?
Fine- fire your rifle, expect a shelling back.
Given the thread, is that a euphemism?
Edit: beaten to it. Again, possibly a euphemism.
Says pumpmaster jizz.
Is there going to be a happy ending to this thread?
Is there going to be a happy ending to this thread?
I hope so, I love a happy ending. I think I'm going to celebrate with coke and hookers 😀
when I mentioned she was an attractive younger woman 14 years my junior. I was keen to pint out she was 26...
So if it was sold to me as 'would I be interested in some grown-up fun with a hot 20-something girl, who has a shady background, and probably a few issues that come with it' then the answer is probably yes... Here for a good time, not for a long time and all that...
It doesn't have to lead to marriage does it?
Is there going to be a happy ending to this thread?
probably a happy finish for someone 😈
That was the joke, yes. (-:
At uni, I went out with a girl who did hardcore porn- not the same thing but still sex for money. And some of the work was basically a client and a camera, so not much different. It didn't work out, my fault entirely, she had a lot of secrets and even though it was totally understandable, I was a kid though and a bit too black and white for it to work out. TBH I was kind of a dick about it and with hindsight I wish I could have done better by us both, it was her choice and she was at peace with it so why wasn't I?
Anyway... Things generally aren't simple between people, it'd probably be difficult at first but everything is difficult at first.
I think the internet has given you its blessing, OP.
Woah - not yet!
Now we're all friends again, i think we need pics before we can finally judge if it's OK. Or a link to her webpage.
Actually, shortly after I met my wife we were a bit cash strapped and she went on the game briefly to make ends meet. The first night she came back with £123. 'Who gave you £3?' i asked. 'Why, they all did'
Pics? What's the point in that when we can just hire her for an STW "demo day" and then give proper feedback?
In the same way I respect Stephen Hawking and don't respect Nigel Farage. These words really mean nothing to me coming from you.Funnily enough, if you were to use those words in places where they carry the impact you intend, I imagine you would find yourself removed from the gene-pool quite quickly
I imagine I would. My point wasn't really to offend but point out the ridiculousness of your statement, words like **** and faggot are wholly unnacceptable as dictated by the people they offend. Why then is it okay to use words like slut, skank, whore etc. to offend another group and then make a roundabout godwins law reference to defend it?
Anyway, this seems to have thankfully reached a conclusion so I'll leave it here, I think we all have better things to be doing as no more can really be said.
go for it! YOLO dude 😉 too many serious-righteous people here
To directly answer the OPs initial question. No, I wouldn't or couldn't make it work.
There are lots of unanswered questions that someone else, who was undecided, would need to be clear on to make their choice.
Examples would be: does she have a "normal job" as well or is this her way of making a living?
Could you trust her to not do an occasional nights work to cover an unexpected shortfall? Would you be OK with that?
Is she living a lifestyle that could be replicated by a "normal" job and more so would she be happy living a normal life?
As someone else said are you going to be happy with the cosy onesie and a cuddly night when she could put on the old career wardrobe? Is she then in "work mode"? How much of your relationship will be real or acted out? I'm assuming she's acting when at work?
Too many questions for me, so no.
i think we need pics before we can finally judge if it's OK. Or a link to her webpage.
She posted pics, but they were removed quite quickly.
And her website needs you to sign up. Er, I imagine.
^ ?
I think he means the OP's interest rather than Sten.
Oh, right. (-:
On the subject of property.
BBC2 is worth watching right now.
Suffragettes Forever.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_selling_(English_custom)
So you're 40 and she's 26. Using the 'half your age plus 7' rule she's too young for you.
Therefore it's icky.
im actually 39...born in 76
Am i all good?
Also no pics will be forthcoming. I said all along this was a hypothetical situation afterall!
Don't worry about people judging you (hypothetically) you know what's right & wrong for you.
Destination isn't important the journey that matters - have FUN
That's an old wives tail btw.
If she's 26 and your 39, tbh that is still slimey.
If she were 32 odd and bothof you shared openly your secrets laid out on the table from the word go then... Possibly a goer.
