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😆 tin foil hat for Flashy, the Kaesae of the rugby world

😆 tin foil hat for Flashy, the Kaesae of the rugby world

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Balls POC definitely out for us on Sat. I fear our run of defeats isn't going to end this weekend.

Ireland team for SA:

15 – Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster/1)
14 – Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster/49)
13 – Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster/32)
12 – Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster/69)
11 – Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster/48)
10 – Jonathan Sexton (St.Mary’s College/Leinster/32)
9 – Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster/12)

1 – Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster/33)
2 – Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster)*
3 – Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster/22)
4 – Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster/21)
5 – Mike McCarthy (Buccaneers/Connacht/4)
6 – Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster/7)
7 – Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster/2)
8 – Jamie Heaslip (Naas/Leinster/50) Captain

Replacements:
16 – Sean Cronin (St. Mary’s College/Leinster/21)
17 – David Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster)*
18 – Michael Bent (Leinster)*
19 – Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster/88)
20 – Iain Henderson (Queens University/Ulster)*
21 – Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster/45)
22 – Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster/124)
23 – Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster/14)

Steady Deccie has excelled again. DOC and ROG shouldn't be anywhere near this team, time to get a few younger players in. Glad to see Henry getting a start at 7 as we have never really replaced David Wallace and he has been in great form for Ulster.

DOC's solid on the bench, but I agree re ROG. Time for new players, and as for his tackling, the less said the better!

I have to disagree on DOC, he hangs around on the wing, thinking he playing a 15 man game, looking disinterested and giving away too many penalties.

I'm also not keen on bringing in the chap Bent from NZ, fair enough his Granny or something is Irish but he hasn't even played a game in Ireland. What type of message does that send to young Irish players.

m also not keen on bringing in the chap Bent from NZ, fair enough his Granny or something is Irish but he hasn't even played a game in Ireland. What type of message does that send to young Irish players.

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lol @ducky I think if you liked Guinness or fly fishing you made Jacks team. When it comes to fitba I'm from north of the border, home of the best ever...no pun intended

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Zebo at full back, is that wise?

In a word No

Zebo at full back, is that wise?

He is a very good attacking winger but hasn't even played FB for Munster so it's certainly a gamble. SA are bound to kick and press all day long so I hope he can withstand it.

Just got a ticket for the game so I'll check out Zebo's skills in person. Woo hoo!

I rate Zebo highly as a winger but its a big ask to play 15 when not that experienced. I might have thought Bowe would be a better bet. That whole Irish team looks a bit second rate to me.

[i]All Black team to play Scotland:
15 Israel Dagg, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Ben Smith, 12 Tamati Ellison, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Daniel Carter, 9 Piri Weepu, 8 Victor Vito, 7 Richie McCaw (captain), 6 Adam Thomson, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Luke Romano, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Wyatt Crockett.

Reserves: Dane Coles, Tony Woodcock, Ben Franks, Ali Williams, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Beauden Barrett, Ma'a Nonu.[/i]

10 changes from their last fixture. Guess they don't like to draw games.

Thought McCaw was having a rest, that looks like a strong outfit and lots on the bench as well, wonder what TJ thinks of that?

@AA - I guess that Bowe and Zebo can rotate if needs be, according to the Irish press Zebo has the best boot of the three and that is why he was selected.

Can't see anything other than a big win for the All Blacks on Sun, that bench is very strong.

Wyatt Crockett sounds like he should be in a Western movie

Gulp, that's a strong NZ team, i think Vito may run off the scrums at Laidlaw a fair bit.

All Black team to play Scotland:
15 Israel Dagg, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Ben Smith, 12 Tamati Ellison, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Daniel Carter, 9 Piri Weepu, 8 Victor Vito, 7 Richie McCaw (captain), 6 Adam Thomson, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Luke Romano, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Wyatt Crockett.

Reserves: Dane Coles, Tony Woodcock, Ben Franks, Ali Williams, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Beauden Barrett, Ma'a Nonu.

Sheesh....Obviously have targeted Scotland as the danger team, since we are the only home nation to beat any of the SH this year. Can't blame them really,can you?

Predictions anyone?

