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Say what you will about Snyder, the intro to The Watchmen is the best intro to a film EVER. AND it’s one of those few films that’s actually better than the books that it’s based on without pissing all over the original content.
Anything with Steven Seagal or Jean-Claude Van Damme in it.
JCVD was supposed to be very good. But Seagal is a Putin stooge and degenerate, so I won't be defending his oeuvre...
Think I must have been living under a rock, didn’t realise Ghostbusters had been remade…disappointing end to the holiday week!
The Menu was pretty good though 👍
They don’t seem to have spent any of the budget on writers
That’s Star Wars all over. Script duties should have been given to screenwriters who actually know how to write proper dialogue.
Watch Men was an overly long filler fest of ZS tropes.
Having read the original graphic novel in its first print serialised version, and also bought the large format novel, I thought the film stuck pretty much to the original story, which really didn’t need much doing, it was story-boarded for him.
Sucker Punch was the same.
I really enjoyed Sucker Punch, the underlying concept reminded me very much of a book I have called When Rabbit Howls.
It’s not a cheerful book, involving extreme child abuse, and abuse of family pets; a very recent court case involving the abuse of family pets and their killing afterwards shows it’s not limited to fantasy.
This is the worst film I've seen that was nominated for an Oscar, but for Barbara Harris, not Dustin Hoffman. The script was just lazy, indulgent, predictable nonsense.
AND it’s one of those few films that’s actually better than the books that it’s based on without pissing all over the original content.
In what way? Personally I don't mind if films based on comics or books go off on a different tangent - as they are different mediums after all. The problem I found with the Watchman movie was that it tried to stick to comic too closely (some shots were literally frame for frame for the comic book) while simultaneously missing huge chunks of it out, and changing the ending; which made no sense.
If I remember correctly there was a huge pressure on Synder from some pretty verbal super-fans ultimately holding him to ransom to make a movie-copy of the comic book, which it is, but duller for all that. The series IMO was a much better take on the "who guards the guards" question.
Has Predator 2017 been nominated yet?
Lucy. The worst thing Ive ever seen.
What happens when a French producer has finally understood what it takes to please a Hollywood audience. The French film with the highest take outside France. And yes, it's nonsense.
Watchmen the movie looked great yet he still managed to lose the essence of the comics. He basically made Rorschach in to a hero. I don’t know what graphic novel he read to end up with that particular take away. The novel is extremely cynical, movie is a standard super hero movie in the hands of Snyder.
AND it’s one of those few films that’s actually better than the books that it’s based on without pissing all over the original content.
You know what definitely falls into this camp? The Godfather. Having loved the film I read the book and it is absolutely dreadful. Same basic story, including the horse's head stuff, but really badly written, sub-airport-novel pap. Mr Copola did however wisely omit the ongoing 'subplot' about a female character having a spacious vagina and the subsequent surgery to tighten it up (I kid you not)
What happens when a French producer has finally understood what it takes to please a Hollywood audience.
Are you just pretending Leon and The Fifth Element don't exist now?
Think I must have been living under a rock, didn’t realise Ghostbusters had been remade…disappointing end to the holiday week!
Wait a minute. Aside from Ghostbusters 2, there have been two semi-recent films. To which are you referring?
There was an all-female lead Ghostbusters which was ostensibly a remake. It roundly got a critical drubbing, partly because it wasn't great and partly because, well, the Patriarchy is fragile. To my mind it was worth the price of entry for Holtzmann.
More recently there was Afterlife which is the true (excuse me) spiritual successor to the original and is just glorious in every way possible.
‘The Boys’ just blew all that out of the water though, by several magnitudes.
I don't want to know what The Deep is blowing out of the water, thanks.
More recently there was Afterlife which is the true (excuse me) spiritual successor to the original and is just glorious in every way possible.
Guessing it's worth a watch then? Have been holding off unless it disappoints me as much as 2016 (although I agree with you as regards the Holtzmann character - only thing remotely close to the originals in terms of tone and enjoyment).
Watched Renegades on Amazon last night.
It was so bad I wondered if it was dubbed.
Everything about it is awful - so awful that I concluded it was made bad on purpose.
Parts of it looked like a Spitting Image sketch.
Couldn't switch it off it was so bad 😀
Are you just pretending Leon and The Fifth Element don’t exist now?
