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Right, first off everything I know about computers, I have learnt on here - cheers all

So I have a basic enough modern laptop, about a year and a bit old. SSD etc, usual net and email stuff and nothing more other than memory map. All good, windows 10 and very happy with it

This week i'm getting prompted to switch to Windows 11. In a nutshell, should I?


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 10:22 pm
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I wouldn't rush. I've updated mine and it's mostly ok. Can't see any noticeable upgrade but I'm missing a couple of features I use quite a bit. I think I would've been better off staying on 10 for now but I've made some other changes so thought I'd go all in


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 10:25 pm
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I've upgraded one of mine. Can't say as I'm overly fussed either way, it's not exactly a paradigm shift.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 10:42 pm
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I've upgraded My laptop to 11, but have left my main PC on 10 for now.

11 is OK, but it doesn't do anything 10 doesn't do for day to day use, and there are some irritating user interface and menu issues.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 10:43 pm
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It's  not desperately painful.  I've got it on a couple of machines and it seems to run nicely and has given me zero problems so far.  Some new interface stuff to get used to but that's about it.  If you don't get wound up by things being moved around you will be fine


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 10:47 pm
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Just got a new one that came with 11 instead of 10.I can't comment on speed or much stuff as there are only really a couple of things I have noticed in the first few days of use.

The start menu is in the middle of the screen at the bottom so instead of just swiping your mouse roughly in the direction of the bottom left, you have to focus and aim for a particular spot in the middle of the bottom of the screen. Seems a silly change that makes things more awkward.

Copy & Paste have disappeared from the right click menu most of the time. Annoying as I used then a lot and with the cast/dressing on my left hand at the moment it is hard to hit the CTRL key from CTRL-C, CTRL-V

That is about the sum of difference I have noticed


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 10:54 pm
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One of my work machines has updated, the other hasn’t. Can’t say I notice much difference.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 10:55 pm
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The start menu is in the middle of the screen at the bottom

You can move the start menu back to the bottom left.

They've also removed the drag and drop features from the taskbar. Some talk of it coming back after thousands of requests from unhappy users

The right click menu seems to have been made worse.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 10:56 pm
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[i]You can move the start menu back to the bottom left.[/i]

50% of my problems are now solved. Fix the right click menu and I will be your new best friend


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 11:03 pm
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If the problem is your left hand (and you can't move your right hand a foot to the left), ctrl-insert and shift-insert at least used to be alternative copy & paste commands. Whether they still work I've no idea, I haven't used them since the days of DOS 6.22.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 11:09 pm
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left click menu can be solved. done it on my laptop. registry hack dead simple. I can find the link tomorrow and post here.

thing I dont like empty / full folder icon being virtually the same. Would love to change that. Probably done for speed but say red=has contents green empty.

11 is Ok might move may PC next.

RT


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 11:27 pm
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I have Win11 on a new laptop. It feels a bit half-baked. I like to move the taskbar to the left, so the start button is top left. You can't do that in Win11. Internet connection sharing seems to have changed too, I'm sure it must be possible to set up but the old Win10 way of doing it no longer seems to work. My main machines will be staying with Win10 at least until there's a major feature update.


 
Posted : 20/02/2022 12:34 am
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My main laptop has upgraded itself, my surface doesn’t meet the min spec. I’m not particularly bothered.

Copy & paste is generally there in the context menu, it just uses an icon instead of an icon and a word.

Only problem I’ve found so far is that I’ve a couple of issues with auto fill in Edge now. When registering on a website it’ll sometimes hang (properly, task manager death style) when entering data on the first field. Once it populates that, the others will be fine. It’s a bit odd.


 
Posted : 20/02/2022 6:38 am
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Windows 11 looks great to me.


 
Posted : 20/02/2022 6:59 am
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That copy paste right click thing: they are now symbols at the top rather than being named copy and paste.  Wish they had just left it as text though


 
Posted : 20/02/2022 7:53 am
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I use 11 at home and 10 at work and on my laptop. Now I'm used to 11 I think it is marginally cleaner but that is purely subjective.

In terms of actually doing stuff I can't really see any differences but if I had a choice I'd just run 11 on everything for consistency but it's not life changing one way or the other


 
Posted : 20/02/2022 9:32 am
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@thols2

Nicked that 🙂

Lol

windows 11 v 10


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 10:12 am
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Nah, Win11 looks nice, the icons are rounded and softer and the default wallpapers a nicer.

Other than that... differences are noticeable, but minor.

Windows 10 will become 'obsolete' in 2025 when it will stop getting security patches and such. MS "reserve the right" to remove the free upgrades to Windows 11, but haven't made any mention of it. The only risk you run really is MS increasing the min requirements for Win11 but they're not impossible to circumvent anyway.


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 10:31 am
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they’re not impossible to circumvent anyway.

With the caveat that I haven't looked into this in any great length,

Minimum requirements are generally specified for a reason. Ie, just because you can doesn't mean you should. It may well be fine but I would be wary of Internet 'advice' on how to fudge things until W11 is a little more mature.


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 10:43 am
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With the caveat that I haven’t looked into this in any great length,

Minimum requirements are generally specified for a reason. Ie, just because you can doesn’t mean you should. It may well be fine but I would be wary of Internet ‘advice’ on how to fudge things until W11 is a little more mature.

I should have given more context.

The min spec for Win 11 is pretty low:

64bit Dual Core Processor with a clock speed of 1GHz
4GB of RAM

There's also a requirement for TPM 2.0 that throws a lot of people because a lot of stuff doesn't have a TPM chip as such, but it's built into the CPU and called PTT or fTPM, this can often be disabled as default or even disabled when someone wanted to install a fresh OS.

Dispite the pretty low min-spec, a lot of PCs will show they're not Windows 11 ready in upgrade settings because of either the TPM thing, or because Microsoft hasn't written a specific upgrade path for that CPU/MObo combination.

The easist workaround it to just install Win11 via an ISO rather than via the upgrade path, this will enable the on-CPU TPM and as long as it meets the min spec, will install and run fine.

Anyway, MS in theory could change the min spec, say 8GB of RAM and a 1.2GHz processor something, but it's unlikely to make much of a difference.


 
Posted : 07/04/2022 4:02 pm
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There’s also a requirement for TPM 2.0

This can also sometimes be enabled/disabled in BIOS -it's not always enabled by default, (so you'll never get the windows 11 upgrade prompt) especially with older 'gaming style/unlocked' motherboards used in custom builds rather than an off the shelf HP from currys... it will probably be set to 'off'.
Worth checking the BIOS if you are desperate to upgrade and windows update isn't suggesing it for you.

Personally, I don't really care for windows 11. 10 just fits like a glove as I'm so used to it now.


 
Posted : 07/04/2022 5:02 pm

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