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...without telling you?
I'm in the process of completely re landscaping our garden and am on a tight deadline as I have topsoil and turf being delivered soon.
As part of the rejig I want to remove the manky half dead hedge that provides about 30% of the boundary with my neighbour. We own the boundary line as it were so I'm within my rights to remove the hedge.
However, my neighbour (whom I get on with) isn't around to inform/politely ask if he has any issues. His garden doesn't look like it's been used in years.
Would it annoy the STW masses if you woke up to 1/3rd of your garden boundary missing?!
Watching this with interest, we've just moved in somewhere with hedges in the back garden as boundary. We own them all and are planning on taking them out and putting a fence up.
Not sure whether the nosey old boy next door is going to be happy.
If it helps you OP I'm just going to go ahead and do it.
Tell him first if you value his friendship. If you don't, carry on.
What are you replacing it with?
what are you replacing it with ?
honestly ask, have you read the threads on here about neighbours. It normally starts with "My neighbours ripped out my hedge" or something.
Would it annoy the STW masses if you woke up to 1/3rd of your garden boundary missing?!
Yes - a lot.
I'll be replacing it with some sort of wooden panel type thing.
For reference, hedge on the left at the bottom.
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"Not sure whether the nosey old boy next door is going to be happy.
If it helps you OP I'm just going to go ahead and do it."
why not speak to him first inform him that you are doing it and that you do own it according to deeds. or look like a **** and cut it down without telling him and make an enemy before you start.
Would it annoy your average STW forumite? Are you serious? They'd be so absolutely apoplectic, they'd go into a crazed frenzy of bedwetting, middle class, passive aggressiveness.
They'd post a sternly worded thread on here detailing the untold misery they're now being forced to endure, how this is surely a symptom of the sick society we live in, then before the day is out they'd have involved the police, the local council, social services, Waitress customer services, and the RSPCA
doesnt look like they would even notice that hedge was gone tbh ...you cant see it from there garden by the looks of it.
The problem I have is that I need to get all the hedge removed and burned before I clear the ground for my turf and topsoil which will arrive very soon.
My neighbour's a nice guy but it doesn't look like he ever used his garden (I'm always trying to defend our garden from giant thorny triffids that climb over the fence)
To be honest I would . Hedges make a much better boundary than fences both in terms of look and durability and providing a haven for wildlife.
It also suggests negative things about the neighbour who makes changes to a shared boundary without consultation.
I have good relations with both my neighbours and we don't fall out over stuff because we discuss it and agree first.
if the hedge truly is manky as part of one of mine is then I'd have no objection to it coming out and indeed would help with the labour and cost.
I'd kill you and use your bones to fill the gap
To be honest I would . Hedges make a much better boundary than fences both in terms of look and durability and providing a haven for wildlife.
what he said ...im in the process of growing a hedge so i can ditch my manky fence down the road side.
What does he have his side of the hedge? Will you be removing the roots (I would think so)?
How are you going to do that without disturbing his property?
How will you reinstate his side?
Can you put the new fence in from your side without going onto his land?
All these points and more need to be discussed with him.
Yeah I'm not keen on removing hedges generally but the section at the back (already removed) had (for reasons unknown) a 6 foot gap in it. The bit at the side is pretty dead in places
Are their not any rules/laws preventing you from burning a hedge?
from that photo, I'd doubt he'd even notice.....
What does he have his side of the hedge? Will you be removing the roots (I would think so)?
He has (from what I can tell) a rusty old garden chair, some rubbish and overgrown weeds behind the hedge.
I'm not sure about the roots tbh - was thinking of sticking the fence up and then dealing with them.
Oh and I have checked for bird's nests and the like..
I'm pretty sure I can burn my hedge- other people seem to burn things .
*shrugs*
Another point to consider is that the birds are feeling quite sexy now so lots of eggs in nests.
If you get caught destroying a nest with eggs, it's big fine time.
Ignore my last comment. too slow typing.
Are their not any rules/laws preventing you from burning a hedge?
None at all .
its just garden waste.
That said I reckon a good sized mattress would fill the gap nicely.
None at all .its just garden waste.
Hint - There are plenty rules and laws on burning garden waste...
Looks like leylandii so on that basis and it's location I'd say it needs to go .... but I would be mightily pissed if I came home to find my hedge gone with no prior warning/discussion.
You'll need to replace it with fencing similar to what's there already.
Have fun taking it out. I did a similar section (but a bit higher) two years ago and it was fairly hard work.
