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in daylight . semidomesticated foxes now? scavenging thrash ? what you think of them? treat them as other animals ( pigeons seaguls rats) as long as they cause no harm ?
I think they're great, nature adapting to changing a environment. I'm sure some people don't like them, they want thier environment completely devoid of any other species, we'll save a couple of cute ones like ducks and swans, but I'd like more.
I'm all for reintroducing wolves and bears to the UK and I'm slightly upset the gang of Boars that escaped north of Afan didn't manage to establish themselves like the ones in FOD. Although I don't actually know if they were all captured or killed so there's still hope.
Ps I've been drinking
Love em. We get a few round here. A few years back we had a litter that would play in the end of our cul-de-sac then fall asleep on the roof of one of the cars. Only seen one every couple if weeks recent though. Nice that nature finds a way.
We've got a fox den in the garden - love them, especially the cute little ones in the spring. We've also had a sparrowhawk in the garden, a parrot, and a heron pinched all this year's frogs from the pond.
Not bad for being in Glasgow, not even the suburbs 😉
They are even more obsessed with shitting in my flower beds than next door's cats are.
****ing things.
Not a fan, they stink and the dog rolls in their poo. They also leave pigeons in the garden that the dog finds and then hides in the house. There's a mangy one that sits in our front garden and just stares at you - it's a bit sad.
When I lived in town I saw loads. I've always enjoyed seeing them around despite the fact they empty the bins and make one hell of a racket in mating season!
Now I live in a village I very rarely see them. Guess they follow the kebab vans.
Used to see loads when I lived in Leicester, especially on the walk home from the pub.
Don't see so many where I live in Leeds, but I think they're great. Love seeing them.
We've hounded them out of the country - whatdya expect a resourceful adaptable animal to do? Move in with the enemy of course! Power to their twitchy noses I say!
They wake me up at around 3am doing laps around out house chasing each other. Despite being woken I usually spend a good 20 mins watching them from the bedroom window. I like them despite the stinking poo
bringing back wolves and bears back to uk?! I dont think its possible really.
Where exactly in uk is place where a pack of wolves would be able to survive without killing sheeps ?! Come on please. I am not UK citizen and in my country (Czech Republic) we have a much larger uninhabited forested areas and substantially larger forests yet hardly any stable population wolves (just 5 in 2010 due to illegal hunting sadly). There are bears and wolves in Tatra mountains in Slovakia though. Sometimes some rare single bear occasionally cross borderes to czech but thats about it. We have about 3 Lynx cats in Sumava mountains I think.
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Yup Foxes in central London, just off Kings Road near Sloane Square. Very large healthy animals, so much food.
In my view they are going to be a very big problem in the future, their behaviour has already changed from largely nocturnal animals to roaming around in daylight. It seems only a matter of time before they are confident enough to confront humans especially children. As someone who grew up in the country we where used to hunting them with hounds as well as shooting them. They are pests not cute "pets"
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Compared to dogs, foxes are a non-problem.
There are bears in the middle of Italy??
apparently yes.In Alps region and also Apenines mountains which is big area!
The Marsican brown bear is a sub species of the European Brown bear and their are only believed to be 50 left in the world and these are in the Apennines of Central Southern Italy. The Marsican bears are in serious danger of extinction.
Love foxes, a few years ago a fox cub jumped in front of my bike landing on its front paws then seeing me reversed the jump back into the bushes with a 360. Twas awesome
Where could wolves live in the UK? Scotland.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33017511 ]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33017511[/url]
Let's have some Lynx too!
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My sister has a fox that visits her garden and jumps on the trampoline. Good job really as the kids gave up on it ages ago.
A fine bushy tailed specimen sits on the roof of the kids Wendy house some mornings so we can admire him while we have breakfast. Another one sometimes watches me whilst I practice shit wheelies up and down the road. He looks as bemused as everyone else. However the kids have been told not to approach them, they are still unpredictable wild animals.
We have starlings in the loft too which are making a right racket at the moment but it's great having them there. When we have the loft converted later this year the builders have been instructed to box their nest in from the inside so they can still use it.
I find the whole foxes/badgers/whatever are a pest argument pathetic when you consider what the human race has done to the planet. Get over yourselves.