I personally wouldn't as it would never sit right with me.
Is she foreign as don't let that cloud your desires?
singlesteed - Member
If she's 26 and your 39, tbh that is still slimey.
Noncesence.
Northwind - Member
At uni, I went out with a girl who did hardcore porn
Pics or it didn't happen.
I am sure [s]most[/s] everyone on STW aspires to
[i]"skidding up to St.Peter broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”[/i]
Otherwise we would be watching TV instead of getting covered in Mud n Plasters every weekend
Some of the words that have been used may describe her, but they don't define her. GFI and if people get snotty, then set off round the world together and leave the curtain twitchers behind
I luv a happy ending
It is not noncesense but you are sympathising as a nonce. Ever thought about that ay yer slimey ...
It is not noncesense but you are sympathising as a nonce. Ever thought about that ay yer slimey ...
Last time I checked my medical textbooks most 26 year olds had finished puberty.
If the OP hasn't had kids and intends to, it makes total biological sense to bang mid/late-20s women and eventually settle down with one after he's known her for a few years. 13 years is quite a big gap, but consenting adults etc etc etc.
Is she foreign as don't let that cloud your desires?
Why does it matter if she's foreign?
im actually 39...born in 76Am i all good?
Only if she's 26 and a half. Otherwise you'll have to wait. Sorry but that's the law.
This is a long thread. Not read it all, but I wonder if some people disagreed with other people.
The moral of the thread is capitalism and monetary systems need to be abolished.
Amen.
The moral of the thread is capitalism and monetary systems need to be abolished.
Amen.
Spot on.
Also, we learned that when you shoot at hora with your internet-rifle in a socially-awkward way, he will retaliate with shells from his internet-canon, and that he makes decisions quickly and without asking for advice. It's been good. 🙂
Read most of this yesterday as I had plenty of time on my hands. So what happened to the transsexual mountain biking prostitute then?
That had to be a wind up surely 😆
I believe in Sten1 she had a consistent story backed up by a consistent posting history of sufficient depth to trust her on the for sale forum and apparently linked to her webpage which was of sufficient " quality " to justify removal of the link.
She's currently on holiday for a couple of days I believe.
As expected, half say go for it, half say no chance. Of course that's expected on such a subject.
Thing that suprises me a little is that those that are against it stated personal opinion of why they couldn't do it. Wether it was the thought of the deed, the thought of the past, the thought of physical/mental issues etc etc etc.
The people who were For it seemed to concentrate their arguments more on countering the people who were against it than giving reasons for why they would be For it. There were the obvious comments about getting yer rocks off with someone who knows what they are doing etc but not much else.
Has life got that slow for some that the thought of a bit of fun with a prostitute which may lead to something more is appealing?
Personally I think its quite unhealthy that no one suggested getting out a bit more and meeting a girl who isn't carrying so much baggage.
I think a few people alluded to that, but the bottom line is she's 14 years his junior and well fit 😀 He's probably struggling to use anything north of his waistline to think this one through 😉
I think the bottom line is he likes her she is attractive and intelligent she likes him and appears to find him attractive and is willing to give up a well paid job to make it work.
So if you have no hang ups about putting peoples pasts in the past what's not to like about dating an inteligent attractive woman who likes you.
The people who were For it seemed to concentrate their arguments more on countering the people who were against it than giving reasons for why they would be For it.
So if you have no hang ups about putting peoples pasts in the past what's not to like about dating an inteligent attractive woman who likes you.
This.
In fact, i'd go so far as to say I'd probably find it easier to accept than someone who has had an 'particularly active' past because they like the excitement/variety; would those urges disappear once settled down? Compared to someone whose past was basically a financially motivated one, but who is now retired and doesn't have the same degree of need.
Not saying once cupid's arrow struck home whether I could or couldn't accept either scenario, until you're in the situation I'm not convinced others could truly know either.
