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[Closed] Words are cheap. What is the Royal Family really contributing?

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I think I understand you.

I doubt you do.


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 12:21 pm
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Not even that. 69p per tax payer last year.

Thats minus security. Which as the daily hate and co have newly found out with regards to Harry adds up to rather a lot.

Because the Monarchy still has lots of powers, The current one chooses not to use them.

Which in itself is an argument against them. What if Charlie decides to really stick his oar in and start interfering with things he doesnt have the capabilities for?


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 12:24 pm
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What if Charlie decides to really stick his oar in and start interfering with things he doesnt have the capabilities for again?

FTFY


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 12:28 pm
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Because the Monarchy still has lots of powers, The current one chooses not to use them. For example, the Prime Minister is appointed by the Queen. Parliament can only be dissolved by the Queen. The military reports to the Queen. There is nothing is law stopping the Queen from dissolving parliament and/or refusing to allow the winner of the general election to take office and taking us back to pre parliament days. There is nothing in law stopping the Queen from using the military to do anything she wants. The only reason she doesnt is convention and the inevitable crisis that would be bad for the royal gravy train.

Based on my limited rememberings of Alevel politics, doesn’t the monarchy do as it’s told as the government has the power to disband it, should it require? So yes the monarch chooses not to exert power, in the same way that I choose to go to work?


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 12:30 pm
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Which in itself is an argument against them. What if Charlie decides to really stick his oar in and start interfering with things he doesnt have the capabilities for?

Then we kill him. Royalty know the score. As long as they remain apolitical and keep it ceremonial they keep the HoS gig. The day they deviate from that they get deposed and we adopt something else.


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 12:32 pm
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I doubt you do.

You are absolutely 100% correct on that one.


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 12:33 pm
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**** all.

Get rid of the monarchy though and you start to call into question the rest of the inherited privilege system. That's never going to happen in the UK. The Labour Party occasionally witter about dismantling the HoL but never do anything when in power and are happy to swan about with their Lordships and Ladyships given half a chance.

Now is probably the best time to abolish, or at least severely curtail, the whole Royalty scam. Let the current monarch live out the role and instigate change before the next one.


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 12:40 pm
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You are absolutely 100% correct on that one.

Is it because you lack the ability to argue coherently that you decide to play the man, not the ball.

Quite pleased with the appropriate use of a footballing metaphor here


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 12:43 pm
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Hmm. Could we just subsidise them via CrowdFunding?


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 12:48 pm
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Is it because you lack the ability to argue coherently that you decide to play the man, not the ball.

Hmmm, I see it as a disagreement over a point of view, but if you view someone not sharing your point of view as having a lack of ability to argue coherently then yes, I am that man.

You win the internet today. Congratulations, have a biscuit.


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 1:52 pm
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Let's look at it another way.

If we didn't have a monarch and a Royal Family with the powers to over-ride democracy, would we legislate to create that system?


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 5:26 pm
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Then we kill him. Royalty know the score. As long as they remain apolitical and keep it ceremonial they keep the HoS gig. The day they deviate from that they get deposed and we adopt something else.

They're not apolitical and ceremonial though - the Queen has a chat with the PM every single week, and unless they're talking about the footie results (which I somehow doubt) they're discussing political events, and one thing I don't doubt is that when it's Charlie's turn he'll be sharing all the wisdom and intelligence 100's of years of inbreeding and entitlement gets you.


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 5:31 pm
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Then we kill him. Royalty know the score

Which renders them pointless no? Since the argument seems to be we need them to step in if necessary but if they do they die.
Also as others have pointed out I did skip over how they do actively interfere. Its not just queenies chats with the PM or Charlie mouthing off about bad architecture (whilst I dont disagree with some of his comments a)they shouldnt have any real weight just because of his birth and b)have you seen Poundbury? Ugly as hell) but the other interference in our system. Like how bills impacting them have to be sent to them for review without being in the public domain.
Hence why as poor as the law protecting leaseholders is those who fall under charlies duchy are even worse off.


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 6:18 pm
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Not even that. 69p per tax payer last year.

On balance I think I'd rather have my 69p


 
Posted : 07/04/2020 6:29 pm
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