I find the whole foxes/badgers/whatever are a pest argument pathetic when you consider what the human race has done to the planet. Get over yourselves.
Quite. I don't get the "foxes are pests" argument. As for the being in towns, good on them. They're adapting to a readily available source of food; if you want to dissuade them, the we should stop being so bloody messy!
shit wheelies
Male multi tasking at it's finest?
I think they're great, even though they occasionally kill our chickens. Would love to see the rewilding of a lot of our countryside.
I think they are great. Watched a family of them a few years back. Mum and Dad fox used to sit either end of a row of garages while the cubs played on the roof.
On a mtb note, don't see many of the 'Muddy' variety out on the trails like BITD 😉
A couple of years ago there was a real problem with urban foxes where I live with large numbers coming increasing visible at all times of the day, opening up bin bags and approaching people. Most of this has now been addressed by the LA introducing mini wheelie bins which has removed the majority of their food source, but last year the numbers of foxes clearly upset someone locally because they'd clearly laid poison which meant that we found a couple of dead foxes in our back garden, but also with the side effect of lowering the numbers of cats in the neighbourhood.
Strangely this year we've noticed a significant increase in birds in the area - connected with the cat reduction I'd suggest.
Foxes are pests as they kill farm animals, chickens, lambs etc
As per my post the issue with so many in towns will be when behavioural changes mean they attack domestic pets and people or bring disease. Its one of the reasons the UK is so keen to avoid Rabies as if it got into the Fox polulation we'd have a major issue. We don't see urban Foxes in France.
It would be really nice to have wolves in Scotland for sure. Just wonder how they will protect sheeps though. Wolves can cover over 50km+ distance every day.
Foxes are pests as they kill farm animals, chickens, lambs etc
So what environment did we introduce these farm animals into? Ah yes, the one where the foxes naturally occur.
I bet you're all for persecuting birds of prey too?
gallowayboy - Member
We've hounded them out of the country
What did you do that for?
There's loads in the countryside round here, they're everywhere.
We don't see urban Foxes in France
B#llocks
There's been urban foxes for donkey's years. They're near enough harmless. Loads of foxes in the countryside too but you don't see them cos they fear people cos we shoot a few, which suits both parties. Not necessary in towns though
I like seeing them, normally when I'm walking back from the pub a bit drunk. Trying to sleep while they're having noisy sex in the churchyard across the road is less fun...
It's his urban cousin the crack fox you want to worry about.
We lost our last 2 chickens to a fox last weekend, although it was very decent and carried out the massacre elsewhere, so the kids didn't have to find Sage and Dolly in bits.
We have a couple been here ( leeds 7 ) really comfortably and boldly for at least 10 years never so much as glowered at crankbrat nor the neighbourhood plague of cats .
I can't see them ever attacking humans , the one story I ever heard of it sounded much more like a lie to protect the family dog from the noose .
How can you call an indigenous wild animal a pest?
Total bollocks IMO. Sums up where we've gone wrong.
Loads in my street. See the cubs playing on the grass when I'm leaving very early AM at the weekend for biking. Stunning creatures.
Had a couple of innocent close encounters with them over the years. Had an injured one come right up to me one day. Back leg was heavily injured. Gave him some food and he went back into the undergrowth. Also had one follow me for ages one night when I was walking my spaniel when he was just a young pup. I'd stop and the fox would hide then pop his head out to see where we were. Very cool animals.
As I was leaving for work this morning (4am!) there were 2 foxes and a badger over the road, not doing much just having a sniff about together. And I've seen a few hedgehogs too. It's like farthing wood. 🙂
This is in the Bristol burbs, there are some woods 1/4 mile away which I'm guessing it's where they all hang out.
I've met foxes a few times when exploring places at night too - they've never been scared or bothered, they just trot past and carry on with what they're doing.
How can you call an indigenous wild animal a pest?
Total bollocks IMO. Sums up where we've gone wrong.
Agreed. Same argument regarding lynx wolves etc for me. Stupid stupid humans.
Have foxes in next-door garden, beautiful animals, hopefully will be some pups playing in the sun soon. Love watching them curled up snoozing in the sun.
