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New (to us) house. Very tired windows (wood on sashes soft, water comes in around the leading).
Had quotes to refurb/replace frames and replace sashes (sashes glazed with 8.8mm sound insulating glass with leading applied either side to match existing pattern). House in a conservation area but not listed.
Four windows, each approx 100cm x 70cm.
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Estimates all seem to be upwards of a grand a time. We've gone to specialist window suppliers.
Anyone any experience? Do these seem reasonable? Could I just get new sashes made and glazed by a local joiner and get someone else to restore the frames/fit them or does that just get too complicated?
Thats not a sash window - its a casement
I had a new large sash window made for us with slimline double glazing - IIRC supplied and fitted was £2000
Are they leaded in that its small bits of glass held together with lead or is the lead just laid over the top? conservation area / listed building?
Thats not a sash window – its a casement
Maybe look more closely - it's a sash window on it's side - the windows do not open, they slide.
It's called a 'Sussex Sash' window. Typically installed in houses without the ceiling height to support a proper sash 'back in the day'. The house is 600+ years old so not got really of georgian/victorian proportions.
As per post - not listed, conservation area.
Currently, individual panes - replacements will retain look of current but with lead strips attached to single large panes.
I think you're both right re. the sash thing... there are window sashes, sash windows and casement windows... We've just been through similar with old house and ended up replacing with slim aluminium frames with triple glazed units, and very pleased that we did. Worked out at about £800/window. If we were to do it again, I'd try and split the job in half - i.e. do front of house first, then back. We looked closely at wood, but very strict guidelines around warranty/maintenance and found it hard to get suppliers to commit to costs for making good. Think carefully around internal making good/finishes.
ETA... Ahhh 600 yr old is a lot older than 100... incredible if you still have orginal windows, but aluminium may not wash... anyway, alitherm heritage may be worth a look.
Not our place, but seems to be used widely in restoration: 
New one on me!
i would get them made by a specialist - they will look better and last longer and make them replicas of the original. You can get slimline DG fitted at the same time.
Are the windows original, or do they at least have a bit of age? I'd try and save as much as possible rather than ripping out the lot. Clean off the paint, harden any small areas of softness with wet rot hardener, new timber scarfed in where there is a larger area. Re-paint and you'll get a good few more years out them.
A grand for a full refurb of a window like that seems about right to me.
*Without wishing to piss on anyones bonfire, horizontal sash windows are actually generally referred to as Yorkshire Sash rather than Sussex.
The biggest problem is that the leading has gone - water comes in around each individual pane of glass when it rains heavily, the wood on the sashes is generally pretty shot too.
So we're looking at replacement sashes however we do it and installing acoustic glass makes sense as it's right by the road (given the age of the house/solid walls/small windows and the fairly slim sashes dg's not that attractive).
We'll try and save the frames which look ok.
Cheapest quote was for refurb frames/new sashes and is about £1k plus yer vat per window
*Without wishing to piss on anyones bonfire, horizontal sash windows are actually generally referred to as Yorkshire Sash rather than Sussex.
not in rural Sussex they're not 😉
Typically installed in houses without the ceiling height to support a proper sash ‘back in the day’.
Yorkshire sashes predate vertical sash windows by hundreds of years. The vertical sash was a 17th century invention IIRC
The biggest problem is that the leading has gone – water comes in around each individual pane of glass when it rains heavily, the wood on the sashes is generally pretty shot too.
I'd still try and fix it first. Once the history has gone it is gone for good. Lead is pretty stable so shouldn't really "go" beyond repair. I appreciate you would like something better but it goes with the territory if you own an old house (which I assume this is)
There's a company near me who work nationally and specialise in sash replacements. They will call it a Yorkshire sash 😉
Not used them personally as I've had no call to do so but might be worth a look if they're not already on your list.
https://www.ventrolla.co.uk/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-Kfw0NvC6QIVj-3tCh3wPAXrEAAYASAAEgJY5vD_BwE
not in rural Sussex they’re not
Does the local pub, by any chance, serve Roast beef and Sussex pudding with Sussex sprouts on a Sunday?
Roast beef
From Amberley Angus cows.
a Sunday?
Why limit it to one day a week?
I’d still try and fix it first.
They're likely from the 1920's when the house was first restored. This is from a contemporary article and the rest of windows in this pic are still here.
So they're old but not historic and the specialists we've had look at them say the lead would need replacing, the glass would crack removing it and the sash frames are shot so it's a bit of a lost cause. The rest of the windows are in better shape and will be restored.
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Nice house. Conservation area will be like for like.
We had 2 new windows and a double exterior door made from hard wood about a year ago. Cost £5k (+ fitting).
£1k a pop seems about right, I would suggest finding someone you can trust and take the windows out, they would know if its worth fixing up or starting from scratch.
PS cheaper houses with cheaper windows will be available.