Will I die?

The outcome may feel worse than death...

A pâté worse than death?

If it's vacuum packed has it still got a vacuum? Has it beeen kept cool and never allowed to warm up? If yes to both I'd smell it, taste it and trust my senses.

Yes - slowly and painfully.

I wouldn't eat pate the best part of 2 weeks after 'use by'.

Best case scenario:

50:50

will I die?

Yes. Maybe not just yet though. I do however predict a monumental case of porcelain-pebble dashing accompanied by a trombone symphony. There may be a flock of pigeons involved too. Good luck.

My mum worked at Castle Maclellan Pate here in kirkcudbright for a number of years, the only pate she would eat was the mushroom.

Do it, do it, do it, do it.....

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If it’s vacuum packed has it still got a vacuum? Has it beeen kept cool and never allowed to warm up?

Sorry, should have said, unopened (I know, sorry), and been kept in a fridge for the most part (apart from a journey back from a holiday home just after Christmas).

I have a jar of unopened Korma Paste BB 2021.

Also on the back of this thread ... Will I die ?

^^^ I’d use that, no problem - it’s just a BB, and you’ll be hearing it up too. Crack on.

I actually have 1/3rd of a bottle left of Dave’s Insanity Sauce (BB 2015) that gets used weekly (it’s so strong it only needs a couple of drops so lasts forever).

As I am not as familiar with pate and its longevity

Perhaps the people who stamped 08/02/2024 on it are?

How do you actually enjoy eating something which you can't be 100% certain won't make you ill? Just sling it in the bin and buy another one.

Or even better give it to the foxes 💡

So, unopened and kept cool and no sign of the packaging blowing up with gas produced by bacteria. It's down to your eyes, nose and taste buds.

We were walking in Spain and bought some yoghurts. Madame ate one and then passed one to me. The top was bulging, we're used to bulging packaging because we're often up mountains but we weren't. I opened it, sniffed and had a good look. "It's off" I said, then checked the date, it was way past. Madame spent a day in a hotel room (toilet) drinking Coke.

unopened Korma Paste BB 2021

You probably won't die, but may get bad korma.

<shoots self (yeah that was 'shoots')>

You can buy a brand new pack from Tesco for little more than a quid. I'm pretty flexible when it comes to BB and Use By dates expiring, tending to judge the look, smell, taste method but to save a quid I wouldn't be risking a week on the shitter, I have to be honest.

drinking Coke.

I thought it was just me that used flat coke as recovery fluids.  Survived a dodgy club sandwich in Indo with that. Stick to rice and fried eggs kids.

I actually have 1/3rd of a bottle left of Dave’s Insanity Sauce (BB 2015) that gets used weekly (it’s so strong it only needs a couple of drops so lasts forever).

I had a bottle of that lurking in the cupboard for 10 years. Well past its BB date. If any pathogens can survive the environment inside the bottle then they probably deserve to take hold of a human as reward.

It was originally a method of preserving meat, but who knows how modern stuff is made? Apart from the manufacturer, of course.

Bin, along with out of date fish

Isn't that how they make pâté?

Pate past it's date fine but never......

I wouldn't eat chicken pate anyway, but I don't that will be a problem if it's sealed and has been stored properly. The "best before" date doesn't mean it instantly goes bad at midnight, it just means that it's guaranteed to be fine until that date. If it doesn't smell bad, it will be fine.

I actually have 1/3rd of a bottle left of Dave’s Insanity Sauce (BB 2015) that gets used weekly (it’s so strong it only needs a couple of drops so lasts forever).
I had a bottle of that lurking in the cupboard for 10 years. Well past its BB date. If any pathogens can survive the environment inside the bottle then they probably deserve to take hold of a human as reward.

Exactly my thinking - possibly anything that could survive on the surface of Venus might cause havoc on the human biota after being immersed in a superhot sauce, but I’m not placing bets on it.