No, just that Lucy was the point at which Besson went full Hollywood nonsense and made his most successful film outside of France; the biggest grossing French film of all time. My own Besson favourites are Subway and Le Grand Bleu, both have plausibility, excellent scripts and a lack of explosions/effects that failed to fill theatres outside of France. Lucy which was the biggest grossing French film outside France only just makes the top 100 grossing films in France at 100th whereas Le Grand Bleu is 15th. 9 million went to see Le grand Bleu in France and just 900 000 in the US.
I'm not a very good cinema goer. To enjoy a film I need it to be coherent and plausible within the context of the fictional world presented. You'll note that my own worst films include Star Wars because the longer I watched the more time I spent thinking "this is nonsense, this world doesn't add up" - I walked out shaking my head. You might say that the Fifth Element world was equally ridiculous, maybe, but it was also very funny, I was entertained and watched to the end.
Guessing it’s worth a watch then?
Oh god yes. It's proper fan service and the first worthy sequel to the original. They've announced a second film and I cannot wait.
Same basic story, including the horse’s head stuff, but really badly written, sub-airport-novel pap
See also, Jaws.
Trouble is, the book section you describe about Mr Corleone and his lady friend's physical features pops into my head whenever I watch that bit of the movie, even though I've not picked up the book for 30 years.
Say what you will about Snyder, the intro to The Watchmen is the best intro to a film EVER. AND it’s one of those few films that’s actually better than the books that it’s based on without pissing all over the original content.
It's almost a polished shot for shot remake of the comic & has no soul & completely misses the point with the changed ending. The recent HBO series set in the same universe was a much better adaptation in terms of soul & spirit of the comic.
the biggest grossing French film of all time.
I think you'd be hard-pressed to claim that Lucy is a "French movie", apart from a French director, and finance neither of leads are French, it's not in French, or about France, or primarily set in France, yes there are scenes in Paris, but there are also scenes in Taipei and that doesn't make it a Taiwanese film either.
Le Grand Bleu
My brother; he is a world champion
I recognised places outside of Paris as well, some quite well known. ; Sure they filmed scenes all over the globe but the vast majority of the footage was filmed on location in France or in French studios.
I watched it in French, other languages are possible: English, Mandarin, German, Italian, Spanish, Korean. So we have French finance, French director, French studio, mainly French locations and some admittedly shitty acting by foreigners needed to sell to the Americans. And you claim it ain't French. On your criteria there aren't many (if any) British Bond films. 😉 But yeah, it has that crappy Hollywood feel which is why it was a box office hit in spite of being a French film.
And it wasn't a film I want to sit through again, Smogmonster isn't wrong. 🙂
Cougar
Guessing it’s worth a watch then?
Oh god yes. It’s proper fan service and the first worthy sequel to the original. They’ve announced a second film and I cannot wait.
Resurrecting the thread just to say thanks to @Cougar. Watched Afterlife tonight and thought it was great. Reminded me a fair bit of Super8 which is a good thing.
Fun, lots of fan service and a big heart. As I'd avoided it previously, even the 'surprise' at the end of the third act worked for me. Plus bonus points for possibly annoying the anti-woke brigade with a wonderful ASD lead character (and even more bonus points for not virtue signalling that fact at all).
Evita and Species. Walked out of the cinema for both.
Anything with Steven Seagal or Jean-Claude Van Damme in it.
How dare anyone mention The Room, it's one of my all time favourites. I went to a screening with Wiseau and Greg Sistero, got the selfie, Tommy and Greg did a Q&A, audience howled with laughter, shouted and screamed the entire film, threw plastic spoons at the screen on cue, pure entertainment.
Something seems to have gone very wrong with the last 10 years of film output though. Injecting "Progressive" political messages into scripts, castings etc doesn't make for good movies.
I'm sure its been mentioned on the thread already but Top Gun Maverick is truly awful
Watched it last night - what a waste of an opportunity. Rubbish script, rubbish plot, rubbish acting, rubbish characters......even the air combat scenes were pretty meh. The cinematography was awful too - tried to go for a homage to the original but completely missed the boat
I know the original wasn't Shakespeare but it at least it hung together, was well filmed and had a bit of humour and jeopardy
Certainly a contender for worst film ever given the budget
Bringing things bang up to date, The Bricklayer was hopeless. Poor script, hopeless and misogynistic characters (especially the star). An action flick by numbers!
Certainly a contender for worst film ever given the budget
May I recommend Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, to sir?
No, I'd disagree, the Dial of Destiny wasn't great (are you expect much though) but it was a final return to form for the character, and nothing like a terrible as the crystal skull dross.
