[Closed] Winters coming;all inclusive rugby thread.

I was going to ask what sort of WC he had....i missed most of it as i was working-i don't think that saw a single wales game-maybe the second half of the semi....i can't say that i remember being impressed with him last 6n

Is Hook injured or just completely out of favour?
I'd have thought he'd be better bench cover for more positions.

Bradley Davies as a potential lion? I'm a big fan of his.

It's a better selection but what's Scott Williams done to be dropped to the bench, I thought he was one of the better players on Saturday, and unless he's injured I don't understand why Hook isn't on the bench, I'd take him over priestland as cover ( and as starting 10 tbh).

Scotland Team

Scotland : Stuart Hogg, Sean Lamont, Nick De Luca, Matt Scott, Tim Visser, Greig Laidlaw, Mike Blair, Ryan Grant, Ross Ford, Euan Murray, Richie Gray, Jim Hamilton, Alasdair Strokosch, Kelly Brown, David Denton.

Replacements : Dougie Hall, Kyle Traynor, Geoff Cross, Alastair Kellock, John Barclay, Ruaridh Jackson, Peter Murchie.

Hook just isnt seen as a starting ten anymore not entirely sure why. Beck and Roberts is a good combo on paper.

How is Roberts playing he was spark out? Can you be knocked out with out suffering a concussion?

Pigface - Member
How is Roberts playing he was spark out? Can you be knocked out with out suffering a concussion?

Wrong; he obviously had "Sportsman's migraine" because if he was concussed, he would be out for a number of weeks. 🙄

Scotland team looking a bit better with the addition of God's prop. Kelly Brown lucky he is captain methinks.

Wrong; he obviously had "Sportsman's migraine" because if he was concussed, he would be out for a number of weeks

Thats not the case anymore though is it. Rather than a set amount of time out they have to be medically assessed and past fit. I expect Dr Jaw did it himself!!

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Look, I wasn't concussed, right? Tidy. Lovely.

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In other news:
8 weeks for the tackle mistiming by Simmons

1 week for the head stamping All Black.

and a Calum Clarke Award for Bravery for Ellison.

They really don't like tip tackles do they! Part of me thinks that it'd be a shame if stamping on someone's head was totally removed from the game 🙂

The fact he might have self diagnosed had crossed my mind A-A 😀

As for stamping;Don't confuse it with rucking a player out. I got 11 stitches in my head on two sites from somebody stamping on me. I had been tackled and put the ball back,oppo's drove back leaving me at the side trapped in the ruck. Blackheath no4 arrived and stamped on my head and face when both my arms were pinned.I now have a beaut off a scar on my forehead.
On the other hand I have been "recycled" more times than I can remember,few stud marks, club shirt sticking to your back,serves you right. Rucking an integral part of the game,stamping=assault.

As a ref I would be expected to stop it.IMO the better the standard, (with Clark like exceptions,) the cleaner it is.It is when you get 2xv lower club sides that seem to just want to get their jollys on a Sat from kicking lumps out of each other. A powerful incentive to move up the grades...(thinks back to refing touring Welsh teams v Fife teams...shivers....)

Duckman - what era was that? New a few Blackheath players a few years ago, including someone who played second row.....

I played the Met police team once, they behaved like a bunch of animals and IMO shouldnt have been on the pitch.

I also got my coccix cracked in two by a Tunbridge Wells Centre who, after I chased and went down on a ball that sailed over my head, thought landing with his knee on my back was a good idea (something to do with the fact I lived in TW but played for another Kent Team)- the referee ignored the whole thing! I had the last laugh though, becuase with no Subs I stayed hobbling on the wing to later recieve a pop pass 10 yards from the line to score. I had to be lifted off the line by my team it was so bad.

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Glitchyfukkety****ery

<BUUUUUUUUUMP> AAAArrgh

England team to face Australia: Alex Goode (Saracens, 3 caps); Chris Ashton (Saracens, 26 caps), Manusamoa Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 14 caps), Brad Barritt (Saracens, 8 caps), Charlie Sharples (Gloucester Rugby, 3 caps); Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers, 51 caps), Danny Care (Harlequins, 34 caps); Joe Marler (Harlequins, 4 caps), Tom Youngs, (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 32 caps), Tom Palmer (London Wasps, 41 caps), Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers, 9 caps), Tom Johnson, (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt, 9 caps), Thomas Waldrom (Leicester Tigers, 3 caps).
Replacements: David Paice (London Irish, 3 caps), David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 20 caps), Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 1 cap), Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 1 cap), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 10 caps), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 25 caps), Owen Farrell (Saracens, 9 caps), Mike Brown (Harlequins, 8 caps).

