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Okay I have got the bugger out. All the photos of engines on engine stands show them with the transmission and clutch removed. I have undone the bolts I can see between the main block and the clutch housing.
Nothing moves.
What is left to take off?
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It is a Honda Integra engine if that makes a difference
Have you belted it one?
Yup
Glue?
I thought it had already fallen apart, hence the taking it out of the car?
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the gasket is doing it's job isn't it? Sealing it all together?
I'd put money on liquid gasket holding it all together. That said, I'd get a book or get on one of the Honda forums. If there is a bolt or stud you have missed, you will not be happy.
Yep that looks like Hylomar type liquid gasket material which has much the same effect as silicone sealant does in holding things together. Many clutch bell housings are also located on dowels that stick out from the block.
You will need to gently prise the two apart using a couple of thin wedges, don't go mad or you "WILL" crack something you don't want to.
what overshoot says, usually on location pegs or dowels. Carefull use of wedges, small chisel or old screwdriver and working bit by bit, side by side should free it.
Get ready to catch, or put it down on the floor 😉
John @ the Mabie bike shop has just dropped a tuned one of them into his old Civic 😈
Hang on. Is that a V-Tech engine that's gone boom? I thought Honda claim that they've never had one fail...?
Think he forgot o fill with oil 🙄
As above. Work round it slowly with a very sharp flat-bladed screwdriver.
Very odd sight to see a Teg's heart being worked on, them things are super solid (just not as solid as my VVTLI ;))
Id love to take it off his hands for a kit car 🙂
If you can somehow operate the clutch, the pressure will break the seal in short order... it's how i used to do it.. now i just pay a man 😀
coffeeking - that may be an option if I can't split the fekker
you can, just start at the easiest bit to get a driver in, leave it in there and move on with the next screwdriver. Of course if you've not undone a bolt this is a good way of cracking either block or bellhousing, so make very sure first ! 😀
If you can somehow operate the clutch, the pressure will break the seal in short order... it's how i used to do it.. now i just pay a man
That's a good idea if you have a block-mounted slave cyl for the clutch. Paying people is no fun, and you can't trust 90% of them!
Hang on. Is that a V-Tech engine that's gone boom? I thought Honda claim that they've never had one fail...?
They haven't or at least none that they know of.
Check you have actually done all the bolts/ fixings too... the times ive swung on bellhousings with crowbars inserted for hours on end, only to discover a hidden teeny tiny ten mill set screw holding on a tin plate sh*t shield and ultimately holding the box solidly to the block... 😳
It is the V-Tec bit that has never failed.
Any muppet can kill an engine if they run it without enough oil.
Hang on. Is that a V-Tech engine that's gone boom? I thought Honda claim that they've never had one fail...?
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The V-tech mechanism itself has never failed according to Honda. The block could be in a thousand pieces...
The Flying Ox - Member
Hang on. Is that a V-Tech engine that's gone boom
BigBikeBash - Member
It is the V-Tec bit that has never failed
Aghhh..!
Its vtec not 'v-tech' or 'v-tec' 😆
I had a b18 in my mk2 cr-x siR 8) , then moved onto a dc2 jdm itr, which is still the best car I have owned.
Silly question but you sure you've got all the bolts out? Im sure there's one or two that go in from the other side to the rest, been a long long time since i've done it so can't remember clearly.
I can remember it didn't take much getting off tho, just a bit of resistance from the dowels/sealant.
Good luck!
What's the engine out for btw?
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Done it.
There was a fitting bolted on with 2 bolts. I undid the first and it was an inch long and wouldn't reach the block so I ignored the other one. The other one was 5 inches long and was holding it all together.
Victory is nearly mine
Victory is only yours when it's back together and working!
Hence 'nearly'
I just need to get it onto the engine stand and then I can leave it in the corner of the garage for three years before flogging it all for scrap.
My bid is 3
That's how many bolts / nuts / springs / bits he has left over once it's all back together!
I reckon no bolts will be left out on the following observations.
He has a Teg so clearly likes a decent car.
He is into bikes and all bike people who tinker with bike parts are meticulous with how things go back together.
I just have faith!
Good luck fella.
Pik n Mix - thanks for the vote of confidence but I think you are very, very wrong
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Yeah, I have got it all back together. And I have all these spares left over...
Damn, looks like no kit car engine for me then!
coffeeking - Member
Damn, looks like no kit car engine for me then!
They spin the wrong way round for most front engine/rwd (eg locost 7) type installations anyway...
I'd like to drop a b16/18 in a mini tho.
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I'm not going the locost route anyway 🙂
Mid engined?
What ya building?
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I'm working on my own design inspired by an atom. My donor will likely be a 3S GTE as I know it well.
Is that the gt4/mr2 turbo engine?
You go on locostbuilders? A few atom inspired home builds on there too...
Best of luck.
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Yup. I have a GT4 that I was going to use as a donor, wanted to go down the 4WD route but can't find a nice way to package a transverse front-engined 4WD system! So I may just find a cheap MR2 donor and rear-mount it instead. I've been on a few sites, I'm keeping my inspiration open and reading through the IVA regulations!
I can't understand why anyone would seal/gasket/hylomar/silicone this Gearbox to the Engine, no reason for it whatsoever!!!!
andydicko - agreed, if anything it makes heat transfer from case to case worse and could cause warping. Might be like that from stock though, some manufacturers have odd habits.
Coffeeking, I've been in the Car trade for 24 years in a Technical Capacity (Technical Manager for a Manufacturer) and I've never seen it before!!!! Possibly trying to hide something!
coffeeking:
seen this?
- the lad that built it came to the last FDMC autosolo (see [url= http://www.fdmc.org.uk/summersolo2010repa.php ]event report[/url] for info on this cheap motorsport). looks quite neat as a prototype..
still beat it in my old mr2 though 😉 though have been doing solo's for while and James needs to get his eye in to do good times in the wr4
Nick
Does this help?Have a look at the last line of the thread
http://www.team-integra.net/forum/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=15&TopicID=192116
Not sure if that's the answer though.
Any update on this BBB?
rootes, any more info on the chain drive/engine setup in that car? Nice layout but can't see too mcuh else.
all bike people who tinker with bike parts are meticulous with how things go back together.
HAH!