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It's freezing, why did you leave the window open and let out all the heat?
I didn't, I think you opened it this morning.
Oh, that was to let the fresh air in.
So are you cold now?
No, but the room is lovely and fresh.
?!?!?!?!?
Anyone got an explanation for the conversation I just had?
Yep: you're wrong.
Thermodynamics.
Can't explain it, but sounds strangely familiar

Read the thread title as wives widows and warmth.
Thought it was a cryptic confession.
Ps the answer might be in here somewhere
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/menopause/
docrobster - not unless it started over 30 years ago when we first met and is still going on tonight
😂
WCA, you have just described my wife life.
Windows open and heating off.
OR
Windows closed and heating on.
There is no in between.
Is anyone bored enough to advise me about opening windows?
Windows open for 5 min, then closed, in the morning for some fresh air but not cooling the infrastructure down.
Don't rely on anyone else to do simple jobs 🥶
Mrs G wont admit to it but we/she sleep much better with the heating off and the window open !! with the proviso that i close window and turn on rad when i get up. she does however always have 2 duvets adding up to 15 + togs all year round! then throws it/off into middle . Its just one of those things i spose.As above ^^ you are wrong again..
Windows open and heating off.
OR
Windows closed and heating on.
There is no in between.
I disagree. i like the heating on and to use the windows as a kind of potentiometer. Open a crack, a wide open blast, close when it gets a bit cold, open when it gets a bit hot. Keeps it fresh without having to dick around with the controls all the time. And the desired temperate is achieved quickly.
Wives
Plural? I'm seeing you in a new light WCA.
Read the thread title as wives widows and warmth.
I did too.. Puts a different frame on the discussion. That's for sure... I was very happy to read the contents were just a bloke being angry with the Mrs for wasting the gas bill!
Are you bored enough to watch me lay a new patio?
As much as we might like to fantasise, the reality is that between September and March we just have to suck it up and put up with houses that are way too warm to be comfortable.
And that's without the 'Why can't we just keep the summer duvet on the bed all year round?' conversation...
On a more positive note in the too hot house temperature context, at least we don't live with the In-Laws... Just a couple of days over Christmas to tolerate.
Has she found out about the existence of the thermostat yet?
If so you're no doubt familiar with the concept of setting it to a temperature far above or bellow the intended target because that will of course raise/lower the temperature faster...
I’ve not told my wife about the wireless thermostat we got with the new boiler a couple of weeks ago. The old dial box is still on the wall in the downstairs loo, not connected to anything. It’s still keeping her happy winding the temp up on it when she thinks it’s a bit cold. Even more amusing is the fact that she appears to be happy with the result!
Mrs100th finally agrees that we sleep better if the heating isn't on making the room too hot. But she only agrees to turn it down on the way past the thermostat to bed. I view this as a partial win.
mattbee you're a hero but when she finds out ......
I’ve not told my wife about the wireless thermostat we got with the new boiler a couple of weeks ago. The old dial box is still on the wall in the downstairs loo, not connected to anything. It’s still keeping her happy winding the temp up on it when she thinks it’s a bit cold. Even more amusing is the fact that she appears to be happy with the result!
Ha ha, I got two years out of this when we had Hive installed..., though rumbled last year. However, Now I get 4 weeks of respite from 'thermostat wars' because the thermostat is behind the Christmas tree and she can't reach it. And there's no chance she has the app either...
Currently living a menopausal wife......I dare not add my thoughts, in fact I'm sure I'm not allowed any thoughts.
If so you’re no doubt familiar with the concept of setting it to a temperature far above or bellow the intended target because that will of course raise/lower the temperature faster…
😂
I’ve not told my wife about the wireless thermostat we got with the new boiler a couple of weeks ago. The old dial box is still on the wall in the downstairs loo, not connected to anything. It’s still keeping her happy winding the temp up on it when she thinks it’s a bit cold. Even more amusing is the fact that she appears to be happy with the result!
This is the way to do it. I did exactly the same in the old house and our current house. I also put the locking pins in the thermostatic valves soon after we moved in. No more weekly 'discussions' about how thermostats/valves work.
No controller to fiddle with either, it's all done via an app on my phone 😀
Now all I need to do is stop the mil standing on the doorstep for 30 minutes whilst they chat with the door wide open, because 'she's not stopping'.
am i correct in thinking that the Hive system TRVs can tell if there is a window open (somehow) and shuts off the heating in that room?
Our Nest has helpfully informed us its making a "seasonal review", but ive no idea what that means. Doing a re-learn for the holiday period?