Australia team to face England: Berrick Barnes (NSW Waratahs); Digby Ioane (Queensland Reds), Adam Ashley-Cooper (NSW Waratahs), Ben Tapuai (Queensland Reds), Nick Cummins (Western Force); Kurtley Beale (Melbourne Rebels), Nick Phipps (Melbourne Rebels); Benn Robinson (NSW Waratahs), Tatafu Polota Nau (NSW Waratahs), Ben Alexander (Brumbies), Sitaleki Timani (NSW Waratahs), Nathan Sharpe (Western Force, captain), Dave Dennis (NSW Waratahs), Michael Hooper (NSW Waratahs), Wycliff Palu (NSW Waratahs).
Replacements: Stephen Moore (Brumbies), James Slipper (Queensland Reds), Sekope Kepu (NSW Waratahs), Radike Samo (Queensland Reds), Liam Gill (Queensland Reds), Brett Sheehan (Western Force), Mike Harris (Queensland Reds), Drew Mitchell (NSW Waratahs).

I think Visser will be a stick on if he continues to score freely. 4 tries ,three caps ,two against the all blacks.
Denton has just come back from injury and played very well on Sunday. He will be there or there abouts come the summer. Same with Kelly Brown.
I don't rate Ritchie Gray that highly. He struggles in the tight and around the breakdowns.Although it is good to have a 6"10, 20st flanker running about the pitch, he doesn't hit like one or burst through tackles like he should. Runs well in the loose though.
Injuries will dictate the starting lineup for the lions not neccesarily form.

How mental must Deans be to put Barnes at 15 and Beale at 10.

I think Visser will be a stick on if he continues to score freely. 4 tries ,three caps ,two against the all blacks.

really have you seen his defence? Better than North, Cuthbert, Bowe or Gashton?

Predictions for this week are brought to you by the reckless power of lunchtime beers.

Wales to win by 5-12
Australia to win by less than 7
Ireland to win by about 20
Scotland to win by less than 3 (with Visser to get another 2 tries)

France v Argentina is going to be an absolute cracker... To close to call as the Pumas will have their tails up from last weekend and the Frenchies should the Aussies who's boss. Should be a blast!

France v Argentina is going to be an absolute cracker..

Agreed!

Wales to win by 5-12

i think Samoa by 10.

France v 'tina on stream anywhere?

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Mark Ring's been on the pies...! 🙂

Also, Wales game - On the Beeb? Red button?

Only on website due to ****in bikeists on red button.

Welsh game on Welsh channel.

Welsh game on Welsh channel

Don't think I can get BBC 2 Wales on freeview. 🙁

The France v 'tina doesn't seem to be on anywhere... thought I would be on ESPN... I'm getting a tad annoyed by these pay for TV stations not actually broadcasting what they promise!

I'm sure a dodgy Frenchman will sort a stream or 70 out! 😉

Flashy, found anything for the game tonight yet?

I am a staunch England supporter, but despite that I honestly believe they are going to put one on the Aussies tommorrow.

I'll put a fiver each on:

a) England Scrum domination and
b) A win to England

a) England Scrum domination

Crap odds on that;

I have put a 50p double on Warburton to play 80mins and Handsome Gav to play for Wales again. If it comes up I will be buying a small African state with the winnings.

juanking, no. 🙁 Will try and find a web stream of it. I think it may be an online option on the Beeb website.

It should be on the beeb website.

Says "Only in Wales", but am hoping I can trick it in to thinking I'm in Abertawe! 🙂

Live on BBC Two Wales, S4C, BBC Radio Wales, Radio Cymru and online; live text commentary and score updates on the BBC website

so if its live on S4C it will be on the S4C website too, you'll just have to do your own commentary if you dont wibble

Your right Duckman this thread needs more Gavin

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I have put a 50p double on Warburton to play 80mins and Handsome Gav to play for Wales again

I have a suspiscion he might be asked to go on the summer tour when the Lions are away if he continues to improve.

