[Closed] Would some kind soul be able to create this diagram and achieve global fame?

Do you need a pie chart to go with that?

Or perhaps a logo.....

Your publisher is going to love you when you hand over a load of diagrams done in excel.

They'll only have to recreate them properly, so you may as well not bother.

(if you change your mind and want them done in illustrator...)

Ah - well I have loads of images which people have already given me permission to use, and these are pretty much all jpegs.

I am not expecting to necessarily attract a huge publisher, but I do have a couple of smaller specialist ones who will be interested.

Thanks for any help offered!

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Simon,

Presumably this is someone else's concept that you are ripping off / reinventing / referencing. Do those lines represent specific equations / formulae? if so then some sort of numerical graphing package (or Excel if you must) is probably a reasonable way to go (but you'd need to provide the equations if you expect someone else to do your job for you); if they are just lines showing a concept and their exact positions and crossing points are relatively arbitrary then you could easily draw it in any vector drawing package - or by putting that on a powerpoint slide and drawing on top then deleting the picture.

I could do it for you, but anyone who thinks they are smart enough to write a book on ecology should be able to work out how with the aid of google.

I had a go in Paint, I added a couple of extra lines for future use, hope that helps. Dont forget to credit me in the book.
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damo2576 got there 1st!

In that case, I really would wait until you have a publisher.

The chances are that some/all of the jpegs are not going to be high enough quality for re-print in a book. So I'd wait until you can find out what they require.

Also a publisher will have there own designers that can easily recreate images such as the one above.

Bit of a weird graph, looks like something someone's drawn without really understanding what a parabola is...

If it's really a parabola, try [url= http://www.excelforum.com/excel-worksheet-functions/521775-how-can-i-draw-a-parabola-in-excel-like-y-x-2-3-a.html ]here[/url]. You'll need to play about with the coefficients to get it to look right.

How are we supposed to add rainbows and cats in the back wheel when you give us so little to work with?

Nice touch Dobbo.
What's your budget for this Simon?

Ah right,

Basically this is how medieval philosophers understood the flight paths of projectiles, prior to Galileo. The point I am making i that what we see is so often based not just on what is out there, but on what we expect to see.

I do not have the equations that generated this. It is more a case that people such as Albert of Saxony conceived of the motion as having three distinct phases, especially seen in path A F G O B.

Oh and I appreciate everyone's efforts but I don't think any publisher will want this graph with a silhouette of that chap on his mountain bike with Mrs Flash added basket, rainbow and stars. I'll save that image for my next book on shamanism thank you 🙂

I have no budget at all, all I can offer is potential global fame once the book goes into the best seller charts world wide.

Basically this is how medieval philosophers understood the flight paths of projectiles, prior to Galileo.

I was explaining to the kids the other day how it is that if you simultaneously drop a bullet from one hand and fire another bullet from a gun held level and at the same height then the bullets will hit the ground at the same time.

Avdave

You'll probably enjoy this paper then!

MERGA.NET.AU "http://www.merga.net.au/documents/RP722005.pdf"

From a technical perspective - there is no way that those curves can come from an ecological model. Constant radii trajectories are not commensurate with the non-linear process you are trying to describe.

Would it not be better to start with the underlying model, and look at the linear interceptions?

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yay for dobbo!

Dobbo, that's the finest post of the week, month, and possibly the year!

haha, i liked it even before the bear carrying bike arrived. 😆

Er... +1 for what djaustin said. I think.
But Dobbos effort is far more entertaining.

Dobbo, I like the cut of your jib!

Dobbo - awesome 🙂

But I was hoping it would have followed the first trajectory - then I could [url= http://transitionconsciousness.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/integr8-model/ ]show it in my lectures[/url]!

BTW - I had an email from The Daily Mash today and they are letting me use an image of one of their t-shrts in a section about Apple and product design. 🙂

Without letters
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perfect.

Have you printed it out and used actual tippex?

It wouldn't take 2 minutes to create a vector version of that "graph" and that would be high quality even if you were printing on A2 sheets.
Why do you need it?

I need it as an illustration in my book I am writing - cheers!

Here you go. In Excel. So easy I don't see why everybody else is giving you such grief.

Blimey aracer, you'd do that for just a credit?