+1 for GB afterlife being pretty damned good (I enjoyed Rudd's enthusiasm), I haven't even bothered with that remake, why would you spoil a great/fun film like that (also see Taxi for the same shocking activity)
PS: I enjoyed Lucy 😀
PPS: Rebel Moon, it was pretty but total crap, has no one ever seen "Battle for the stars" (or any of the other seven samurais remakes). Snyder was rumoured to be looking at Rogue trooper pre-covid, lets hope he forgot about it
Sorry if it's been mentioned before in this thread, but I watched 'Armageddon' on TV on Saturday night. Worst film I've seen for a long time. Utter garbage. So bad it was funny.
I’m not a very good cinema goer. To enjoy a film I need it to be coherent and plausible within the context of the fictional world presented. You’ll note that my own worst films include Star Wars because the longer I watched the more time I spent thinking “this is nonsense, this world doesn’t add up” – I walked out shaking my head.
I'm the same, I think about films too much while I'm watching them. This is the reason I gave up on A Quiet Place when I tried watching it last week - I was losing patience with the utter stupidity of everything about this film, but the final straw was when Emily Blunt was hanging her washing on the line and pegged up a perfectly ironed, box-fresh tea-towel. A year and a half after a massive apocalypse and her tea-towels are in a better condition than mine!
Anyway, I always wonder whether the problem with Star Wars is that the 'rebels' are in fact the baddies and we are supporting the wrong side. The Star Wars world always seems well-functioning and affluent until the rebels turn up, and they really love a good Fascist parade... 😀
This is the reason I gave up on A Quiet Place when I tried watching it last week – I was losing patience with the utter stupidity of everything about this film, but the final straw was when Emily Blunt was hanging her washing on the line and pegged up a perfectly ironed, box-fresh tea-towel.
The premise of these particular aliens defeating the entire armies of the world but somehow being vulnerable to a squeaky noise and a shotgun in the gob was troubling.
I haven’t even bothered with that remake, why would you spoil a great/fun film like that
If you haven't watched it then you are unqualified to comment. 😁
Ghostbusters 2016 wasn't by any measure a great film. But I think the kicking it received wasn't wholly deserved. There were plenty who had already made up their mind - as above - before they'd watched it. Melissa McCarthy is truly dreadful, she's irritating as all hell in every scene she's in. Chris Hemsworth is good but it's a one-trick joke stretched waaaaay too thin. But it has its merits, there are some cute Easter Eggs and as I've said before it's worth the price of entry for Kate McKinnon.
@failedengineer I believe I may have mentioned it and the fact that it caused some marital disharmony! 🙂
How dare you diss Mandy
Are we talking about the Ghostbusters with the kids? If so, I went into that with really, REALLY low expectations and was really pleasantly surprised. It was not a bad film and dealt with a dead lead actor from the originals in a good way.
Something seems to have gone very wrong with the last 10 years of film output though. Injecting “Progressive” political messages into scripts, castings etc doesn’t make for good movies.
ahh its all a woke conspiracy
[insert eyeroll gif here]
Are we talking about the Ghostbusters with the kids?
No, that's Afterlife.
The 2016 movie, the bottom half of the Internet went full Andrew Tate because it had women in it.
The 2016 movie, the bottom half of the Internet went full Andrew Tate because it had women in it.
my kids really liked the 2016 film, Afterlife was good, but a bit too heavy on pushing the nostalgia buttons
And... Snyder isn't attached to it, but Rogue Trooper seems to actually be finally happening (albeit in a low budget, animated way).
I realised while scrolling through Netflix that it's quite possible that no one has yet discovered the true worst film ever.
With every week that goes past the number of low budget, made for streaming films seems to increase. Along with stuff dredged up from the darker recesses of the low royalty back catalogues.
The even worse bit is you start watching something and then give up on it 3 minutes later because it's a load of festering yak vomit and then a week later...
Because you watched festering yak vomit you might also like ...
- Steaming horse manure
- 50 first dates (with Louise)
- Hamsternado 17
- Etc.
Not a moan about Netflix as there's some really good stuff out there too but just one bad five minutes of watching the wrong thing and you're at risk of being sucked into a spiral of awfulness.
Meanwhile, for Ghostbusters: Afterlife fans,
And… Snyder isn’t attached to it, but Rogue Trooper seems to actually be finally happening (albeit in a low budget, animated way).
Have you seen Warcraft? It's "low budget, animated" by the same director, it's pretty good!