Henson has wasted his talent, it does nobody any favours ringing him back. Time for move on (actually Wales already have).

If you have no luck on bbc, try searching for a Live Stream Hunter 😉 always works for me

Off to Cardiff for a stag do tomorrow, any tips ?

Henson has wasted his talent

Well two grand slams and a lions test cap aint a bad return, he's also been injured a lot. Did Marcus Trescothic waste his talent too?

Off to Cardiff for a stag do tomorrow, any tips ?

Dont eat yellow snow?

AA - Trescothick has a mental illness, Gav is an orange tw.......

...ig?

he's better built than that.........

Twiehard.
Apparently, he was asked to play tonight but couldn't make it 'cos he had tickets to the new Twilight movie.

AA - Trescothick has a mental illness, Gav is an orange tw.......

so you know all that for sure do you? Its easy to throw stones but none of us know the full story do we.

Trescothick is known for suffering, he doesn't appear to have been the architect of his own downfall. By all accounts he is a decent bloke, was a pivotal member of the England team, instrumental in challenging some of the old ways and helping England on the path to their recent success. Played for one club where he is a favourite with staff and fans alike. Very few dissenting voices throughout his career.

Gav on the other hand has a far more chequered past, more like Peiterson who the Saffas nicknamed FIGJAM appropriately!

Doesnt mean he doesnt have serious issues though.

Just googled figjam and thats appropriate and what makes me think Henson is a bit, well nuts. He has incredible faith and arrogance in his rugby talent and yet is so insecure painfully so at times.

[b]anagallis_arvensis[/b] - Member
Well two grand slams and a lions test cap aint a bad return, he's also been injured a lot. Did Marcus Trescothic waste his talent too?

Glitchyfukkery

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/20363612

Live video from the Beeb! Yay! 🙂

And a well stocked fridge, stew and dumplings served soon!

And, why the effing flip are the Beeb showing Celebrity Antiques Masterchef on Ice or whatever instead of the rugby? Seriously?

AA - he may have but is not honest enough with himself to admit them maybe?

Too wrapped up in himself, which is how I imagine a lot of 'celebs' are. Surround themselves with people who say yes and just inflate their egos, rather than tell it like it is.

Rugby has a fair few who tell it straight and I suspect that that is one of the reasons Gav has had a few clubs as management haven't tolerated his behaviour. He may be waking up to that now but too late to fulfil his ability.

If you want to use Trescothick as an example he was destined to be a good county cricketer, but got a taste for international cricket and decided he wanted more. Worked hard to make the most of his ability.

was just about to post the link for you

what should have been a decent length career

you do realise he's still paying dont you?

Jed Thian on ScrumV! Awesome!

AA - he may have but is not honest enough with himself to admit them maybe?

He may have admitted it to himself and many other people just not us.

running his mouth off

examples? other than saying what he thinks about rugby and saying he thinks he's a very good player I've never heard him say much about the opposition. Certainly not like the crap some england players have come out with. I think you are letting your views about his celeb shite colour your views.

He has only just admitted then because until recently he was on the club merry go round. Too late to fulfil his international career.

you do realise he's still paying dont you?

Stop bickering. Start singing!

Hope Hibbard has bought his throwing arm or its going to be a long night

looks like a long night whatever arm he brought

I think you are letting your views about his celeb shite colour your views.

No the Fake Tan does that.

FFS!

Sweet Jesus 😥

1 point in it now.

Underwhelmed so far.

There's lovely for you!

North's pace in backing up was incredible! For a big guy, he really moves at speed!

Shame about Biggar he was doing OK.
Census Johnson is shite in the scrum for such a big lad isnt he.

Oh God Priestland in on 🙄

Alfie Thomas saying not to play a loose game against Samoa.... should have thought about that v Fiji in his last game for wales.

Pathetic.

wayne Barnes is a gutless **** there

wayne Barnes is a gutless **** there

Second time tonight.

well played Samoa

Have Wales actually forgotten the basics?? This is quite shocking...

Stop the effing boos for the kicker FFS! I hate that.

well played Samoa