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Mac numbers aren't a very good way of drawing pictures I could only do one curve sorry

Go on then I'll fall for it 🙂

[url= http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/6967011549_e531d6feef_o.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/6967011549_e531d6feef_o.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/58162507@N07/6967011549/ ]STW Art - 10 Min Drawing[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/58162507@N07/ ]SGMTB[/url], on Flickr

Mail Me if you want anything changed 🙂

and a bit bigger 🙂 Its now vector if you want it in a different format.

[url= http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7056/6967018957_1afc2ab0c6_o.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7056/6967018957_1afc2ab0c6_o.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/58162507@N07/6967018957/ ]graph bigger[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/58162507@N07/ ]SGMTB[/url], on Flickr

That is excellent! Do you have it in a bigger version but without the shadows? Amazing - at last!

Also - what would you like me to put as a credit?

See - it is amazing what STW can collectively achieve - doesn't this give everyone a warm Friday glow of happiness ready for the weekend?

Bit of a weird graph, looks like something someone's drawn without really understanding what a parabola is...

do not have the equations that generated this. It is more a case that people such as Albert of Saxony conceived of the motion as having three distinct phases, especially seen in path A F G O B.

So it is a parabola (ish) drawn by someone who didn't know what a parabola is

Here you Simon... are you still in Gib ?

[url= http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7195/6820926084_2e0f537fd3_o.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7195/6820926084_2e0f537fd3_o.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/58162507@N07/6820926084/ ]graph bigger no shadow[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/58162507@N07/ ]SGMTB[/url], on Flickr

Credit would be nice... up to you 🙂

Dobbo's post is worth the license fee alone.

Do you think we should have a monthly prize giving where the forum bestows a premiumz membershipz for a post?

Hiya - no I'm not in Gib - I left in 2009. Since then I went to do my MSc in Totnes for a year, went into the rainforests in Peru for a bit, wrote my dissertation in Brazil, came back for a knee op, went back to Brazil for a few months teaching English, then discovered I had 4 days to leave in November and can't get back to be with my fiancee until May. Hence I am having some free time staying at my folks, writing my book.

I don't have any income right now, hence I have no budget to pay for illustrations, but if you have a paypal account I will happily send over a couple of beer tokens for your efforts : )

McLovin' this thread!

@simonralli2

I'll send you a mail later. Actually I cant 🙁 your mail is not in the profile.

I'll help you with some illustrations 🙂

Mail me if your interested.
tractorsglos AT gmail DOT com

Dobbo for [s]Prime Minister[/s] Global Ruler 😀 (with Mrs Toast as left hand lady, obviously).

😳

A little bump so that the evening crowd can enjoy the great artistic talents of STW!

Well,

I've read the entire thread and I'm damned if I know what Excel has to do with anything?

I don't think any publisher will want this graph with a silhouette of that chap on his mountain bike with Mrs Flash added basket, rainbow and stars.

It was Mrs Toast (although I'm sure she's too polite to correct you 😉 )
Really sorry, but I have nothing positive to add to the thread but Dobbo . . . that's class 😆 😆

Simon. I can do it in Illustrator..why do you need Excel? Is it to show the data?

Excellent work Dobbo. The bar has now been raised. I was working on something like DezB's, but failed.
Anyone got tips for getting Tippex off the screen? 😳

David

Hi - I didn't need it in Excel - I was assuming that you used some kind of equation to draw the graph. I am not a graphics person so have no idea how you create these things!

For some of the ones I have done, I have created them on Keynote. I have to say though, for all this talk about Macs being good for creative people, the amount of art on there is dire. I always need to use curved arrows, and none seem to exist at all! Useless!

Oh and apologies to Mrs Toast. That original thread was a long time ago!

I do not have the equations that generated this.

It didn't come from an equation. If you think they were modelling real world trajectories with algebra and plotting them on graphs before Gallileo then you need a maths history lesson 🙂

EDIT: I haven't looked this up so am ready prepared with a hanky to wipe the possible egg from my face.

Sorry - I meant the equations that generated the diagram : )

I'm still laughing at damo's - can't believe that wasn't ideal!

Don't use jpeg use SVG or post script.

Sorry - I meant the equations that generated the diagram : )

I think that's the point, there aren't any equations which generate the diagram. Well, there probably are, but they're a lot more complicated than the reality the original artists/draughtsmen wanted to model.

Have a look if you can find some suitble curves to aproximate the curve in here

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PSdWuoORYhEC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

This book is avaible online in pdf form too somewhere.

I like the liquid paper one, proper sketchy. Looks like our rota at work.