We have a den next door and usually see cubs playing in our garden from about now, this being Sheffield Crookes. I much prefer them to the student's cats which do shit all over my garden.Every girlie student , when she moves away from home, buys a likkle kitty which then shits in my garden. This is not an assumption , I see them in action regularly ( note - no pussy jokes ]
Last week me and some chums were setting off for our yearly bike trip abroad so a very early airport call when we saw a badger on our road 4 am-ish. I had heard they were around but didn't realise they had become so urban
Foxes are great. Leave them alone. I have quite a few around me and love seeing them.
We intruded on them not the other way around.
http://www.connexionfrance.com/Foxes-Paris-Jardin-Luxembourg-Boulogne-Garot-London-14288-view-article.html
Although I read that, I know that it's all lies because, as we already know, there are no urban foxes in France
#jambafact.
gallowayboy - Member
We've hounded them out of the country - whatdya expect a resourceful adaptable animal to do? Move in with the enemy of course! Power to their twitchy noses I say!
Often see them out in the lanes at night while driving to the pub. Not so many in town, although they're occasionally seen crossing roads, but because Chippenham is a rural market town which has open countryside all around, the foxes don't have much need to come into town.
Foxes can wreak havoc on a chicken pen, they'll destroy many just because they can, and just eat bits of others, which is distressing to the owners of the chickens.
They can and will go after new-born lambs, just like dogs will; they are canines after all.
Badgers are becoming a nuisance as well, there are so many now they're threatening animals like hedgehogs, they're about the only carnivore that can rip open a hedgehog, and they'll go after ground-nesting birds like lapwings, skylarks, etc; to the shock of the Springwatch team, a badger swam across a stretch of water to an island where avocets were nesting, and trashed a number of nests on camera.
Avocets are very rare birds, and the loss of one is a tragedy for the species.
Foxes also frequently carry mange, which is unpleasant in itself. Any indigenous creature can become a pest when it's numbers run out of control, particularly when there is no apex predator that can keep numbers down; in the case of foxes and badgers, and deer as well, only humans can control their numbers, we have no wolves, puma/cougar, or even Lynx, which might not be able to threaten a badger, but possibly be able to reduce fox numbers, although not in urban areas, obviously!
Whilst I generally don't mind them the mangy, crack fox, little ****er that dug up my vegetables the other day can **** right off.
Any indigenous creature can become a pest when it's numbers run out of control, particularly when there is no apex predator that can keep numbers down;
Apart from the fluffy cute ones obviously. Not sure anyone would argue with the word pest being used if their suburban gardens were over run with rats.
Another problem urban foxes cause from time to time is damage to vehicles. A while back several vehicles in the Kelvindale area of Glasgow had their brake systems damaged. Known elsewhere.
Foxes can wreak havoc on a chicken pen, they'll destroy many just because they can, and just eat bits of others, which is distressing to the owners of the chickens.
No, because they kill them to return later for more food. If they didn't the prey would have moved on and they may go hungry. The fact that humans penned them in the fox is oblivious to.
They can and will go after new-born lambs, just like dogs will; they are canines after all.
Because it's food that we've kindly provided them.
Sat fishing on the beach at Meadfoot a few years ago and a small one came up and started pinching the live prawns I was using for bait out of my bucket.
Little bugger even chased an undersized bass I threw back into the sea.
Heh, I used to fish at Meadfoot. Ridiculous amount of seaweed if I remember correctly.
Anyhow, all creatures are great. Apart from Magpies, obviously.
Not a big fan, leave poop everywhere and wake me up playing in the garden. Just an inconveniance to us but the couple next door have young kids and don't let them play unsupervised in their garden. Happy to see anything else in our garden.
jambalaya - Member
Yup Foxes in central London, just off Kings Road near Sloane Square. Very large healthy animals, so much food.In my view they are going to be a very big problem in the future, their behaviour has already changed from largely nocturnal animals to roaming around in daylight. It seems only a matter of time before they are confident enough to confront humans especially children. As someone who grew up in the country we where used to hunting them with hounds as well as shooting them. They are pests not cute "pets"
That's nonsense, there's always been foxes out in the gardens and streets where I live, for as long I can remember, they don't cause any hassle beyond a bit of squealling at night, they keep themselves to themselves and cause no harm. (They don't even raid the bins, still black bags in thisclose no wheely bins, so it's rip for it, but they don't touch them, it's the seagulls that like ripping bins apart.)