Weve got a smart meter too now, which i was thinking i would find hard, as its constantly updating out spend on gas and electric, but all its done is point out that the difference between being toasty warm, and achey and cold all day, is about 50p, So stuff it.
Get Honeywell evohome and control it all from the app on your phone.
That only you have.
I’ve not told my wife about the wireless thermostat we got with the new boiler a couple of weeks ago....
Genius
Has she found out about the existence of the thermostat yet?
Mine doesn't understand the concept of the thermostat.
If so you’re no doubt familiar with the concept of setting it to a temperature far above or bellow the intended target because that will of course raise/lower the temperature faster…
i have this in the car when we first set off.
"brrrrrr its freezing!" and proceeds to turn the dial right round....
"but.....ahhhh forget it" 😂
i have this in the car when we first set off.
It's important to turn the dial right round to give the car/boiler/whatever the distinct impression that you *really* mean it, and it needs to snap to.
Otherwise it'll just dawdle.
Psychology of the individual, innit?
Whatever i say about duvets, Windows and heating is wrong.
I've made my peace with that.
And there’s no chance she has the app either…
"Alexa, ask Hive to turn up the heating"
Sorted.
i have this in the car when we first set off.
Yep. We've got dual climate control, but she will crank her temp up, then the fans to max, then crank my temp up. Does it every time we get in the car. When we eventually get an EV she's gonna drain the battery blasting the fans on max all the time!!😂
Also always cranks the heating thermostat way up to an unachievable temp so that the rest of the house ends up roasting!
When we eventually get an EV she’s gonna drain the battery blasting the fans on max all the time!!
OTOH, you'll be able to pre-heat the car before unplugging it from the wall, so that might cure that behaviour.
Wife when riding a mountain bike - in the highest gear and getting angry at how hard it is peddling up a hill:
me: "change gear to an easier one"
her: (shouting at me) "the bike's not listening to what I'm telling it"
me: "press the big shifter button by your right thumb"
her: (now close to a Michael Douglas / Falling Down moment) " STOP TREATING ME LIKE I'M STUPID!!)
Wife when the heating's on:
me: "you've got the heating on and all the windows open"
her: "it was too hot"
me: "you've turned the thermostat to 28 degrees"
her: (shouting at me) "YES... BECAUSE IT WAS COLD"
me: "why not shut the windows then?"
her: (now close to a Michael Douglas / Falling Down moment) " STOP TREATING ME LIKE I'M STUPID!!)
Wife when the house is 19 degrees (thermostat temperature target):
her: "the heating isn't working"
me: "yes it is - it's 19 degrees"
her: (shouting at me) " WELL THE RADIATORS AREN'T HOT SO IT CAN'T BE"
me: "they will only come on if it goes below 19 - the trv valve checks the temperature"
her: (now close to a Michael Douglas / Falling Down moment) " STOP TREATING ME LIKE I'M STUPID!!)
Wife when she's rammed 22kg of washing in the 7kg tumble drier drum"
her: "the tumble drier is broken - it's not getting the washing dry - you need to buy a new one:"
me: "it won't dry if there's too much stuff in it - the washing needs to be able to move round in the air inside"
her: "BUT IT'S BEEN ON FOR 15 HOURS AND STILL ISN'T DRY"
me: "you need to take some of the washing out"
her: (now close to a Michael Douglas / Falling Down moment) " STOP TREATING ME LIKE I'M STUPID!!)
I won't even start on why the car stalls trying to move off in 3rd or the reaction to trying to go from 5th to 2nd.
Why did you marry someone so stupid
Why did you marry someone so stupid
Well in my case, no one sensible would have me
I feel like I’m being stalked ^^
That is mrs g in every post unless …
Nah none of you know her😲
am i correct in thinking that the Hive system TRVs can tell if there is a window open (somehow) and shuts off the heating in that room?
Only if you have the window sensors fitted to each opening casement.
STOP TREATING ME LIKE I’M STUPID!
Stop acting like a ****ing imbecile then. That would be my response.
Even in -2⁰C Mrs Seadog will open windows, but "not so much that the bugs will come in"
Bugs? This time of the year?
All round brilliance. This has a future TOTW written all over it.
Windows open and heating off.
OR
Windows closed and heating on.
You're lucky.
Hushed voices talk of the Azzurri Burnley Thermostat Wars of 2013.
The first people into the office think "it's a bit chilly" and set the thermostat to 30'.
The next lot arrive to find a sauna and knock it back down to 16'.
Then The Lizard gets to work, smashes it back up to 30'. Sits there in a hat and gloves and squeals "I'm cold!" at anyone within a two metre radius of the controller.
I'm sweating bullets and wondering if I could get away with working naked.
