[Closed] Wood burning stove in a log cabin garden office

Will a portable stove meet any relevant regulations?

I'm guessing you mean something like a Frontier Stove?

That's the sort of thing I was thinking about. Need to check on building regs I guess ...

If you're going to be working in there all day, get a decent fan heater for instant heat from cold and an oil rad for cheaper, nicer, quieter heat.

I go to the shed, click the heaters on, have breakfast with the kids then go back out and start work.

Bugger lighting fires, lugging wood around and keeping it fed all day make a workspace bearably warm. And a small one will be less efficient, need a lot more feeding and all the door openings will have you working in a smoky environment all day long.

Has there ever been a more 'stw' thread title than this?! 😂

^^^indeed. My assumption was that the pizza oven would do most of the heating?

I go to the shed, click the heaters on, have breakfast with the kids then go back out and start work.

I'm sure you could get some app to turn a heater on from the comfort of your kitchen

Has there ever been a more ‘stw’ thread title than this?!

Which coffee machine to go with my wood burner in my garden office?

Need to check on building regs I guess

Do building reg's actually apply if its just a "temporary garden structure"?
If questioned surely it's just a "fancy Shed" obviously when you have people round it's your "hand crafted, artisanal log cabin"...

But if you're already running leccy out to it for the Mac Book, I'd be inclined to just put an oil filled Rad on a timer in there... Otherwise it's a lot of work to install a relatively faffy way to heat a shed (for what ~4 months of the year? - assuming you're in Blighty), plus you can bet a neighbour will complain eventually...

Bugger lighting fires, lugging wood around and keeping it fed all day make a workspace bearably warm. And a small one will be less efficient, need a lot more feeding and all the door openings will have you working in a smoky environment all day long.

While I wouldn't have a stove as my office heater.....have you ever had a working stove.

If you’re going to be working in there all day, get a decent fan heater for instant heat from cold and an oil rad for cheaper, nicer, quieter heat.

I go to the shed, click the heaters on, have breakfast with the kids then go back out and start work.

Bugger lighting fires, lugging wood around and keeping it fed all day make a workspace bearably warm.

All of this.

Lol!
Have I reached peak stw??
The next thread was genuinely going to be 'which coffee machine'
🙂

I built one a couple of years ago and planned to put a stove in but changed my mind mainly due to the fact that it gets used intermittently through the winter (although covid means I have worked in it almost everyday since March) and lighting and extinguishing it each time I went in would be a faff and I would be worried it was burning for ages after I left.
My mate put one in his large garage but seldom used once the novelty wore off.
Something that switches on and off is probably more practical.

Edit. As above I have an oil filled radiator on a timer.

I have a stove (old wood-fired range from the 50's) in the room I use as an office in our house. It's an old house and that was there from new, something to do with when it was a farmhouse...

Anyway, during winter I have to use the stove to keep the office warm. It takes a while to get up to heat, but then uses wood at a frightening rate and usually gets the room too warm, and that's in Sweden in winter (currently about -10 at the house).

If you can get a decent oil filled radiator, it would probably work better for keeping a single, insulated room at stable temperature. Seriously, it beats having to use half a tree every day.

Do building reg’s actually apply if its just a “temporary garden structure”?

Pretty certain carbon monoxide poising or burning the place down still apply even if it is a fancy temporary structure......

If you haven't built it yet then is there still time to look at insulation? Absolutely no need for a wood burner unless it is off grid in the middle of nowhere.

The next thread was genuinely going to be ‘which coffee machine’

For efficiency, this one. https://www.ferrari-espresso.com/product/ascaso-steel-duo-twin-boilers-prof-new-ex-ascaso-factory-stock/

And one of these to go with it https://www.ferrari-espresso.com/product/ascaso-i-2-on-demand-doser-ex-ascaso-factory-stock-with-conical-burrs-light-blue/

You can thank me later.

No building regs needed:

href="https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/43/outbuildings/2"

But yes to carbon monoxide and protecting a wooden structure from fire.
The roof and floor will be insulated.

I think that a stove is a nice to have but my wife considers it an essential! Discussions are ongoing ...

I have an office in a two-storey stone-built outbuilding complete with a small wood-burner. But I also have a wall-mounted electric convection heater - or something like that. The building's fully insulated with double-glazed windows and even with a small burner, it gets very warm quite quickly. I tend to use the heater most of the time, but light up the burner as a morale booster when it's cold.