"Garden bonfires: the rules
There are no laws against having a bonfire,"
direct from the gov website.
there are laws against being a cock how ever and doing it when your neighbour has washing out or windows open..... OR doing it for commercial purposes.
but a considerate controlled burn in my garden of non toxic garden waste and theres **** all can be done
how ever - pulling down a leylandii today and burning it tomorrow will result in silly ammounts of smoke. - better taking it to the tip.
it looks like a good part of it is on his side.
It would be sensible to ask first.
and it's not going to get in the way of your turf particularly.
I think you've convinced yourself of the overriding need to tear it out.
Put a note through his letter box telling him you want to remove it, and the date you plan to do so - I assume he does go home every night, so he'll read it.
I would not be annoyed if you cut down that horrible hedge that needs trimming twice a year.
I WOULD be annoyed if you didn't pay me the courtesy of asking me first.
Is the hedge yew? In my view it would be very sad to get rid of a yew hedge, the reason it is half dead is because it has been cut incorrectly, it should be cut on a slant or batter so the top is narrower than the bottom.
Baffles me why you'd even contemplate messing around with your garden borders when you have a lovely hill ripe for building sweet trails and ragging your roper Reign on 100m or so away. 😕
For what its worth I'd be very pissed off.
Not everyone wants a manicured estate - any birds or other wildlife passing by would see your neighbours garden as immensely preferable to the barren wasteland currently on your side.Whether you would want your garden like that or not doesn't affect how your neighbour sees it.
Looking at the photo it looks a pretty difficult job to remove it without causing some disturbance next door so I'd make sure I at least checked with them first.
And careful for birds nests...
You could put a rusting old washing machine in the gap where the hedge was. Then invite all your mates round to drink cans of Stella while you burn all the garden waste, and some tyres
"Garden bonfires: the rules
There are no laws against having a bonfire,"direct from the gov website.
Read the rest of that page.
i did - it says dont be an ass hole .... but there are no specific laws saying i cant have a fire in my garden....
no different to having a BBQ on a summers day or having your smoking chimnea goign with damp wood all night long as an old neighbour of mine did....
As Lady G said: push a polite note through their letterbox. Invite them around for coffee and explanation. It looks a long way from their and your houses. So long as you match the fence on the left, they have little room to argue.
From the details in your post, it sounds like the garden has been a long time in the planning? Could you not have informed him earlier when he was about, rather than wait until you are at a time critical point of the work?
You mention that you want to inform him/ask if he has any issues. What will you do if he objects? Presumably you are going to get rid of the hedge anyway?
I would be cheesed off if my neighbour just ripped up a hedge that bounds our garden without at least informing me, even if it is their legal boundary.
Being as he is not around to inform, I would drop a note through the door explaining what you are planning on doing and perhaps apologising that you have not been able to speak to him face to face about it in advance. Explain that you will try to keep disruption to a minimum & will clear up any disruption to his garden that occurs once the work is done. It will show that you are not just doing it without considering 'the neighbours'.
Oh, and as above - the birds are starting to get frisky this time of year so look out for nests.
I'd be very annoyed if you damaged that hedge, if it was mine. I can't see how you describe his garden as unused either. There is a reasonable lawn and a matching hedge on his end boundary trimmed to the same height. Even if you do get agreement to remove it there will be a good bit of making good to do on their side. I'd do nothing to it without agreement, and even then expect relations to be strained afterwards.
Go for it, it yours, you can do what you want.. it at the bottom of the garden not doing anything any good or really giving any privacy, if anything you be allowing more light into his garden.
From the photo it doesn't seem it would be an issue, but then again its the only 'private' part of his garden.
I'd be upset if my neighbour ripped out the hedge especially as I consider it to be 'mine'. However, I have pruned it back extremely hard each of the three years we've been here and recovered about 1 metre of driveway width.
If you can do it without cutting out the central stems, I would cut back your side hard to the trunks and put the fence in front of it to hide the dead wood. From his side it should still be green (and healthy)
If the only rush is so you can burn it before your turf arrives, just take it to the tips green waste bin instead.
Our neighbours removed a boundary hedge without asking. We were pretty annoyed(*), as were our other neighbours who were also affected.
I've forgiven them now, but we had to have some quite tense conversations.
(*) Speechless, furious, livid, etc....
Mtbel - alas the hill is full of steep, techy woodland descents but of the strict footpath type :-/
The hedge is leylandi and has been fully checked for bird's nests and pixies.
I have been knocking on my neighbours door quite regularly.
