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Iraq at present, Syria, Egypt, Israel, Gaza, Isis.
Working as a middle east envoy he's shit and should be fired.
He's got a direct line to Jesus
Like David Ike.
Didn't he join the the Pope's team after leaving office, or was that another dodgy-dossier moment?
Working as a middle east envoy he's shit and should be sent in to do his job actually on the ground - preferably the front line somehwere
The little shit
Can I just say that I really REALLY hate that **** Bliar.
I think that Blair is an awful person is the one thing that everyone on stw can agree on.
Mammon
How the hell they can give one of the biggest warmongers who brought death to the Middle East a job as a peace envoy there I honestly cannot understand... What kind of ****ed up thought process would you have to go through...?
Oh and his boss is Jesus. They talk often don't you know...
Can't imagine how they chatted and Jesus said "Yes Tony, you should destabilise the entire region. George needs to feel more important and forget that he has a small willy"
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/10341587/Former-prime-minister-Tony-gets-a-30m-Blair-Force-One.html ]At least he slums it when he travels[/url]
How the hell they can give one of the biggest warmongers who brought death to the Middle East a job as a peace envoy there I honestly cannot understand
You have to admit, as a job creation scheme it was bloody brilliant.
If anyone feels that strongly about it I believe George Monbiot is still offering prizes for anyone who attempts a citizen's arrest. The last guy to try it came away unscathed.
I can't understand why he hasn't been expelled from the Labour Party for bringing the party into disrepute.
"Bringing the party into disrepute" is a recognised offence under Labour Party rules which warrants expulsion.
And people have been found guilty of bringing the party into disrepute and expelled for a lot less than starting an illegal war which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands and is still causing deaths over 10 years later.
I don't understand how anyone can vote for a party with so little moral backbone.
Of course if he had been a left-winger rather than a right-winger he would have been expelled years ago.
He is laughing in your face while reading his bank statements ... 😆
Whilst politically opposed to Mr Lynch on most things, it seems we are united on that thought.
See, Mr Blair bringing peace on STW. The Middle East will be a walk in the park for him after that.
Anyway, it'll all be OK because he BELIEVES he did the right thing.
I think he believes in the power of confession to wash himself of his 'sins'.
Thats a good way of sidestepping and denial whats awaiting for him when he goes to meet his maker.
In power he was all for green/public transport etc- once out of politics he could be who he really is on green/energy etc huh.
If I ever see him I'll bloody ask him how he sleeps at night knowing what hes done in the middle east.
How the hell they can give one of the biggest warmongers who brought death to the Middle East a job as a peace envoy there I honestly cannot understand
A bit like giving Obama a Peace Prize.
@iolo = he wasn't going to bring peace to the Middle East was he. As for the private jet that's paid for as part of his speaking arrangements and it's probably more secure than trying to fly commercial airlines and much less inconvenient for commercial operators who would face material extra security arrangements.
@kona I don't get the Blair hatred, any Prime Minister (inc any Labour one) I can think of would have taken us into Iraq. I don't agree we should have gone into that Country but equally I don't think any Prime Minister would have kept the UK out. It was a US agenda and given the UK's positioning with the US we didn't have too many options. I wouldn't invite Tony round for dinner but I don't hate him.
any Prime Minister (inc any Labour one) I can think of would have taken us into iraq
The French PM said 'non'
@mega indeed the French did not go into Iraq but along with the UK they lead the action in Libya. The French don't have the same relationship with the US as the UK does. Rightly or wrongly we have adopted a very close relationship with them.
I think he believes in the power of confession to wash himself of his 'sins'.
I don't think you fully understand what confession involves. The first requirement is the need to repent, you can't go to the next stage of penance and absolution before doing that.
Tony Blair is completely unrepentant, and he is perfectly happy to say so publicly.
jambalaya - Member
I wouldn't invite Tony round for dinner but I don't hate him.
I would at anytime. I don't hate him at all but actually would sit down to drink a few pints with him, he is paying btw, while asking him to enlighten me with his insights into the world of parasitic oxygen abuser.
