Work site safety notice after colleague "nearly" hurt by speeding bike

walk the 15m?

Do you need to tell work you were "nearly" hurt by a car on the site's roads, that passed you with less than 1.5 metre clearance? 😉

Are the pathways on the site officially shared use?

A few years ago, one of the daily lorries was about to leave our car park and apparently nearly hit a colleague cycling into the car park. The conclusion as to who was at fault was never discussed, but suddenly there was a blanket ban on cycling through the car park to get to or leave the bike shed, cyclists had to push their bike through the car park.

Was colleague glued to their phone not paying any notice to their surroundings? Site services took the easiest option, without doing their due diligence, pretty standard unfortunately.

I got whinged at by site services for not using the bike sheds, I pointed out they were being used as storage for all the stuff they couldn't find a home for, the lock on their was pathetic, no cctv and the access door is hidden round a corner. Needless to say they backed down  and I'll continue as I am!

walk the 15m?

This. Or just ride it at walking speed so that you aren't endangering anyone else.

I would gently go back and suggest it would benefit all to simply ask cyclists to walk the 15m to the cycle shed.

For a more awkward response, go back and ask if they can supply the risk assessment they filled in / added to. You can then edit and send back with the added risk assessment for the cyclists who now run the gauntlet...

next time pay more attention - if you are going to nearly hit people on your bike make sure it’s not the CEO or HSE manager!

a 15m long bit from the road to the cycle sheds.

Got a link to it on Strava? Sounds epic.

walk the 15m?

^^Was my first thought too TBH.

Plus don't forget the "Hierarchy of road users" applies to Bicycle users and Pedestrians.
You do actually have a duty of care to those on foot when on a bike, same as you would expect (hope) for from Car/van/HGV drivers.

I would gently go back and suggest it would benefit all to simply ask cyclists to walk the 15m to the cycle shed.

For a more awkward response, go back and ask if they can supply the risk assessment they filled in / added to. You can then edit and send back with the added risk assessment for the cyclists who now run the gauntlet…

^^Also This^^

Feels like offering a pragmatic compromise might do you more good than playing the Arse with management...

Ignoring for a minute the clunky way this has been implemented, is it actually so unreasonable to ask people to not cycle on a shared use path? If it is only 15m, then pushing your bike alongside foot pedestrians does not seem so unreasonable.

Ask to see the risk assessment

Id be awkward about this.  Got any union representation?  If not it might be a good idea.  Matts point about asking for the risk assessment sounds like a good one as well.

There is no way on earth I would be taking the longer more dangerous route.  Point out how dangerous it is.  Ask if the other vehicles are going to make way for the bikes?  Ask about their active travel policy etc etc

Plus don’t forget the “Hierarchy of road users” applies to Bicycle users and Pedestrians.
You do actually have a duty of care to those on foot when on a bike, same as you would expect (hope) for from Car/van/HGV drivers.

Yeah, let's not forget this

Bloody speeding cyclists!! Can they not have speed limiters fitted!!? 😀

I thought paths were for walking on, not cycling ?

lazy bloody cyclist cant be arsed using the roads as they are supposed to and taking short cuts cause its less effort

and from the other thread speed KILLS, so anything above walking speed is clearly lethal.

We've just had two well used bike sheds closed for maybe 6 plus months, because my employer is routing car park traffic down a service road during building works, so as the shelters are off the 'service road', colleagues in cars can't be trusted not to run cyclists over, sheds closed until further notice.

Despite my employer being rated very 'green' on sustainability, cycling still remains 'lip service'. I get changed in a disabled loo, and have to dry my kit on a small electric radiator. There are next to no useful facilities.

Turn the cards - we've a service road between buildings, it's still a public highway, but a shared path crosses it, with clearly defined 'give way' for vehicles to adhere to, so pedestrians and cyclists have priority. Does my employer do anything about it, nope, despite numerous complaints about drivers not stopping - I've complained a few times when I've nearly got run over - PS even 'humps' don't stop the drivers.   One rule etc.

and from the other thread speed KILLS, so anything above walking speed is clearly lethal.

Clearly the straw men are the bigger threat.

have to dry my kit on a small electric radiator.

...and I'd like to see the risk assessment for that, as well!

Carbraintastic.

"Cyclists must dismount" sign at the gate - job done. Would go back to them and ask them to be sensible. Maybe they just haven't considered the alternatives.

I’m ignoring it

I would...

I have replied

... but you haven't. 😁

To be fair, doing something pro-active after a near-miss is good H&S, assuming the path isn't really suited to pedestrians and bikes at the same time.

But really, 15m, just walk it. Why is this even an issue? Our bike racks must be 15m long, should we be complaining that it's unreasonable?

Total non issue . Talk above of involving unions ? Lets all waste everyone's time and efforts on something that is basically a non issue.  Bloody hell its simple. take the long dangerous route.......or walk the 15m.

Now if someone pulls you up on walking your bike for 15m , then you have an issue, otherwise just suck it up buttercup 🙂

Learn to wheelie, then you’re riding a unicycle not a bicycle. Problem solved.

My reading of the OP  is that bikes are no longer allowed on the path full stop - ie not even if pushed and have to take a longer more dangerous route instead

If the instruction is "walk your bike down the path" it might be reasonable  But thats not how I read the OP

walk the 15m?

