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I am thinking Gove as he seems to be the hit man of PMs, what's your thoughts?
My money's on Starmer.
Conservatives will eat themselves over the next week.
Probably mordaunt, but whoever it is this chaos will continue
How is that lettuce doing at the moment?
Boris! Johnson!
Mad Nads is already wanting Bozo back.
It's worrying when Boris looks like a good choice for stability!
David Attenborough is our only hope.
But I fear st66 answer is a more likely reality.
Hunt has apparently ruled himself out
No idea but they can't be worse than Truss......
I'm wrong aren't I.
Mordaunt, then Starmer.
Hunt has apparently ruled himself out
As has Gove apparently.
Rishi I reckon.
Larry the cat !
They al p155 in the same pot - until the whole political system is completely reformed we'll continue with this circus regardless of who is 'in charge'.
Dig up an old one?
Not *that old one I hope
They want their rabid racist voters back , so it will be Braverman.
Sunak would make sense as the highest polling amongst MPs last time.
Braverman and badenoch (sp) have both said they will stand. Probably get about 10 mp's to vote for them between them
I think Mordaunt. With Sunak in a top job (maybe Chancellor and shove Hunt back to Health for a laugh).
Rishi, according to members of his campaign team
Surprised to see Sunak narrowly ahead in the odds, the Tories usually like more of a change from previous regimes...
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-prime-minister-after-liz-truss
We need a boring competent option like John Major. But do the Tories do boring and competent?
They want their rabid racist voters back , so it will be Braverman.
That would be fantastic, but alas will never happen. Even though they say there will be a members vote, there won't be. Sunak and Mordaunt will be the choice of MPs, and the one with least votes will step down in favour of the other denying the members a choice. Sunak probably a shoe-in given he had so much support before from MPs and can claim the high ground by saying he was right in the campaign against Truss.
We need a boring competent option like John Major. But do the Tories do boring and competent?
Well Gove is competent, but he's not interested in this particular poisoned chalice.
Should be Mordaunt - but it will be Rishi.
May
Sunak probably a shoe-in given he had so much support before from MPs and can claim the high ground by saying he was right in the campaign against Truss.
Apparently BJ will ensure that will never happen. Hasn't forgiven him for the "stab in the back."
Apparently BJ will ensure that will never happen.
Lets hope so. The more trouble Johnson et al cause the more likely it is that we'll have an election. It won't happen but the best scenario would be an irreconcilable split between the two wings of the party resulting in them losing a no confidence vote. The other option is if voters hit the streets and force their hand. That's even less likely.
I don't think Johnson has the power or the friends to ensure anything in parliament anymore.
Boris Johnson is expected to stand in the Tory leadership contest, the Times is reporting.
Looks like Boris had officially put his hat in the ring.
Bozo thinks he should be back in the national interest apparently
Who would actually want it? who ever it is is on a hiding to nothing
So, no quiet succession if Johnson is really going to insist on a run off?
Boris Johnson is expected to stand in the Tory leadership contest
This just gets better and better.
Betting odds on Sunak are 1:1
I reckon it'll be a close one - Truss is ahead in the polls but Sunak still has strong support in some quarters.
Wait. There's another leadership race?
Bozo thinks he should be back in the national interest apparently
Did he mention which nation?
I reckon ‘billionaire’ Rishi…..
@binners Thay are crap odds what a crazy world I would have thought 100/1 for that bet only Winston has done it before?
I still think the Tory membership will do it
I think he had pulled the biggest grift of modern time.
Surely Armando Iannucci as he's been the mastermind behind this 'reality' show all along?
Is there a way to register total disbelief and resign any hope for my future or those around me at the hands of this or any 'government'. We are post-politics now anyway right?
Miriam Margolyes would be my first choice by the way.
It's going to be Boris isn't it?!
Christ, he'll be utterly insufferable, gloating and preening about being back as PM.
FFS.
Christ, he’ll be utterly insufferable, gloating and preening about being back as PM.
If that happens... how do the public respond to that? His bubble his popped. He has the skills to get some of the population to embrace their decreasing real wages with a bit of his Great British Boosterism, but for most people that will look so, so hollow this winter.
There’s a standards committee hearing coming in a few weeks that will be live 3 days a week for 8 hours a day with apparently “hundreds” of people wanting to give evidence as to just how precisely Boris is unfit to hold office.
it would be somewhat ironic if he were to be handed the PM-ship just as that was going on, and be forced to resign again as he really still is unfit to be PM
But what about a General Election?
Is that likely to happen / how would that happen?
Just think it could be Keir Starmer how scary would that be, someone else in charge without any plans or robust costings
But what about a General Election?
Is that likely to happen / how would that happen?
Interesting Question, if Mordunt or Rishi get in, they'll probably have to call a GE within 6 months I reckon, if BJ actually has the front to run and subsequently wins?!? I've no doubt he'll claim his mandate from 2019 stands.
Is this Leadership run-off even going to the Tory membership though? will it not just be Tory MPs voting for a figure to unite behind?
Just think it could be Keir Starmer how scary would that be, someone else in charge without any plans or robust costings
Indeed, Just Imagine that... 🙂
Just think it could be Keir Starmer how scary would that be, someone else in charge without any plans or robust costings
I genuinely can't tell if this is supposed to be a joke.