Ya, it will be bloody good laugh asking him about "his" party ... 😆
I was under the impression he thought he was Jesus's dad.Oh and his boss is Jesus. They talk often don't you know...
the reasoning was Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and was going to use them.
The attack on the Kurds was in 1988. So it wasn't anything to do with that was it.
The UN inspectors were still going round the country and found NOTHING and said this. George realised he had to 'move' quick...hoping evidence would turn up.
NO SANE UK Prime Minister would follow him into war. NONE. Where was the evidence? There was none and it was an illegal war. Hence why 100,000+ British people demonstrated in central London.
@hora - I did not for 1 second believe the 45 minutes claim. We went in because the US went in. WMD was a total fudge and broadened to include chemical weapons. I for one never believed for a second they had a nuclear weapon. I do not believe he won support in Parliament for the election due to these claims, I suspect the MPs thought these claims where implausible. I also do not believe in the notion of a legal war, IMO all war is illegal. I stand by my point any UK Prime Minister we might have had at that time (inc Brown) would have gone in.
I remember one of the Middle Eastern news agencies running a story on this boy (one of many affected civilians from the bombing of Baghdad) with the headline 'now Iraq is disarmed'
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/aug/01/Iraqandthemedia.iraq ]Ali's story[/url]
Blair and Bush have so much to answer for - it makes me sick to the stomach thinking of the consequences of what they did. Lord knows how it makes the innocent people feel whose lives and families have been wrecked by the war and following instability.
Blair is a war criminal.
Even now, Britain and US should be ashamed for walking away from the country in the state it's in.
To those who think UK involvement with Iraq was inevitable, think about Harold Wilson.
My dad's explanation of everything that's wrong with the world:
"John Smith died and Tony Blair didn't"
@mega - on that logic you have to call the whole of Parliament war criminals.
@ac282, that was a very different era, pre the global terrorism we have witnessed.
@Northwind I would have liked to see a UK Government run by John Smith, but I believe a UK Government run by John Smith would have gone into Iraq.
I'm going to keep reading this as I've posted here so people deserve the respect of a reply to stuff I've posted but no more from me as I can see this has the capacity to go the same way as the Gaza thread.
Northwind, buy your dad a pint from me.
I am pretty sure it is Louis Cyphre
I think that Blair is an awful person is the one thing that everyone on stw can agree on.
Funnily enough I was critical of B Liar on here a couple of years ago and got rounded on by the then big hitters.
Fickle lot lefties.
Northwinds dad is a very wise man. I often wonder how our world would have turned out if John Smith had lived. Hopefully we wouldn't all be feeling so betrayed and disillusioned.
You need merica so whatever merica says you do otherwise merica become better friends with Germany and France.
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Who is Tony Blair's boss?
I've always assumed it was the devil. I still believe the Iraq invasion was predetermined before an excuse was fabricated. The consequences of that are still being felt around the world and will continue to do so for the remainder of this century and probably well into the next.
@kona I don't get the Blair hatred, any Prime Minister (inc any Labour one) I can think of would have taken us into Iraq. I don't agree we should have gone into that Country but equally I don't think any Prime Minister would have kept the UK out. It was a US agenda and given the UK's positioning with the US we didn't have too many options. I wouldn't invite Tony round for dinner but I don't hate him.
I disagree. The UK managed to keep out of the invasions of Haiti, Panama, Vietnam...[b]
I'm going to dissent from collective (well, a tiny bit). During his first term, Blair was shaping up to be an decent domestic prime minister. Money was found for much needed investment in schools and hospitals, we had the minimum wage, the Human Rights Act, civil partnerships and of course there was Northern Ireland. In my book, all good stuff.
A great pity then that he turned out to be a messianic war criminal...
During his first term, Blair was shaping up to be an decent domestic prime minister.
And people sneer at the Swiss for their neutrality. Meanwhile, 100,000 Iraqis died.
Money was found
He he yeah.
I can't understand why he hasn't been expelled from the Labour Party for bringing the party into disrepute.
