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Short version -New House last year, wood burner in the living room.
Complies with building regs as installed in 2010 as part of the house renovation.[not done by us]
Solicitors and survey happy.
Yesterday - get a local Chimney sweep in to clean for winter [HETAS registered]He says flue is unsafe and incorrectly insatlled.
Today- 2nd opinion from local HETAS fitters confirm installation is unsafe and burner should not be used.
We contacted the solicitors we bought the property through who confirm the Burner installation passed building regs.[necessary paperwork obtained and copies taken]
So, where do we go from here..should I get the bombers out!!???
What is it that makes it unsafe?
A flue for a woodburner is a very simple thing.
I assume you have been using it for a year without any issues? Do you have a CO alarm?
Been used for 8 years by previous owners, the issue is in the loft space. It goes from a twin wall to a single flexi connector, then to the chimney. The flexi connector is bent at 45 degrees, and has gone a blue colour from the heat.
Not quite sure what the question is. If you want to use then fix the flue. There's not much to them.
Quoted nearly 2k to fix the flue...if the Burner and Install passed Building regs, why now is it unsafe?
Should we be liable for the costs? If the install was so unsafe should this have been passed by Building regs?
I assume the £2k quote includes gold plating and diamond encrusting the parts needed?
Quoted nearly 2k to fix the flue...
Normal HETAS piss take.
Can you change the flexi connector for a 45deg twin wall section?
Isn't there a STW member with twin wall in his forum name? Post a pic and I'm sure he could help.
Ah, HETAS are expensive...ok I can't get pics up but from the burner it is twin wall to the loft. Once in the loft imagine a slinky [for those over 40yrs] bent over to the right then up to the chimney.
So I guess they can just replace that section and not the whole flue.
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if the Burner and Install passed Building regs, why now is it unsafe?
It6 was always unsafe and should not have been signed off is my guess. Probably not inspected properly ie the inspector if he even visited did not go in the attic and the plans submitted were not adhered to by the installer
Flex liner should only ever be installed within a chimney not as a flue in its own right so I can't see how that was ever legit.
That's rediculous.... I've was quoted £1200 last week for a complete new liner including fitting.Quoted nearly 2k to fix the flue.
Plenty of advice above but remember than flexible liner does not last forever... my fitter has seen a few new ones that had been destroyed in 3 years from burning smokeless (IIRC).
That's rediculous.... I've was quoted £1200 last week for a complete new liner including fitting.
So is that! £300 for the liner, £900 for fitting.
1/2 day work for 2 people.
Soo let me get this straight:
From burner to loft in twinwall
From there in single wall flex liner to an old chimney and out?
The exposed flex liner in the loft space is the problem - this should not be exposed, onlywithin a chimney.
So if I read the regs correctly either:
a) find the brand of twin wall and use the same twin wall to make the connection to the chimney, then flex inside chimney and out the top. Or just take the twin wall straight up through the roof, and dismantle your chimney (no more leaks). This twin wall in the loft space technically needs a guard around it.
or possibly:
b) make a "chimney" to enclose the existing flue liner. Class A fire boards (hardiebacker) and fire sealant. I think the regulations will be vague on this one.
So if I read the regs correctly either:
a) find the brand of twin wall and use the same twin wall to make the connection to the chimney, then flex inside chimney and out the top. Or just take the twin wall straight up through the roof, and dismantle your chimney (no more leaks). This twin wall in the loft space technically needs a guard around it.or possibly:
b) make a "chimney" to enclose the existing flue liner. Class A fire boards (hardiebacker) and fire sealant. I think the regulations will be vague on this one.
The easiest and safest way is to take the twin wall straight through the roof, as probably should have been done in the first place. That's assuming the chimney it's connecting doesn't actually have an appliance that's useable anyway...
And B) single wall Flexi liner is only supposed to be used to reline an existing masonry chimney. So no.
I'd be contacting the name on the paperwork asking them to explain how it was signed off and telling them to rectify at their cost. With the threat of reporting them to HETAS, I'd also consider contacting them anyway as they might run the self certification scheme so might have issues with other installations.
Never said I was going for it! It also included the hire of a cherry picker due to the height of the chimney.So is that! £300 for the liner, £900 for fitting.
I'd be contacting the name on the paperwork asking them to explain how it was signed off and telling them to rectify at their cost.
For a contract with someone else over 8 years ago?
Nothing to do with timescale. It was never done correctly and someone had committed an offence. Believe it may be a criminal one now too.