I will go

England to win by more than 12 points
SA to win by less than 10 points
Wales to win by less than 7 points
NZ to win by more than 10 points (but Scotland to score which is almost the same as a win in Edinburgh this season)

England to win by more than 12 points
SA to win by less than 10 points
Wales to win by less than 7 points
NZ to win by more than 10 points (but Scotland to score which is almost the same as a win in Edinburgh this season)

England by less than that. 5-10 only
SA should stroll it, sadly. 20+
Wales by less than 7 I agree with.
NZ by more than 30. But yes, Scotland will score. A penalty.

I fear a Welsh reversal 😐

Not sure about the saes

Scotchland to be pounded

Ireland to lose as well

Jeez CFH 20+ no way!

I'll go with

Ireland by 3-5
Eng by 15
Arg by 3-5
NZ by 40

What? looking at Scotlands fantastic record v NZ i just don't see where you get victory by more than 30 😉

Will be making sure hipflask is brimmed

•2010: Scotland 3-49 NZ
•2008: Scotland 6-32 NZ
•2007 (WC): Scotland 0-40 NZ
•2005: Scotland 10-29 NZ
•2001: Scotland 6-37 NZ

I think Ireland will struggle without some key players but not that badly.

Scotchland and Ireland to recieve a thorough kicking. Wales to sneak by with a couple of late tries. Englandshire to hammer Fiji and be back on the top of the world.

Anyone got a reliable link to somewhere to watch the Ospreys v Glaws game tonight?

some links here
http://myp2p.mu/index.php?sport=rugby

Just got back from a skin of the teeth win over Glawster 😆 how much rain. Saw the legend that is Graham Price 😆

Nice touch was Freddy Burns shaking my mates hand and telling him to drive home safe.

Sheesh....Obviously have targeted Scotland as the danger team, since we are the only home nation to beat any of the SH this year. Can't blame them really,can you?

That bunch of second raters would struggle to make the London Welsh second 15.

Wales : 15-Leigh Halfpenny, 14-Alex Cuthbert, 13-Scott Williams, 12-Jamie Roberts, 11-George North, 10-Rhys Priestland, 9-Tavis Knoyle; 1-Gethin Jenkins, 2-Matthew Rees, 3-Aaron Jarvis, 4-Alun Wyn Jones, 5-Ian Evans, 6-Josh Turnbull, 7-Sam Warburton (c), 8-Toby Faletau

Replacements: 16-Richard Hibbard, 17-Ryan Bevington, 18-Paul James, 19-Rob McCusker, 20-Justin Tipuric, 21-Mike Phillips, 22-James Hook, 23-Liam Williams

Argentina : 15-Juan Martin Hernandez, 14-Gonzalo Camacho, 13-Gonzalo Tiesi, 12-Felipe Contepomi, 11-Juan Imhoff, 10-Nicolas Sanchez, 9-Martin Landajo; 1-Marcos Ayerza, 2-Eusebio Guinazu, 3-Juan Figallo, 4-Manuel Carizza,5-Julio Farias Cabello, 6-Leonardo Senatore, 7-Juan Manuel Leguizamon, 8-Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe (c)

Replacements: 16-Agustin Creevy, 17-Bruno Postiglioni, 18-Juan Gomez, 19-Tomas Vallejos Cinalli, 20-Tomas Leonardi, 21-Nicolas Vergallo, 22-Horacio Agulla, 23-Joaquin Tuculet

Nice to See JMH at 15 for Argentina. A very creative player when on form.

Fridge is stocked...! Brains SA Gold on special offer at Waitrose! 🙂

*Warms up vocal chords*

😥

Wales are playing utter rubbish. Very disappointed. 🙁

Argentina look like the coming force in world rugby, though. Which I suppose is good to see.

But still, 🙁

GLITCHY****ERY!

That was dire from Wales. Dire, dire, dire. Terrible performance, and deserved to be beaten.

Lobbe was immense.

Wales utterly clueless. Really don't think Howley is a suitable sub for Gatland, seems to pick the same players, regardless of form. Warburton was anonymous, Priestland inept. Wish I I hadn't forked out 75 quid for the All Blacks game now.......

