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Right. Left a job a couple of years ago due to a tyrannical director. Did a while at somewhere else then got a different job back at the old place. Totally different team but boss is a cracking bloke who i have a lot of time for ...but...the work is as dull as ditchwater.
But...when starting was immediately seconded back to my old team (old director was sacked anout 9 months ago) to recover the mess they made after I left.
But...but...the boss in the secondment really wants me to stay (she had left in similar circumstances to me and is now back full time). New director inbound but not landed yet.
The work is way more interesting in the team I'm in now.
But...but...but... I really don't want to let the original hiring manager down.
What to do?
What's going to be better for you long-term?
If it was me, I'd be going for the job that's actually enjoyable/interesting as the boring job will get old quick and you're just going to leave anyway.
Do whats right for you, I'd stay in the seconded role but try and keep my options open in case the new director is another knob. Might be the sort that comes in demanding massive improvement not realising how much improvement has already been made and takes no notice of how hard the existing team have already worked, or they may be a cracking boss who supports and enables the team to greater things.
But…but…but… I really don’t want to let the original hiring manager down.
**** 'em. Do what's right for you.
You'll be replaced, no-one will care. They'd bin you in a heartbeat if it was in the company's best interests.
So the team you are in now (your old job) has a new manager coming in?
Do you have to make a decision now? The new manager may be as much trouble as your the one who caused you to leave before.
**** ’em. Do what’s right for you.
This. The hiring manager didn't do it as a favour to you did they? They did it for the business or themselves. You don't owe them.
I would suggest its up to the managers to sort out really. If the one that hired you wants you back and the one you were seconded to wants to keep you then thats a managerial issue for them to sort out
If you want to stay in one post or the other then you state your preference but its still a managerial decision which role you take
If you end up staying in the seconded role and you want to feel better have a chat with the hiring manager and apologise " I am grateful for you hiring me, I am sorry I got seconded away, it was not my intention to leave you high and dry"
I've been in the same position as your "secondment manager" a couple of times where we had borrowed someone that we wanted to keep in the team. A grown up conversation with the other manager (same one twice - oops) and hr sorted everything out.
Go with what's best for you - the other team (either one) will get over it faster than you can believe.
I’m with cougar on this.
look after yourself.
but remember life rule #1
Came here to say exactly the same as TJ. Managers issue.
Managers issue.
Not really or it would be a done deal. As it is I'm being asked to choose as both sides know they couldn't hang on to me if I want to go the other way
Chuck it back at them then. " I don't mind, where am I more needed?" Thats poor management to make you sort out their problems. Or use it as an opportunity to take the role you want
cougar has a good point as well
**** ’em. Do what’s right for you.
You’ll be replaced, no-one will care. They’d bin you in a heartbeat if it was in the company’s best interests.
This is the only answer, ever, anywhere. You can stay for fun, or for cash, or because you like the people, but don't do something you don't want to because you feel guilty as that will only end badly
you'll spend around 2000 hours this year at work; that's about 1/3 of your waking hours.
Why on earth would you want to spend it doing something boring, just to avoid upsetting a manager that would drop you in a heartbeat if they had to.
If you can come up with GOOD reasons, write them down here and I might change my mind.
It’s a no-brainer to me. Do the job you enjoy, thank the original manager who gave you the opportunity.
cougar has a good point as well
Had to happen eventually. 😁
Seriously, this isn't even "I've had a job offer," it's internal politics. The last time I changed roles internally it was a done deal, I was given no say in the matter.
(And ofc, as Jonba says, is either department going to get their hand in their pocket to keep / appropriate you?)
but…the work is as dull as ditchwater.
I only posted to say that I never realised that was another version of the saying. I always thought it was dish water. Apparently both are correct, which one you use depends on which side of 1900 you were born. Thanks for making me Google that, I've learnt something new.
The hiring manager probably isn't going to be qs cut up about it as you think. You've already been gone...
A decent manager will want you to be happy. You know you’ll pay them back when the opportunity arises.
You live once. Do what you enjoy.
It's more of a choice for the business than for you, so don't stress.
Just echoing the above really. You've got to do what is best for you. Its up the management to decide what is best for the company. Go for the better job in your view, let them sort out the rest