I genuinely can’t tell if this is supposed to be a joke.
I assumed it was a joke TBH.
Anyway, new leader in post by next Friday must mean no membership vote.
I genuinely can’t tell if this is supposed to be a joke.
How to tell if any comment about UK politics is a joke:
Yes.
I genuinely can’t tell if this is supposed to be a joke.
Halfway between the two.
It looks like Labour could end up in power just because its harder to do any worse rather than by proving they have robust costed plans.
Unless I have missed something, and they have published robust costed plans?
If labour push green energy they will walk it. Different thread perhaps
It looks like Labour could end up in power just because its harder to do any worse rather than by proving they have robust costed plans.
Unless I have missed something, and they have published robust costed plans?
They don't do that until there's an election set.
Farage. And then they can finally drop the pretense.
They don’t do that until there’s an election set.
Fair enough but over the last year all they have done is slag off the Tories, rather than offer constructive alternative, but I guess thats British politics these days.
For what its worth, I think we need a change, as quite clearly the Tories are out of ideas.
New leader in place within a week?? So won't be going to members vote assumedly, so will be down to the vote of MPs only - then it'll be Boris
It was mentioned numerous times from different sources inthe last week that the majority of MPs want Boris back in Power...
If that doesn't cause riots nothing will....
New leader in place within a week?? So won’t be going to members vote assumedly, so will be down to the vote of MPs only – then it’ll be Boris
It was mentioned numerous times from different sources inthe last week that the majority of MPs want Boris back in Power…
If that doesn’t cause riots nothing will….
MPs voted him out. I would say he's got a stronger mandate from the public than any other candidate, but that doesn't matter. it'll be Rishi imo..
Halfway between the two.
It looks like Labour could end up in power just because its harder to do any worse rather than by proving they have robust costed plans.
Unless I have missed something, and they have published robust costed plans?
Oh, you were 'semi-serious'?
I suppose you might have a point if living under Tory rule wasn't already terrifying. Hunt's apparent shoring up of the budget after the "Fiscal event" was still ~£13B short wasn't it? So it's not like there's currently a "costed plan" is there...
I think they are still making the rules up. I heard on Radio 4 something about a shortlist by Monday and then maybe members vote by email for the shortlist. I suspect there will be a shortlist of 1 presented to the members after some dodgy behind the scenes deal making amongst the factions preference
Fair enough but over the last year all they have done is slag off the Tories, rather than offer constructive alternative, but I guess thats British politics these days.
No. They have announced many policies and have done too much work making sure they have costed every single one. Plenty of policies... on green energy and NHS staffing to name two of many... and every single one coming with an idea of how it will be funded well beyond anything the Conservatives have offered when they make up their policies on the fly. Come an election, just like previous elections, the Labour manifesto will come supported by a full costing document... where as the Tories will just publish a wish list. And still some people honestly think that is the Tories that are careful with our money... maddening.
Who would be the worst from a Labour point of view?
I think Boris and Rishi have too much baggage so imo Mordunt
It’s going to be Boris isn’t it?!
He will have to get on a plane and get back to the country. He is currently serving his constituents as their MP from a beach in the Caribbean as turning up for work is not his forte.
Who would be the worst from a Labour point of view?
I think Boris and Rishi have too much baggage so imo Mordunt
That's my thought as well.
I'm hoping no one can paper over the cracks and convince the voters to give them more time though.
It won't be either johnson or starmer.
Starmer is likely to be next but one; labour don't have a path to forcing a GE.
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I fear what the tories will do next - I also fear Diane Abbott holding any cabinet position! 😱
...the grass on the other side of the fence isn't lush with lovely mown stripes, there's moss, weeds and patchiness over there too.
We do need to roll in that grass though.
labour don’t have a path to forcing a GE.
Yeh I can't see how, unless the Tories call a GE, but theres no way on earth that will happen with the polls like they are.
We're just passengers in the clown car until the next sheduled GE.
I fear what the tories will do next – I also fear Diane Abbott holding any cabinet position!
Er... she's not on the shadow cabinet... and won't be in the cabinet if Labour win an election.... but I'd take her over Coffey, or Rees-Moog, any day of the week.
What Kelvin said
Andrea Leadsom apparently
Poll on Daily Mail website...
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^^^ OMFG
…the grass on the other side of the fence isn’t lush with lovely mown stripes, there’s moss, weeds and patchiness over there too.
So very much better than the scorched earth we've got to put up with at the moment.
So very much better than the scorched earth we’ve got to put up with at the moment.
…as the rest of my post implies!
I also fear Diane Abbott holding any cabinet position!
Hah. She might be a bit shit getting her words out, but she gives a shit about people and I'd far rather have her in a position of responsibility than the absolute arseholes on offer who only want to screw you and me over.
…the grass on the other side of the fence isn’t lush with lovely mown stripes, there’s moss, weeds and patchiness over there too.
So very much better than the scorched earth we’ve got to put up with at the moment.
Currently feels more like we've got stuck in the boggy bit of the garden and the owners just announced they can't remember where the septic tank was located but it's been blocked for years.