Wales lacked commitment at the breakdown. Didn't compete we'll enough and ended up playing off the back foot. Argentina took the game to them and they had no answer. So disappointing. Had I paid to watch that, I'd want my money back.

Wales, ha ha ha. Best team in world rugby, everyone of them a lion in waiting..... Love it.

Sloppy England showing a lot of new caps and lack of cohesion, not a bad result at all!

Perhaps the WRU Should retain their appearance fee and offer refunds for ticket stubs. That was..... No other way to put it, sh!t.

They will get Annihilated by the All Blacks.

England quite obviously favorites for the 6n at the point. 😉

Yeah I too thought that Warburton was awful (but then I just think that he's always anonymous. 1/2p was the stand out welsh player for me. Impressive from the Argie's which is good to see, i Can't quite believe they beat Wales by so much though, their pack doesn't look massively heavyweight and they throw a huge number of wayward passes.

Utterly shocking from Wales. Really don't know what they were doing - and by the look of it, neither did they!!!

Come on the All Bl....oh. Hold on a minute...!

Come on Ireland! 😉

England fav for 6 nations? Hell no, we're rubbish. We know we play badly, theres very little hope that it'll suddenly come good and we will beat the SH 3, but we can be pleased about a good result.

Bet by Tuesday the Wrlsh are the best team in the work again (I love this attitude!)

All blacks SA game looks alright as well

Scotland for the 6 Nations 😉

Peterson (spl?) has to go off for ten at least. Nasty, nasty "tackle".

Might be another for the afters as well....

Yeah-straight from the rugby league manual that one 🙂

Nah....they didn't have a little wriggle around and a cuddle afterwards! 😉

The All Blirish are playing very well, I reckon. A great first half.

or the Saffas haven't turned up 😉

Oof its tight-i think the staff as will edge it though.

I've had a great day at my sons second b'day party, we had a bouncy castle and everything. Dont think I'll watch the recordings!!
Good luck to Scotchland tomorrow!

Just back from Dublin, very disappointed with the result SA were there for the beating, however I'm very positive about the future cause we have some very good young players coming through. Healy, Henry and Darcy were the pick of the Irish. Zebo was very poor at full back.

France result looks interesting...

Australia were apparently awful, but still...

I thought that Zebo was pretty good....in the studio BOD was pretty impressed with him too.

Off to memorial at 11 am then Bennet's Bar. Wondering what to do in Embra for the nest 30 mins.

This will appear a post to antagonise but it is not intended to do so.

Wales have looked in recent years to be moving in the right way with some good physical backs looked after by a decent set of forwards. How can they play so badly where they only managed to get into the Pumas 22 twice in the whole 80 mins. I've not seen the game but read reports, obviously the pumas are a decent side these days and will only get better with their regular internationals now.

So many people seem to focus on Wales being better than England and their players being better than their English counterparts that they lose sight of the whole picture? This could also be levelled at Scotland, possibly not so much Ireland. Is it due to Irelands players having more exposure at european rugby or is it something lacking from the other nations.

I must confess to a little cheer at the Welsh result, but would love to see them step up and step up a level as they can be a great team to watch. I just find it hard when they seem to focus on the beating england bit a bit too much. I dare say the players are possibly not as bad as their fans but does it rub off on them?

**** me felt like crying watching Wales yesterday WTF!!!??? fair play to argentina, wales only breaking into their 22 twice in the 80 mins!!!

i think a combinatioin of howley and warburton is the problem.... does warburton actually speak or shout during a game? howley is out of his depth get gatland back now! then again you have to blame the players way to flat, no vision yet again from some - priestland didnt see the one overlap (AGAIN!) get bigger on atleast he's got some bollox, if the game plan aint working just go for it!

roberts hurry up and **** off to france and dont bother coming back if called up for internationals, one trick pony.

defence was ok but im dreading samoa not even thinking about nz and oz!!

then again what do i know, back to the old days unless we turn it round.

Problem with Wales is that people like Roberts cannot be bothered when playing for their regions as the teams are shite and uncompetitive but due to a chronic lack of strength in depth they still get picked for wales. This is compunded by team wales having so much power over the regions. So Wales pick a load of quality players who are playing shit and some shite players. The potential Lions cant be arsed for their clubs and will look to peak around six nations time safe in the knowledge they are undroppable for club or country. Added to this general malaise is the Fact that Howley is head coach who isnt up to the job.