It's not that I can't lay turf with the hedge there, more that I can't then have a big bonfire on the new turf and I have no means of getting stuff to a tip :-/
NEXT QUESTION: If you owned the land behind and some guy (who you've chatted to once) asked if he could use your old bonfire site to burn his hedges, would you find that odd/feel a offended?!
"NEXT QUESTION: If you owned the land behind and some guy (who you've chatted to once) asked if he could use your old bonfire site to burn his hedges, would you find that odd/feel a offended?! "
Not in the slightest and I'd say yes .
Nope ask away, as long as you have no issue with being told no.... though I'd make it clear your happy to get rid of any unburnt (partially burn?) rubbish afterwards. Shouldn't be any but make it clear you would be happy doing do....
[i]NEXT QUESTION: If you owned the land behind and some guy (who you've chatted to once) asked if he could use your old bonfire site to burn his hedges, would you find that odd/feel a offended?[/i]
A bottle of something nice, decent wine perhaps, would be a good social lubricant. And you cleared up, pile the unburned ends back onto the ash next morning and set them burning.
For whats its worth ...
Moved into a new house a year ago ... I asked/informed my neighbour I'd be messing about with the boundary at the bottom of our gardens. Ask if a could have access/be in his garden when I do it and told him I probably will not be doing it for some time yet.... That was back in late september... I dug the post holes yday and hope to have the new fence up next week sometime.
The point being...
You must have know for some time about your own plans. So bad form for not taking the 5 mins to tell the old boy.
But it's a strange one aye ? ... my neighbour was "yeah whatever mate" ... but like someone said up there if I hadn't told him he may well have had the needle ??
I was pretty pi55ed off when I came in from work to find my neighbour had been testing her new hedge trimmers on my hedge. She usually cuts the vertical face on her side, don't mind that, but she had taken the top of hedge from 7ft down to about 3 1/2. She said she got carried away. It has never happened again since.....now back up to 7ft
As has been said, leave it, that is home to all sorts of flora and fauna. Looks far better than any fence.
You can burn up to 7.5 tons of self generated green waste a day. We are so short of staff these days that burning gets ignored or put onto the local authority. We only get involved if burning waste ie skip full of tyres etc
you need to know what he thinks
leave a note with your contact numbers on - but remember that it's only a short section, you could put the sections of turf to one side until you know
if and when you get the nod, you could lift and relay the turf to do the fire, it's pretty resilient stuff, especially ones that come on the back of a lorry that have to be resilient enough to withstand transport and relaying
or get an oil drum or similar to burn in
*awaits the post of 'thats where we buried barky the dog, he was my best friend and you've dug up his grave <goes to find shotgun>
you could put the sections of turf to one side until you know
Not really. Once cut, rolls of turf are meant to be laid within a few days.
i did - it says dont be an ass hole .... but there are no specific laws saying i cant have a fire in my garden....no different to having a BBQ on a summers day or having your smoking chimnea goign with damp wood all night long as an old neighbour of mine did....
One of the primary sources of smoke nuisance is domestic bonfires. Bonfires are not specifically prohibited but under section 79 of the Environmental Protection Act 1990, local authorities have a duty to take reasonably practicable steps to investigate complaints of statutory nuisances, including: “smoke emitted from premises so as to be prejudicial to health or a nuisance”.
Glad to see i'm not the only one with a yellowing Christmas tree lingering about, waiting to be disposed of.
Glad to see i'm not the only one with a yellowing Christmas tree lingering about, waiting to be disposed of.
🙂 well I was going to sling it over the hedge but now I'm not so sure..
From experience at home, live in a private appartment block, large connifers seperating us from the houses over the fence, neighbour complained to council about our conifers growing trough fence, which we couldnt see, bloke from council sent us threatening letter , cut them back or be charged by council.We got them cut down,and removed result neighbours then complaining about lack of privacy, wouldnt have bought house etc.
A customer had a long drive, he went on holiday for a few weeks came back neighbour had removed his gate post and created a new entry to the rear of his property, when there was no entry there before, the neigbours house backed onto my customers drive.
Also worked at a large house,got asked by the householder, to cut small tree down, neighbour then started screaming id cut a tree down with out asking him, it wasnt his tree or his property and i was acting on behalf of the house owner,i offered him a tube of gripfill to stick it back up again he didnt see the humour.
Probably whatever you do someone else will have a different opinion, talk , liase and just do it and see what happens.
My neighbour moaned because I removed a boundary hedge on the other side of the boundary from their house, complaining it reduced their privacy.
But then her mentalist attitude is already documented on here.