When we first did the conversion, we looked at one of these:
https://chillipenguin.co.uk/chilli_products/chilli-billie/

But ran into various questions about its suitability vis a vis both safety and planning regs, so ended up with one of these:

https://www.yeomanstoves.co.uk/stove/cl3-multi-fuel-stove/

But practically, I'd say nice thing to have for feel good factor, but less practical than an electric heater. All of which is pretty obvious really. But really ace on bleak, sub-zero winter days 🙂

My dad has a small pot bellied stove in his log cabin, it’s perfect, keeps food hot, boil kettle, cook sausages. Nice ambience too. It’s not used as an office though. Big flagstone behind stove, single wall up to 300mm from ceiling, cement board on ceiling baffle through roof, twin wall flue through roof, to above roof apex.

I would make sure any stove is a clean burn one, it will annoy the neighbours having smoke all the time.

No building regs needed:

Worth double checking if you do want to be legit. That particular statement in the link relates to the actual building, ie it is exempt from Part A of the building regs. It is not exempt from part P (electrical) or Part H (Drainage) for example. Not sure about stoves but I would really hope they have to be compliant. Smoke control zones would certainly apply.

Smoke control zones would certainly apply.

In the same way they do to chimneas and BBQs and other temporary sources ?

We considered one of these for our living room, kept the open fire in the end, but it does have all the accessories for fitting in a garden Room / van / tent / hut and can be smokeless zone approved if required.

https://salamanderstoves.com/product/small-stove-hobbit/

Stove in the shed might be dismissed as a suburban fantasy by some but go for it if it's your fantasy, sounds better than the back bedroom office.

My assumption was that the pizza oven would do most of the heating?

Surely you would rig something up using the Eberspacher in the T6?

In the same way they do to chimneas and BBQs and other temporary sources ?

No. Those are explicitly exempted, a stove in a summerhouse is not exempted and specifically listed as an example (unless it is one of the approved models, or doesn't have a chimney 🙂 )

From https://www.gov.uk/smoke-control-area-rules

Outdoor ovens, burners and barbecues
You can use outdoor barbecues, chimineas, fireplaces or pizza ovens.

Any of these appliances that release smoke through a chimney of a building - for example a summerhouse - can only burn authorised fuel or must be exempt.

I've been looking at the workshop stove you can get for our wooden workshop. The cost benefit is marginal if you are going to do it properly and not use it too often. Our wfh office here would also massively benefit from one. Live in the sticks in a cold bit of the UK on lpg. The environmental impact/ cost/ cosy balance against installation/user faff I think probably still makes sense.

Surely you would rig something up using the Eberspacher in the T6?

I replaced at old super ser with a Chinese ever copy diesel heater in my office. Blipping in the heat from.the house in the morning and then turning up to. A warm office is nice

No chimney though . Just an exhaust and it's not in a summerhouse.

While I wouldn’t have a stove as my office heater…..have you ever had a working stove.

Yup, and it's great. DK Ivar 5KW in the living room, its an end room with single glazed windows on 3 sides, burns hot and efficiently, the draw means minimal smoke escape when the doors open for feeding, but sometimes there is some, despite best efforts.

My point was that a smaller (and cheaper?) stove likely wouldn't burn as hot, especially as the door would be open a lot more often, and the occasional unavoidable small escapes of smoke/exhaust gas would be more frequent and more smoky. And be more contained in small room where someone would be spending considerable amounts of time without doors being opened

I replaced at old super ser with a Chinese ever copy diesel heater in my office

Put one of these in my T6 recently. Actually a good solution plus come with a remote control and built in timer etc. Slightly noisy and there is the issue of the inlet and exhaust so depends on your setup

@surfdad

I work in a 5 X 3 Tuin log cabin and I did consider a log burner, but as others have pointed out I just thought it would be too much hassle, so I opted for the fan heater for the initial boost and then over to the oil filled radiator. Works a treat and I can walk back to the house and not worry.

However if you are still keen (stealth ad) I have a small wood burner, pipe, twin wall etc that I need to sell. Removed from our house as I thought 2 stoves a little excessive.

Message me if you want more details

I looked at this too, I'm fairly sure that despite all of the reasons above being valid I am going to put a stove into my garden office when its built, I dont care if I have to sit there with all the doors and windows open cos its kicking out too much heat for my tiny room I want one and I won't be happy until I've had one and realised for myself what a bad idea it is.

Having looked around i think the salamander one linked above was the best bet, meant for small spaces like canal boats etc