Someone loses their rag and flings open every window in the building.
The Lizard goes for a shit. In her absence a brave soul immediately slams the aircon back down to 16'.
All the windows are still wide open so the aircon is now trying to cool the entirety of Lancashire down to sixteen motherloving degrees.
The controller melts. The outdoor units freeze solid. We no longer have either heating or cooling. The Lizard is officially and highly vocally Not Happy.
The maintenance company is called. Craig arrives with a big bag of What The Actual.
The whole system is stripped and rebuilt.
Facilities installs a lockable Perspex case over the controls.
The Lizard is beyond pissed.
I cannot stop laughing.
I now work from home.
@cheddarchallenged - Scarily similar to my other half 😂
It took 5 years of suggestions from me, a cycling coach and knee niggles for her to think about using the middle ring on her surly.
She is thinking of getting driving lessons in the new year, an automatic will be our next car if she does in terms of needing less mechanical sympathy…
Thankfully had more success on the central heating controls and her using the gas fire to top up the front room rather than putting the whole house on 30. I have learned to accept duvet thickness is her call and will gladly agree to whatever choice she wants.
I've completely given up on trying the explain the mysteries of the thermostat to Mrs B.
I now just dress for the prevailing (environ)mental conditions in the house.
In winters past I've strolled around in shorts and a T-shirt with the thermostat cranked up to 25C (by her) with no chance of the hallway ever reaching that giddy temperature whilst the rest of the house melts.
This year though, with the rise in gas prices and close attention being paid to the smartmeter the heating has been switched off apart from one hour in the morning and evening. The house is permanently freezing. We are in Inverness, and its sub zero outside and I'm sat in front of my computer all day long working from home on STW, wearing thermals, down jacket and hat.
Crazy.
the heating has been switched off apart from one hour in the morning and evening... We are in Inverness,
WTF dude? Ouch.
WTF dude? Ouch.
My foot has gone down today. Heating on constant, thermostat in the hall set to 14, rest of the house is comfortably warm. No requirement to wear a hat / down jacket in the house.
14?
For reference, I set server rooms to 18.
TL:DR... how long until the "are you bored enough to watch me appoint a divorce lawyer" thread?
14?
The hallway is the largest void in the house covering ground and first floor, only has a small radiator downstairs, and the thermostat is pretty close to the front door.
14 seems to be the sweet spot to achieve a sensible temperature for the rest of the house. Well, for me anyway.
For reference, I set server rooms to 18.
I don't heat the servants' quarters.
You’re lucky.
Hushed voices talk of the Azzurri Burnley Thermostat Wars of 2013.
The first people into the office think “it’s a bit chilly” and set the thermostat to 30′.
The next lot arrive to find a sauna and knock it back down to 16′.
Then The Lizard gets to work, smashes it back up to 30′. Sits there in a hat and gloves and squeals “I’m cold!” at anyone within a two metre radius of the controller.
I’m sweating bullets and wondering if I could get away with working naked.
Someone loses their rag and flings open every window in the building.
The Lizard goes for a shit. In her absence a brave soul immediately slams the aircon back down to 16′.
All the windows are still wide open so the aircon is now trying to cool the entirety of Lancashire down to sixteen motherloving degrees.
The controller melts. The outdoor units freeze solid. We no longer have either heating or cooling. The Lizard is officially and highly vocally Not Happy.
The maintenance company is called. Craig arrives with a big bag of What The Actual.
The whole system is stripped and rebuilt.
Facilities installs a lockable Perspex case over the controls.
The Lizard is beyond pissed.
I cannot stop laughing.
I now work from home.
Brilliant. Have seen this exact thing happen a few years back in an office full of 20's men and women. The thermostat/window wars. Things get nasty.
Azzurri Burnley Thermostat Wars of 2013
I’m sweating bullets and wondering if I could get away with working naked.
🤣🤣🤣
So familiar.
I actually threatened my old boss with me sitting opposite her in my royals due to her having control over the thermostat and a penchant for 26*c.
My new admin has been issued a desk alongside the largest radiator in the room, whereas my desk is against the (single glazed) window...
I actually threatened my old boss with me sitting opposite her in my royals due to her having control over the thermostat and a penchant for 26*c.
I had a fairly poor sickness record in a previous job, which was put down to ongoing sinus problems. Generally feeling poorly with a complete lack of energy, but no real symptoms. (That workplace still have, a real problem with staff sickness.) Something prompted me to take a hygrometer in for a few days, which showed me that the office sat at 24C and a really low humidity - something similar to the Atacama desert, I seem to remember. My sinus problems suddenly made sense.