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[Closed] Would this new EU law have affected the Brexit vote?

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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/eu-brexit-uk-labour-laws-migrant-workers-a8375836.html

The EU parliament has passed new law to end the use of free movement of people for the undercutting of local workers by EU migrants.

If we'd had this law a couple of years ago, maybe it would have changed how many of the Brexit voters voted.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 3:28 pm
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Dat can of worms...  I think you might be on to something though personally.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 3:34 pm
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But surely such a law would be incompatible with English law as it is being imposed by an unelected bunch of foreigner, or something.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 3:36 pm
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Ask LyingBloHard of FlatulantFarage for thier view.

I suspect the Law in question was being scooped out long before CallMeDave swallowed his own trotters and as it affected all Nations under the Banner of the EU that bunch ^^ new all along about it.

It could also be a political back door apeasment that Maybot uses when she’s negotiating the Bexshite deal, in a sort of “ohh look at me, no not my shoes, but I’ve done something wonderful for you lot of unwashed.. I’ve secured an agreement that says Dirty Immigrants can’t benpaid more than you scrotes”

When in fact the Law was already in flight.

Or something lyke..


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 3:44 pm
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It's a small scale loophole that specifically deals with people who are employed in another company and shipped into do work in another. I guess anything can be spun but it wouldn't impact the idea that builders are quoting less or people are coming here taking jobs here.

The UK has a minimum wage mechanism and would have the ability to push through legislation to set more minimum wage regs per industry etc.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 3:44 pm
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No, I don't think so. Detail wasn't a strong point with the Leave campaign.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 3:51 pm
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Is it on the side of a bus?

Is it printed on the front page of the Daily Mail?

Will it make the wealthy richer?

If the answer to any of those is no then they would still vote leave.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 3:56 pm
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Would it have prevented Turkey joining the EU?


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 4:05 pm
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I would guess this is to prevent the situation they have in Germany where truck drivers are employed in their home country at a lower rate but work and pretty much live outside of their home country...

I was not aware of wide scale abuse like this in the UK there are plenty of examples of people being paid less than minimum wage off the books. it will not stop people moving into another country and working for minimum wage which could be below the “normal” rate...


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 4:30 pm
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I think Mike is correct above.

The Independent are exagerating the implications somewhat.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 4:41 pm
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Wouldn't make any difference IMO, as it doesn't stop immigrants taking all the housing and clogging up the NHS.

The reality is that the Tories have done nothing to stop building companies with their excessive land banks from slowing down building to ensure prices stay high in a slowing market as well as the immigrants being the ones that keep the NHS running..


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 4:43 pm
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No.  They voted that way because they don't like them full stop (either that, or the other alternative Stewart Lee suggested).


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 7:23 pm
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They can be both


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 7:49 pm
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as well as the immigrants being the ones that keep the NHS running

They keep the company I work for running as well, roughly two-thirds of the workforce are Polish or from other Central European countries. And most are paid better than I am, they’re skilled car repair people. The only ones on lower pay would be the car wash and valeting people, but they’re sun-contracted from another company.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 7:57 pm
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No, 'cos foreigners innit?


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 8:16 pm
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No.

While the left wing London media like to portray all leavers as massively xenophobic, a stereotype which seems to be adopted above, there were so many other reasons for leaving.

Ireland, France, Netherlands being coerced into second referenda when they gave the 'wrong' answer (and attempts by the establishment, for want of a better word, to do the same here) CAP basically being a scheme to transfer money from taxpayers to landowners, UK exposure to bailing out other countries when the Euro eventually collapses being the three biggest in my case. Nothing to do with immigration or labour laws, this new scheme would have had no effect whatsoever on the way the vast majority of leavers voted.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 10:01 pm
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No.

While the left wing London media like to portray all leavers as massively xenophobic, a stereotype which seems to be adopted above, there were so many other reasons for leaving.

But are there a resonable number of xenophobic and racist people who voted leave?

Just to check what is the UK's exposure to debt and were we obliged to join via EU membership?

And if it wasn't such a factor why all the ads targeting it?


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 10:06 pm
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All EU member States are exposed via the EFSM. We cannot opt out, but as a non-Eurozone country we also cannot benefit should we ever need to do so. So we cover most other EU countries and get no cover in return. Theoretically the collective exposure is up to the entire EU budget! Hopefully in practice the country requiring it will have been booted out of the Eurozone long before it reaches this level of spending.

The EFSF is financed purely by Eurozone countries, I have no problem with that, but we should not get involved.

There were indeed a few bigots on the leave side, but  no more so than in the general population. I would argue that they are more vocal than the majority rather than more numerous. Any ad mentioning immigration somehow became news, any reasonable debate much less newsworthy.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 10:27 pm
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Nothing to do with immigration

Quick! Tell the government and the opposition… they are under the mistaken belief that ending the free movement of workers is an absolute red line dictated to them by the people in the referendum. If they can drop that without fear of a backlash from Leave voters, this whole drawing up a new relationship with the EU, outside it, suddenly gets a whole lot easier.


 
Posted : 07/08/2018 6:17 am

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