[Closed] Wilder Fury

Fury looks in much better condition than for the 2 fights he's had recently.

The Fury that beat Klitschko would beat all the other current heavyweights. He has been knocked down by blown up cruiser weights though.

I can't decide who will win and wouldn't be surprised at a dubious Wilder decision.

I think it is a good fight for Wilder, taking on an ex world champion who IMO still needs a couple more bouts, after his comeback, against better opponents to earn his crack at world championship.

Fury is unpredictable, a hard opponent to face, but I think this fight is for Wilder to win or lose. But I wouldn't put money on it.

Pretty sure Wilder will knock Fury out... its what Wilder does and Fury’s never had the greatest chin - hit the deck against much lesser punchers than Wilder. Might take him a few rounds to catch up with someone as tricky as Fury, but can’t see Fury having the power to win this one.

Might be quick, but I’ll say Ko Wilder rd9.

.... but it’s boxing, so ya never know... 😊

Considering that Fury almost knocked himself out once, my cash is on Wilder...

Wilder will KO Fury. Most likely pretty quickly, round 4 or 5.

Yes I agree - Looks pretty safe money on Wilder sparking Fury out fairly early. As awkward as what Fury is - Wilder is just as awkward and unorthodox ... and can really punch!

There is no way that Fury can avoid getting hit solidly, and he doesn`t have the chin to absorb it ... and he doesnt have the KO power himself to get Wilder out of there inside the distance to lessen the risk.

I just get the feeling that how soon Fury has taken the fight, he is treating it like a pension fight.

KO for Wilder 4-5

Horrible fight to predict, will be even worse to watch. I hope Wilder sparks him out but fury on form is the most awkward heavyweight and if he frustrates and out thinks Wilder he’s got a chance of a points win, he’s not got his old man me tactical nouse this time, mind.

Ill say Wilder in 8

Fury is boring and wilder swings like a drunk at times but has freakish power. Won’t be pretty and sure isn’t worth £30

Is it really 30 quid 😳

Fury is a gambler. Had he ducked this he might have had to spend years working back up to the top table, always with the risk he gets beaten before making it. This way, one way ticket to the big time if he wins, loads of money and an excuse if he doesn’t.

As for Wilder, much better to face Fury now than end up with a mandatory after Fury has had a few more fights and got back in to the groove.

Watched Wilder labour in his last fight but he is very scary.  He is quick and has a face splitting right hand.....and boy does he look like he enjoys inflicting pain!

It's not a fight anyone can call with confidence, but I reckon Wilder levels him. Wilder's obv pretty flawed and isn't that good overall, but you could say the same about Fury. If a high quality HW champ, Lewis say, took 3 years off on a coke and ale bender you wouldn't be totally confident of him coming back and beating someone like Wilder. Fury's nowhere near that class, has looked alarmingly bad in just two comeback fights, and I don't reckon big and awkward is enough to get the job done in this instance - if anyone can pull a complete Cinderella story out of the bag it's Fury but that's what it will take.

Is it really 30 quid

I've always loved boxing, but lately the "stick everything on Box Office" (Tony Bellew ffs!) mentality has meant I've missed a lot of live fights, cos no way am I paying MORE money to a TV company I already subscribe to... so I just wait a week and watch them for free on Sky Action. If I'm really keen to see them quickly I'll order them on DVD off a fella I know. Probably be the DVD option on this one.

Recent form favours Wilder. However Fury is a class apart in terms of boxing skill and intelligence. They're both as nuts as eachother so I'll wager on a draw.

Great interview with Fury.

I'm not a fan to be honest, but he will be, by some considerable margin, the best fighter Wilder has ever fought. Wilder's record has more tomato cans than an Italian deli.

Fury is big, awkward, unorthodox, not pretty to watch but he gets it done. The question is how much damage he's done with his wild time off

Watch Wilder v Ortiz before you start calling Wilder to win easily.  I’ve not seen enough of TF but if he’s tricky then he stands a very good chance of winning.  Wilder lacked energy and any real idea of what to do against Ortiz , who was a bit of a limited lumbering clumper.