Oh.. Engerland? :'(alas the hill is full of steep, techy woodland descents but of the strict footpath type :-/
Your neighbour's getting a free fence and a bigger garden. Nowt to complain about, go ahead and do it.
They look like trees rather than hedges
Mtbel - Yep Darbysherr , Engerlund :-/
They're leylandi type trees stuffed together to make a hedge. I had a closer look earlier and it/they really are knackered..
silly question perhaps, but are you sure it's not your fence? typically the LHS is your responsibility, non?
and no, i'd speak to them first, but i try to consider other's opinions, unless of course i think i really won't like them... 😉
Del - it definitely is our fence , I've checked the deeds and everyfink.
The hedge will be going it's just a case of trying to be nice about it!
When you put in the new fence, don't forget about the little hedgehogs that used to use the hedge as a thoroughfare to get to that lovely, wild, insect filled heaven that is the end of your neighbours garden. Make sure there are little gaps along the fence for them to get through 🙂
However, my neighbour (whom I get on with) isn't around to inform/politely ask if he has any issues. His garden doesn't look like it's been used in years.
I'm quite a laidback sort of neighbour. If my neighbour did this I might say 'oh, thats quite nice' but then again I might think a better solution, different height, different colour would be better and why didn't you give me the courtesy? I might have chipped in for a better one etc etc.
Do the right thing. Bin your 'timescales'.
Its like my GF coming home with a load of pink cushions for the sofa because she think they'd look right.
Ask. At the very least it shows respect.
hedgehog tunnels - noted. I've never seen any around our way but then I guess I wouldn't if they're all tucked up in hedgehog HQ.
I'm really hoping I can talk to Mr Neighbour as my turf is being deliveres on Monday. Failing all else I guess I can lay the turf and then hire a van to take the hedge to the tip, rather than burn it..
Anyone near Chesterfield or sheffield want to lend me a van?! 😀
I was pretty pi55ed off when I came in from work to find my neighbour had been testing her new hedge trimmers on my hedge. She usually cuts the vertical face on her side, don't mind that, but she had taken the top of hedge from 7ft down to about 3 1/2. She said she got carried away. It has never happened again since.....now back up to 7ft
Could be worse. I looked out of my kitchen window one day to see the ends of some hedge clippers poking through my hedge about a third of the way down. Out I go to see what Ian's up to this time. He was just clipping a 1 foot long section in the middle to his preferred height so I would know how short to cut the remaining 70 feet 🙂
OP have you considered wife-swapping with your neighbour yet? I just thought I'd throw that idea into the bowl so to speak 😀
OP have you considered wife-swapping with your neighbour yet? I just thought I'd throw that idea into the bowl so to speak
Well I'm always looking for opportunities but alas my neighbour is a middle aged divorcee living on his own ..
Nowt to add but you have a cracking view !!
Nowt to add but you have a cracking view !!
Cheers, it's not all great though as there's a mainline railway hiding behind the trees and a fairly busy road at the front of the house. Still, it's nice to sit in the conservatory and watch the gert big birds of prey circle above the trees ..
Far too much pandering going on by stw types! And hedgehog tunnels? If I put up a fence I dont want it full of 'oles!
You're not removing it to leave a bare gap...It's a nice new fence. Privacy retained, horrible conifer gone. Win win. Just do it as Mr Nike would say
Well, it seems a bit of a waste of 3 pages of STW's finest virtual thingy space ..
I finally caught up with my neighbour and he said "yeah whatever, it's fine"
Even better, Mr Owner Of Land Out Back has let me dump all of the hedge on his land for a bonfire.
Perhaps being considerate of Mr Neighbour has paid off karma wise with Mr landowner?!
@binners - 😆 You've just described the majority of English self-righteous duplicitous busy bodies this country seems infected with more than any other on the planet.
I must be missing something. Your hedge, your land, do what the **** you want with it surely? I mean, if both parties agree something that suits both of them, then that's great, but there is no reason why they should.
Anyone is entitled to put an additional fence/hedge up on their own side of the boundary if they want, and so long as there's not a light/overhang issue the neighbours don't come into it.
RopeyReignRider - MemberWell, it seems a bit of a waste of 3 pages of STW's finest virtual thingy space ..
I finally caught up with my neighbour and he said "yeah whatever, it's fine"
Even better, Mr Owner Of Land Out Back has let me dump all of the hedge on his land for a bonfire.
Perhaps being considerate of Mr Neighbour has paid off karma wise with Mr landowner?!
OR
They're both planning to do something that will piss you off massively. And they'll justify it by saying that they let you remove the hedge and have the bonfire! 😆