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I'm going to a couple of the Nordics this month and the next and I don't want to freeze or get trenchfoot.

Any recommendations on footwear and underclothes? I'll be doing some gentle hiking and be on my feet all day for a few weeks.

I've looked at some Sorel boots which seem good for the price. Any others I should consider? Places I should look to buy from?

All advice gratefully received!

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 9:35 am
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Anybody? Please?

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 8:01 pm
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45nrth - japanther & wolvhammer; they also do 'snow gaiters'.
Norwegian company, i think.
Charlie the bikemonger has some in clearance/offers but very limited sizes.
I have no ides about sizing or fit.
Check norwegian/swedish manufacturers online - and advice on layering for different activities.

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 8:22 pm
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Norrona
Jottnar

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 8:33 pm
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Cheers. I'll take a look at both of those!

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 9:06 pm
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Sorel is the defacto choice here in Canada (where this week it dropped to -18C and today it's warmed up to -7C)

Having said that sweamrs loves her Baffin Boots.

No idea on UK distributors I'm afraid.

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 9:09 pm
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Underclothes for cold - Helly Hansen Warm, they are merino/manmade mix and superb. You can usually buy a full set on offer somewhere online.

If feeling brave, Patagonia Capeline 4 Expedition full body suit... 😯

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Although for some reason the ladies version is more appealing...
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Posted : 09/11/2017 9:20 pm
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I don't know, you seem to be modelling it quite well.

Any more boot recommendations? Does one usually size up/down with these things? I've got waterproof socks and they're pretty chunky.

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 9:27 pm
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I don't know, you seem to be modelling it quite well.

I am more tellytubby than oddball outdoory in the woods.

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 9:29 pm
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Get some decent insulated wellies, ie something with neoprene lining. eg Grubs Snowline 8.5 are rather warm.

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 9:41 pm
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My cousin swore by red wing boots in the winter in Canada. I think they do non safety ones as well as safety

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 9:49 pm
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[url= http://brenig.co.uk/index.php?id_product=25&controller=product&id_lang=8 ]Brenig Woolly Bear[/url]

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 9:57 pm
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I'm in Lapland for xmas, planning on wearing my Scarpa SL boots, plus lots of layers that I currently own, incl buffalo shirt and synthetic insulation

 
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You've not said where in the 'Nordics', and I suspect that there could be significant differences in the temperature/weather conditions depending upon where you are going, e.g. Artic Circle, Stockholm, Hardangervidda etc. etc.

If you have not already done so, start doing your research into what the likely range of weather/temperature conditions is for the time of year for that location.

If it's cold and wet then I would have thought that kit suited to Scottish mountain winters would be suitable. However, if it's cold and dry, i.e. constantly below zero, then I suspect that your waterproof socks would not be a good choice: garments with waterproof membranes are never going to be as breathable as equivalents without membranes, and below zero I suspect waterproof socks would result in constantly damper/more sweat soaked feet than just plain wool socks.

I suspect that the gentle hiking will be the least of your clothing worries: while you are moving even gently you will probably generate enough heat to use the same outdoor clothing you would use for winter walking in the hills in the UK. Instead I suspect your biggest problem may be if you are outside and inactive/standing around for significant periods. If so, as well as very well insulated boots, you are likely to need an insulated coat and trousers rated for low intensity activity in those sorts of conditions, plus similarly insulating hat and mittens.

I would have thought that it would be easier and cheaper to buy suitable kit immediately when you get there, or in whichever major city, e.g. Stockholm, you will go through on the way to your final destination.

 
Posted : 09/11/2017 10:32 pm
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Thanks for the response slowster! Great points!

Unfortunately shopping on arrival is not an option as I'm on someone else's schedule. I've got a decent down jacket and some good underclothes, even some breathable winter socks, but footwear and trousers are are where I'm lacking.

Also, shopping in Scandinavia is usually a shortcut to bankruptcy!

 
Posted : 11/11/2017 5:49 pm
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I've been the Finnish arctic last 2 winters, experienced temperature from -10 to -27 whilst bivvying out so speaking from experience. Just picked up some Salomon Tundra Pro boots for £100 (Uttings, £65-off) - rated to -40C - way better than most Sorels, most of which are basically padded wellies, OK for about town but not backcountry hiking. If you're moving about a decent baselayer under a windstopper is OK, but once you stop you need to layer-up quick e.g. down jacket. I wouldn't wear Sealskin socks in freezing conditions unless you want cold feet - they simply don't breathe enough, trapping moisture which transmits cold. Size-up on boots for thick socks / wiggly toes. If you're active, a synthetic baselayer is way better - merino doesn't wick enough IME. For outerwear, a windproof outer layer and layer-up underneath. I have some Montane Flux pants which are insulated but full zips you can don/remove without removing boots as they're too warm for wearing when active.

 
Posted : 11/11/2017 7:28 pm
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Haix high liability combat boots, gore tex and warm as toast

 
Posted : 11/11/2017 7:43 pm
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I've just got some Columbia Bugaboo boots, not used them in anger yet, but they appear to be decent. Get yourself down to your nearest Decathlon for their thermals. Best value thermals I've had.

 
Posted : 11/11/2017 8:13 pm
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When I was in the army hiking about it was summer boots with two layers of socks or else you would sweat your socks out. If standing still, winter boots (lined leather and thicker soles?) With summer socks and thick winter socks.

If standing still for a longer period stand on something (the green stuff from the trees) or styrofoam etc ...

For trousers long John's and insulated if standing still. If moving no long John's .

Top tip is to open your zip when hiking with long John's and it can get hot around the sack area.

 
Posted : 11/11/2017 8:20 pm
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A pair of Meindle Canadian-style waterproof boots like these: https://m.millets.co.uk/product/brown-meindl-mens-solden-winter-boots/109396/

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I’ve got a pair, they’re great boots, rubber waterproof foot, the leather top is very water resistant and they have a felt inner-boot that is removable and can be worn indoors like a pair of hi-top slippers. The inner-boot has a hard rubber/ synthetic sole, as has the main boot, so I bought some felt insoles off eBay and put a pair inside the boot liner, and another pair into the main boot, to give a bit more insulation and a softer feel when walking, and they’re great boots for the money, I paid £75 for mine, you can easily pay double for Canadian insulated boots of a similar design, if not more.

 
Posted : 11/11/2017 11:43 pm
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Thanks all for the recommendations.

Just ordered some of the Salomon Toundras. I used to run and really liked their shoes, so something with a similar chassis was quite appealing.

Looking at the forecast for the winter it looks like it will be nowhere close to how cold it is supposed to get. I'm not a huge snow fan, so it's probably overkill. Maybe this will be the excuse I need to finally get out more in the snow.

 
Posted : 14/11/2017 1:19 pm

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