Those boxes in the back of the all blacks tops, is that where they are remotely controlled by?

I wish they were so you could select the number on your remote and shock the buggers! Scotland are very poor. Jim Hamilton is useless...

WT* are Scotland wearing?

WT* are Scotland wearing?

Bet you chunk jacobsen is delighted at the position of the saltire - I thought Greg Fisher had wandered on as a replacement by mistake...

WT* are Scotland wearing?

Whatever it is, it isn't as bad as the Irish away strip last night!
In fact, does any national side have a "good" away strip at the moment?

Wales will hammer them in a few weeks time!!! 😀

So, after the first week, what can we gather?

England looked OK, but against not exactly stunning oposition.
Wales looked awful. No, beyond awful. Utter pish.
France? Well, Australia weren't on form, but sounds like France were rather clinical.
Ireland? Not too bad, but just lacking that last move/pass etc.
Scotland? Brave performance, some nice stuff (Only saw the second half), but still a step or three behind the SH teams overall.
Argetina? Always like the way they play the game, and they just seem to be improving year on year. Good for them!
SA? Scrappy, but effective. A win's a win.
NZ? Well, as good as ever, really. Impressive.

Anyone got a good round up of all the other international scores this weekend? Italy were playing Tonga, I think. And more besides.

Yep I'd agree with that Flashy....I really didn't rate either Ireland or SA though. I thought that SA looked like they were there for the taking but Ireland didn't really look capable of scoring. Fiji were dire so hard to judge England. The All Blacks didn't look too bad!

Flash I think you are going a bit easy on Wales 😆 my school second 15 played with more heart and commitment.

AA I agree McCaw and co will be having sleepless nights thinking about Cardiff and the mountain they have to climb 😉

Three fricking tries from giving away the humping ball! Jeez...Still scoring three tries in any game for us,let alone the A-B's is a step in the right direction.

As for the Welsh,not often a Scot can do this but (points at AA) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Duckman it is so deserved 😥 a complete clustershambles to mix my metafors.

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/mods-can-you-fix-the-new-page-glitch-please

FFS, fix this bloody glitch!

I'm just glad you are happy when conceding 50 points Ducky!!

On a serious note, only game I watched was the Scotland one. Jury still out on McVisser, he was awol on defence a lot.

I was impressed with the Cross try, all to often Scotland have conspired to knock on, turnover the ball etc in a similar position.

Defence was poor which is annoying because in the past we have defended well but never looked like scoring yesterday was the opposite. Maybe one day we will put a full performance together.

Edit: I agree re Visser, i think he is possibly the best finisher in the UK at present but by no means the best winger. However i don't think Scotland can leave him out with our scoring record.

Jury still out on McVisser, he was awol on defence a lot.

IMO thats sums up the Andy Robinsons selection tactics - Player does one thing well a few times, therefore he's international standard.

I think McVisser should certainly be in the scotland team but for such a big lad he doesnt seem to punch his weight either in defence or carrying into contact. He's as big as Roberts or North but doesnt use the size as well

Well AA; on the way your boys played on Saturday that will be an achievement. Serves them right mind,if as you were saying just 12 short months ago, Warburton is Lions skipper material, why not play him... 😈

McVisser is in the press up here saying what a shock that was after playing Fiji and Samoa. Describes how first time he got the ball he got the door closed on him by large AB forward.That was a step above anything he has played.When he first arrived over here he was gash, he has done whatever he has needed to step up to the next level I think he will fit the bill nicely.

Smiley added to show tongue firmly in cheek 🙂

Are we getting personal again? I hope not.

I think McVisser should certainly be in the scotland team but for such a big lad he doesnt seem to punch his weight either in defence or carrying into contact. He's as big as Roberts or North but doesnt use the size as well

Banahan?

I think I said earlier in this thread (or could have been the last one with TJ) that I'd wait to see what McVisser did when faced with international opposition. Jury is still out (as it would be for any first cap - won't write him off yet!)

Looking forward to next weekend already!