**** that!
Notice how no-one ever puts up a sign asking drivers to get out and push the last 15m into the car parking space?

It is an assumption on my part, but my reading of it is that the OP has received this email and immediately got on their high horse and thinks that all bikes are now banned from coming in that entrance ( sort of thing my wife likes to do , fly off the handle without actually getting the whole story 😉

(In case I was wrong , i  had added the caveat about having a proper issue if they take umbrage about them walking their bike)

doing something pro-active after a near-miss is good H&S,

The OP said "a note has gone round" - what note, how did it go round, on what authority? Is it official company policy? Official site policy? Is it written into the staff handbook?

More likely it's passive-aggressive nonsense and will never be mentioned again.

Notice how no-one ever puts up a sign asking drivers to get out and push the last 15m into the car parking space?

Are they driving along a pavement/path?

Id be awkward about this.

Of course you would.

Got any union representation?  If not it might be a good idea.

The world's gone mad

🤷🏻‍♂️

Thin end of the slippery slope innit

LOLz

Are they driving along a pavement/path?

Car parks are, by their very nature, "shared space". You park and then walk to the office / supermarket / station etc. Sometimes there are marked "walkways" (most of which are thoroughly ignored and have to be driven over anyway to actually get into a parking spot), much of the time it's simply walking past, around and alongside parked and moving cars.

Honestly, any H&S assessment for cars would end in horrified WTAF?!! and lots of red lines in a risk register.
But because that is "normal" it's just unchecked. Carry on.

Willing to bet if someone was "nearly hurt" by a car turning across them, there'd be a warning note for pedestrians to look where they're going. Not the poor innocent driver, oh no.

15 metres, just walk the bike as others say, our site is quite large, we have paths that you can cycle, and paths you can't, it's common sense, some are busier than others and short, some are longer and not used much (perimeter paths), if a notes gone out, just obey, it's a work site, not a bridleway.

Outside our site we have a dual pedestrian / cycle path, it's horrific to watch as there's a bit too many commuting warriors flying down there full pelt and lots of pedestrians, who as we all know are unpredictable at best, in this argument, cyclists are the ones who need to take more care unfortunately, same with cars against cyclists, and if someone on your site has clipped a worker, then there's no point blaming H&S, motorists or whatever, it's down to that cyclist not taking care.

Learn to wheelie, then you’re riding a unicycle not a bicycle. Problem solved.

No no no. Switzerland squeaker is what you want.

Compromise, where everyone leaves the table feeling slightly let down.

A sign stating " Cyclists must travel at walking pace from this point and give way to peds " at the fence, gate or whatever. Solving all problems simultaneously.

A sign stating ” Cyclists must travel at walking pace from this point and give way to peds ” at the fence, gate or whatever. Solving all problems simultaneously.

It's 15 metres, it would take just as long to read the sign than walk the bike to the cycle stands, i think you just take this one on the chin, again, it's a worksite and if the accident has to be treated appropriately.

Ask for the risk analysis of asking cyclists to use the roads. This will either fix the problem or results in all bikes being banned.

I worked at an operational airfield where you weren’t allowed to walk, run or cycle on the perimeter road which crossed the runway - fast jets would do low passes, touch and go and the occasional full-afterburner, stand on the tail job which would potentially render anyone underneath a bit “crispy” - elf’n’safety gone mad I tell you 🤯

A note’s gone around at work after a colleague was ‘nearly’ hurt by a cyclist using one of the paths going ‘at speed’

Odds on it was an 'electric bike' 😂

Related:

https://twitter.com/gazza_d/status/1673426345508872195?t=Mp-4govOR2SZJVJ9OH-0zw&s=19

As per my point earlier. Bikes are easy to blame. Love how they can both be going "at speed" but also so slowly that they hold up all the traffic...

I think @gazza_d is unnecessarily snippy and condescending to the headteacher, about who none of us know anything. The head can't ban cars from driving up and down the street so they've done what they can in that respect, and written to the parents and asked them not to. There's no reason to immediately assume the head is a carbrained drone, or that the letter is the only thing that is being done.

I don't think this issue is a time for us to break out the victim card for cyclists, if they'd banned bikes from the site then it would be, same with the whataboutery regarding cars, all for the sake of walking the bike 15 metres, christ i do that regular to take the bag off my back, lock out the bag and so on before getting to the bike shelter anyway.

Again - my reading of the OP is that they have banned cyclists from using this path at all forcing them onto busy roads with dangerous junctions not just stating please walk your bike or give way to pedestrians or something similar and sensible

But we need Pook to come back and confirm

I rode into our site the wrong way once - can't remember why but I had a reason. Into the exit at walking pace, slowed to check for cars coming up the extremely wide and easy to see entrance. No cars, eased my way to the bike shed (prob about 15m 🙂 )
Locked bike up walked up to the ped entrance where the security guard stepped out and said "You can't ride in that way, it's dangerous!" I replied "I went slowly and carefully".. in his best Sgt Major voice, the man responded with "IT'S THE ROOOOOOLLZZZ!!!" He was really serious I tell ya! Brilliant, can still hear it in my head every time I come on site, but no matter what, never the wrong way, oh no sireee 😆