Unopened in the fridge and looking and smelling fine, I eat stuff well beyond the date all the time. I scavenge off the reduced shelf whenever I’m in the supermarket and stock up on whatever random bits and pieces they have there, usually cold cuts of meat and random bits of cheese.

There’s nothing magic about a date on a label. It’s a bit less fresh when it’s a week or two old, that’s all.

It might be worth pointing out that what something smells like has no bearing on whether there's food poisoning bacteria present.

How old it is doesn't either, if it's sealed. They don't spontaneously magic out of nowhere.

And cooked rice is particularly likely to make you ill if reheated even after just a few hours and refrigerated. In fact I think it might even be riskier if it’s refrigerated…🤮

LOL

It might be worth pointing out that what something smells like has no bearing on whether there’s food poisoning bacteria present.

Chicken liver pate isn't suppose to contain any live bacteria. Bacteria can definitely produce distinctive smells.

Why on earth would you eat chicken liver pate that smells putrid?

As it’s a “use by” rather than a “best before” and it’s on a meat product, I’d bin it.

And cooked rice is particularly likely to make you ill if reheated even after just a few hours and refrigerated. In fact I think it might even be riskier if it’s refrigerated…

May be me but why would you cook rice, reheat it, and then refrigerate? I've took left over rice into work and reheated the next day without any ill effects. Never tried cooking, leaving, reheating, and refrigerating.

It might be worth pointing out that what something smells like has no bearing on whether there’s food poisoning bacteria present.

Why on earth would you eat chicken liver pate that smells putrid?

I read that to mean “just because it doesn’t smell bad that doesn’t mean it isn’t bad” rather than “eat it whatever it smells like”

The rice thing is about Bacillus cereus, which can be killed by heat but the poisons they make remain. Re-heating rice is considered risky, as it can remain unsafe however long it’s heated if it’s previously been left at room temps for long.

I found and threw out 2 boxes of Nesquik yesterday with best by date of 2014. I threw them out because I hate Nesquik, not because of the date.

I'd bin it, not because of the date but the fact that pate is horrible shite 🙂

OP not been back. He seemed nice.

💀

The rice thing is about Bacillus cereus, which can be killed by heat but the poisons they make remain. Re-heating rice is considered risky, as it can remain unsafe however long it’s heated if it’s previously been left at room temps for long.

My understanding is that you should freeze it within a couple of hours if you aren't going to eat it immediately. I think putting it straight into the fridge after cooking and eating the next day is fine, you just don't want to leave it sitting around warm all day. You can store it long term if it's frozen, then microwave it.

The risk from rice is hugely exaggerated, last time it came up I googled for stats and found it estimated to cause about 0.1% of food poisoning cases in the USA (just happened to be where I found stats).

Incidentally bacillus cereus is widespread in many foods, not specifically rice.

Don’t keep rice for a long time at room temp and there’s no problem.

I read that to mean “just because it doesn’t smell bad that doesn’t mean it isn’t bad” rather than “eat it whatever it smells like”

Ah, right, thanks, yeah that makes sense. Apologies for misunderstanding 👍

That's where Look, Smell, Taste comes in.

You could say the same for looking, just because it looks OK doesn't mean it is. First look, if it looks OK then sniff, if it smells OK, then taste (a bit)

Still actually no guarantee, but at that point you're into risk / reward. And it would have to be mighty fine pate for me to eat it two weeks out of date; not Tesco £1.25 stuff.

Yes you will die but not from that probably. Can I offer you a lift in my car?

Eventually? Yes we all do

In the sort term? Well as long as it smells.ok and looks ok and has been stored properly - well I would give it a taste and go from there

YMMV though

Chap on you tubes dedicated to 'testing' old ration meals, many out of date by a few decades.

https://www.youtube.com/@Steve1989MRE/videos

eg

2018 British ration. So only 6 year beyond it's use by date. But other vids are tested rations from the second world war