Didn't watch it all, but quite warmed to TF watching the video BB posted.

Didn’t watch it all, but quite warmed to TF watching the video BB posted.

Same here

I’ve not seen enough of TF 

Then you won't have seen how easily he goes down when someone lands on him... and if Wilder has one thing, he hits bloody hard.

I know I really should want Fury to win, but I'd much rather see a Joshua - Wilder unification than a Joshua v Fury.

I thought this was interesting. Boxing is just a job and meh. Not seen a fighter recently talk like that.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/boxing/46400807

Fury looks in fantastic shape. Best I've seen him, and he's still 44lbs heavier than wilder😱

This is an interesting one. Wilder may have power but he's a frankly awful boxer and he really toiled against Ortiz who is allegedly in his 50s.

I reckon Fury takes this on points

This is the calibre of garbage that built up Wilder's KO record

Yeah, 11th fight. Really meaningful that! Whereas Fury was taking 9 rnds to beat the all time great, 254lb John McDermott. 😆

The records of both are hardly amazing. Take away a gun shy wlad and you have Ortiz and chisora, and that's pretty much it.

If fury avoids getting sparked then I think he wins, but I think that's unlikely. What's wilder chin like? I know fury isn't the hardest of hitters but when any 18 stone man hits you it's still gonna hurt, so he may have a chance of catching wilder as he comes in swinging wildly.

If Fury is anything close to his best, he'll school Wilder tonight IMO.. Wilder has hard wild telegraphed punches and that's it.. if Fury sticks to a game plan then he'll win comfortably on points - make him miss, counter, and wear him out by leaning on him all night is my prediction.

Wilder does have the worst boxing cv I think I've ever seen for the holder of a major belt - it is astonishingly mediocre. And a boxer beats a fighter 9 times out of ten. Just think this will be that one time out of ten it goes to the fighter - the biggest crash diet in recent boxing history will have Fury gasping down the stretch and Wilder will get to him then.

Fury is box-office outside the ring, despite his nandrolone indiscretions, but let's face it he's an awful fighter to watch - not even one for the purists. Be better if Wilder won in terms of future fights IMHO.

Wilder got rocked by Ortiz.. could go either way but if Fury has the gas to stay focused im giving him a handy decision victory 👊

Heavyweight boxing really is terrible today. Lots still say Tyson was undisputed because the guys in his era were bad ... but Berbicks, Tucker and even Tubbs would have schooled the likes of Wilder, Fury and Joshua.

I am leaning towards an even earlier finish for Wilder the more I think about it. I just cant imagine Fury avoiding one of those winging right over hand right hands .. I`ll predict 2nd or 3rd round KO for Wilder.

Wilder's fought nobody but bums, Fury can out box him all night long, whether he can last that long without gassing and being pretty ring rusty, he should grind out a points victory... If he can David getting caught.

AJ would spark the pair of them out

I thought this was about a car. #slamsdoor

Avoid, not David!!

Fury can box but to lose that much weight so quickly might show later - hard to call. I have splinters.

Anybody tuned in?

Listening on bbc. Seems like a great fight

Listening on bbc. Seems like a great fight

Me too, not a huge boxing fan but couldn’t sleep. Exciting.

Listening on the wireless, sounds like Fury has shut him out. Hang on though!

Also listened, just randomly woke up and couldn't be arsed to fetch the laptop. Sounded a good one, I called the split decision but with wilder getting the nod just because he's at home. Fury is piss funny!!

Hats off to Fury, didn't think he'd have enough physically. Sounds like he rose from the dead in the 12th.

Watched it all. Some flat rounds from both corners. In the whole though it was entertaining. A second fight seems likely. When both fighters were giving their best I think it would have given Joshua pause for thought. A draw means he will again have to avoid a fight with either until a victor here is determined. He will fill the time against less compotent opponents but still max out Wembley.