How do women get into becoming a working girl? What is the tipping point/what happens? I've been out with/seen a couple of girls who you could describe as Nymphomaniac's- it was a sport to them, they seemed to live and breath sex but they had a past/issues (one had a boyfriend who killed himself when she finished with him), the other had been messed with when she was younger. would they have been susceptible/gone on the game later?
I think this clouds my thoughts and makes me alittle of a prude when it comes to prostitution and strip clubs.
Its your life OP and it depends on how emotionally-attached you can get as a person. I get emotionally attached so would avoid someone with a past now.
You're obviously speaking about those that make conscious decisions to do it as opposed to those driven by drug addiction, slavery, etc.
For some, i'm sure it is a conscious financial decision. Whether as a 'career' choice, or a 'necessity', they have a commodity that someone is prepared to buy from them, in most cases at very good pricing and on a tax free basis with working hours to suit their needs.
I talked to a girl in a bar in the US, where sports bars are often also 'lite' versions of 'Gentleman's clubs' (I was there to watch Premiership football, honest - maybe a more embarassing admission) and she was a student. She had the option of waiting tables for paltry wages and tips, or could do 2 nights a week in a club with a very strong topless only no touching etiquette and rigorous enforcement of that by bouncers for far more. It wasn't a hard decision according to her. i know it's not quite the same as being a call girl, but the logic is the same imho.
I've been out with/seen a couple of girls who you could describe as Nymphomaniac's- it was a sport to them, they seemed to live and breath sex but they had a past/issues (one had a boyfriend who killed himself when she finished with him), the other had been messed with when she was younger. would they have been susceptible
Newsflash, women can enjoy sex as much as men without being "messed up".
I get emotionally attached so would avoid someone with a past now.
Which means you would die alone because of your insecurities if you ever broke up with your missus.
The age thing was meant to be a positive...Im 40..i think most guys my age would be flattered by the attention of a stunning 26 year old.
yes strange isn't it. I'm not sure I would trust that someone who sells her body for money wouldn't be after a more long term arrangement i.e. how big is your bank account?
Newsflash, women can enjoy sex as much as men without being "messed up".
No we aren't talking a standard/healthy sexdrive here. You'd know about it if you experienced a nyphomaniac. They also struggle daily to be faithful.
She had the option of waiting tables for paltry wages and tips, or could do 2 nights a week in a club
English students do this too. I knew of two at Uni. They weren't even nice looking/you wouldn't think it but the lighting etc means its not that important..
Hypothetically speaking,
I don't get in from my welding job, and want to start welding again.
(If I need the money I will though).
I would imagine it's the same with a call girl.
Maybe she's looking for a sugar daddy.
Personally the risk of possible infection out weighs the "Fun Wrestle".
(For me)
Plenty of younger gal's go for older guys, I'm forty odd and tend to end up with wimin 25/30 years of age, I've still got the "Drive", but find wimin my age just want a cuddle.
So for me, even if it's casual, I'd want exclusivity.
*Puts down tuna mayo pitta bread sandwich*
nyphomaniac
Nymphomania is a sexist and dated word for hypersexuality, which isn't even a formal diagnosis. The disease doesn't exist except in the minds of a few psychologists.
They just weren't that into you Hora, you are suffering from Fox and the Grapes syndrome.
So if you have no hang ups about putting peoples pasts in the past
It depends on what is in the past rather than putting it in the past. I dont think any of us would date say Rose West due to her past ; there are acts none of us could put in the past. IMHO its not really about the past its about your view of what she did.
Some acts colour your entire view of folks and prostitution is one for some folks. I am still not one of them
I've heard houns you love a bit'a'tuna!
Or is that a bite of the tuna...
Sad thread....back to the what other internet biking sites to look at thread 😕
It depends on what is in the past rather than putting it in the past. I dont think any of us would date say Rose West due to her past
But what about a [i]sexy[/i] Rose West?
this still going?
eh????Fox and the Grapes syndrome
'Wimmin my age just want to cuddle'
Maybe for you but that isn't true for others.
If you go through with this then watch this first "The Bunny Game" 2010
Pretty much what I would Do 😉