If they were going to confront humans, you'd have heard loads of stories about it, there is and always have been plenty of suburban foxes, they're harmless, a good part of inner city wildlife, which is pretty diverse, I love the sheer amount of different animal I can see just by looking out the window.
Mon the foxes! 🙂
It seems only a matter of time before they are confident enough to confront humans especially children. As someone who grew up in the country we where used to hunting them with hounds as well as shooting them. They are pests not cute "pets"
That is the kind of nonsensical, alarmist, bull plop you read in trash like the Daily Mail. I'm amazed you manage to leave the house each day gripped with fear like that. The people who hunt them are bigger pests than the foxes.
I do wish they'd have nicer smelling poo, or maybe less-appealing-for-dogs-poo.
That sh1t stinks, literally
How can you call an indigenous wild animal a pest?Total bollocks IMO. Sums up where we've gone wrong.
+1
Always makes me smile to see them. We've recently moved and suspect there is a den somewhere near the bottom of our garden as we often see them down there in daylight now, on top of the usual night-time shenanigans.
Saw two in broad daylight early evening last week, Wiltshire village.
Neighbour left the door open on the chicken coop the other week, fox got in and killed them all..
Happens once every couple of years (she forgets to lock the gate).
I've been seeing urban foxes for 30 years or more now, and I now they've been around much longer than that. Numbers don't seem to have increased to 'problem' levels at all, and media hysteria over 'dangers' are pretty much unfounded, and simply reactionary hysteria. I don't know of any case of a serious attack on a child by a fox, that's been absolutely verified. None of the nature conservation types I know think foxes are a problem at all, unless humans are irresponsible regarding waste food disposal etc.
"They are pests not cute "pets""
They're not 'pests', they're wild animals who are just as important a part of the ecosystem as any other. They are only a 'problem' to those seeking to profit financially from farming; granted, they can be an issue for farmers needing to protect their livelihoods, but so far there doesn't appear to be solid evidence supporting any need for culling, as some people claim.
Urban foxes actually help enhance the urban environment; they help keep down the numbers of rats, and help control domestic cats, who aren't keen on staying out at night in areas where there are foxes. This helps reduce the destruction that cats do to wild bird and small rodent populations, which is far, far more destructive than anything foxes do in nature, and posing a serious problem to the survival of some species.
"As someone who grew up in the country we where used to hunting them with hounds as well as shooting them."
I've known quite a few hunt saboteurs, and support the use of necessary direct action against anyone who wishes to kill wild creatures purely for sport or through ignorance.
Can I just say, that as I more at risk from being bitten by a human...
Humans
Often see them out in the lanes at night while driving to the pub. Not so many in town, although they're occasionally seen crossing roads...are becoming a nuisance as well, there are so many now they're threatening animals...also frequently carry disease
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I see foxes on the way to the gym (6am) sometimes. They like bins by the Chippy I reckon.
I also see Badgers out and about on nightrides, generally see them a couple of times a year.
Bloomin' ace...
It's not like they are bears or mountain lions are they...talking of which..
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media hysteria over 'dangers' are pretty much unfounded, and simply reactionary hysteria
As jambalaya points out they are mutating. It's only a matter of time.
Daily Mail readers are at particular risk I hear.
I also see Badgers out and about on nightrides
Anyone else read that the alternative way? 😀
Yeah I was a bit like that Revs when I read Jambalaya's post.
A fox enjoying breakfast at Butlins, about the same time the kids were tucking into theirs
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Seen one of my foxes last night, happily plodding along outside my window, i gave it a wee clicking sound and it actually sat down for a few minutes looking at me, which was pretty cool. It looked a bit fatter than usual, so I think it's a vixen and pregnant and i'll see a few more in the coming months. 🙂
We had some in our garden - had them shot.
Why do Tories seem to hate foxes so much? Is it coz they is red?
Ironically the MP who imo had the coolest name [i]ever[/i] was the Tory MP Marcus Fox.
Why do Tories seem to hate foxes so much? Is it coz they is red?
Nah, it is because they are scroungers!
no one yet mentioned the Monkey Dust sketch on foxes?
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Nah, it is because they are scroungers!
Erm, I think you'll find you've placed your abode on their hunting ground.
Besides all property is theft.....you don't have to be as cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University to know that.
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