Tyson was robbed

The real Tyson would eat these two for breakfast.  Fury is a lump of lard and Wilder a one-shot wonder. Not a golden age for heavyweight boxing.

I think Tyson would have won it without the late knock down. Great heart and comeback from Tyson. I think the blueprint for beating WIlder was already made by Oritz and now Tyson has shown how a jab can keep Wilder at bay. I actually think Wlad would have beaten Wilder in that fight.

So the merry go round continues and everyone gets turkey for christmas.

I think Tyson would have won it without the late knock down

The rules of boxing say that you are correct .

I have not watched all the fight - and despite it being called the best heavyweight fight for many years - the rounds I have watched have only shown how bad the heavyweights are today; as limited and wooden as Joshua is .. I cant imagine him ducking Wilder or Fury any longer.

Tyson may not be too entertaining in the ring - but he is pure quality out of it.

Whats worse mooman.. the standard of the current heavyweight elites or your ability to call the outcome of a fight? 🤔

Fury's "comeback" was after getting decked with two fairly soft knockdowns.

Iron Mike would have peekaboo'd him three foot into the canvas. If he came back from that, then I would applaud accordingly.

It says a lot about the state of modern boxing that this diluted excuse for a fight will be re-run with each so called fighter pocketing 25 big ones for a light night's work.

AJ is the exception to the rule and has the potential to be a great fighter, but there is no-one around good enough to force him to that level.

I'm not convinced aj beats fury. Every time fury has stepped up in class he has proven that he is a far better boxer than most (including me) gave him credit for.

I also assumed he had a ropey chin given Cunningham put him on his arse, but whilst he went down yesterday he recovered brilliantly. I'm not convinced he was that badly hurt in the 12th either. He clearly was aware enough to take his time getting back up, rather than instantly try to scramble to his feet as so often happens when a fighter is put down.

As for how these guys would fare against heavies of old..probably not very well. I don't think Joshua is any better than Bruno tbh.

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Whats worse mooman.. the standard of the current heavyweight elites or your ability to call the outcome of a fight? 🤔

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I`d say the standard of contemporary heavyweight boxing is far worse than my ability to call the outcome of a fight; not blowing my own trumpet .. but I predicted Wilder and Fury would demonstrate just how bad the heavyweight elites are today. However, I did get the result wrong.

Well that was better than expected, a real clash of contrasting styles! Dare I say Fury looked pretty sharp and in control in the middle rounds. He got some nice combos in off the back of his jab and double jab.

Avoiding Wilder's overhand right for 12 rounds is a tricky task for any opponent, even though Wilder is a sloppy boxer he's capable of pulling off surprise knockouts of better opponents. Fury did well to get up after the 12th round knockdown and that's what shaded it, for Wilder, for me. Fury outboxed Wilder and was winning the fight had he not been knocked down twice.

Fury's impression of AJ's style is spot on. He will smash both these boys up though. He's just a tighter boxer, can take a decent punch and is a more athletic all round package so to speak.

I also assumed he had a ropey chin given Cunningham put him on his arse, but whilst he went down yesterday he recovered brilliantly. I’m not convinced he was that badly hurt in the 12th either. He clearly was aware enough to take his time getting back up, rather than instantly try to scramble to his feet as so often happens when a fighter is put down.

I guess it's possible he was playing it cool in the 12th but it looked to me like he was absolutely stretchered there - sleeping on the canvas like a baby. Climbed out of his own grave and showed massive heart.

Both fighters deserve huge credit but if anything I'd be more impressed with Wilder. You can say he's really limited, got a generous decision for the draw etc, but facts are he went twelve with a substantially more skilled fighter, sat him down twice, and was never seriously hurt or in trouble himself. Reckon he'd figure Fury out if they rematch.

Well I enjoyed that. Wilder swings his arms like a pissed up Geordie and I’m pretty sure anyone still awake could avoid most of his ridiculous punches but at the same time Fury moves like a lightweight at times - his footwork and bobbing is stunning at times.