Personally, I thought when they made "Encouragement of terrorism" a specific criminal offence he should have been the first in the dock. If anyone in this country has "encouraged terrorism" it's him.
It was a US agenda and given the UK's positioning with the US we didn't have too many options
I can't think of a better reason for severing links.
that was a very different era, pre the global terrorism we have witnessed.
The 60s were an era where the threat of nuclear armageddon felt much more real than today. We (UK) were in the process of moving our strategic deterrent over to a delivery system which was dependent on US technology. I think we were at least as tied into the US then as we are now.
And people sneer at the Swiss for their neutrality. Meanwhile, 100,000 Iraqis died.
Which part of "during his first term" did you have trouble understanding?
Who is Tony Blair's boss?
God, surely.
Or has he had a go at usurping that position as well?
They gave him the title peace envoy, because 'bloke who uses his contacts to facilitate lucrative contracts between the multinationals he represents and dodgy, corrupt middle eastern regimes' wouldn't fit on a business card
God, surely.
Judging by the company he keeps, I'd have said Lucifer was his boss.
@kona I don't get the Blair hatred, any Prime Minister (inc any Labour one) I can think of would have taken us into Iraq. I don't agree we should have gone into that Country but equally I don't think any Prime Minister would have kept the UK out. It was a US agenda and given the UK's positioning with the US we didn't have too many options.
It was only because of the bogus dossier and Blair's buddies spinning the info for all they were worth that had everyone convinced that we should follow Bush. Without those (fairly convincing) lies, I don't believe any British PM would have gone into Iraq, and Afghanistan.
And 'Special Relationship'? Seriously? Not as far as the Americans are concerned, they had no interest in joining us in Europe in WW2, until the absolutely had to, and used every opportunity to screw us over afterwards.
Look up 'Lend-Lease'.
the poor bugger's married....to a [s]beard[/s] wide mouthed frog.
FTFY.
There was a good r4 documentary back at the start of June regarding the so called special relationship, there is no such thing-we are nothing more than Americas whipping boy and after listening to the documentary I was kinda annoyed at what was said so I've done more reading and research since, from what I've learned since I have come to the conclusion that American policy and their special relationship can GTF as far away from me as possible, it is not a healthy two way relationship.
It was only because of the bogus dossier and Blair's buddies spinning the info for all they were worth that had everyone convinced that we should follow Bush. Without those (fairly convincing) lies, I don't believe any British PM would have gone into Iraq, and Afghanistan.
you would have had to be bat shit crazy to believe any of that at the time, let alone with hindsight. absolute nonsense from start to finish. i certainly didn't believe it at the time. did you, really? 😯
Tony Blair's job as "Envoy of the Quartet on the Middle East" goes beyond just working for peace, it also involves promoting growth and institutional development to improve the lives of Palestinians.
http://www.quartetrep.org/quartet/
Despite being the job for 7 years Blair has done nothing significant to improve the lives of Palestinians.
And why would he - when he's so busy promoting his own economic growth and improving his own fabulously lavish lifestyle, as he goes around befriending wealthy tyrants ?
Which part of "during his first term" did you have trouble understanding?
None of it. If the UK had a policy of neutrality like Switzerland, Blair would have remained a "domestic prime minister" instead of becoming a war criminal.
HTH, Sweetie. xox
Nickd nails it!
(A few months ago I had two people from TB's "office" looking at my LinkedIn profile on a regular basis. It made me feel uncomfortable and rather unclean!)
If the UK had a policy of neutrality like Switzerland, Blair would have remained a "domestic prime minister"
I can't imagine being Prime Minister would have appealed to him in that case.
Where's the fun in being PM if you can't be a triumphant war leader with an assured place in history ?
It's not all just about establishing the contacts for self serving financial reward you know, there's also a huge ego to take care of.
I always thought the people who said they'd celebrate when Thatcher died were out of order. However, with Blair I understand exactly how they feel, I'll be setting off fireworks and dishing out jelly and ice cream. I hope they televise his last moments so we can all see the precise second he realises there is no god. That might seem harsh but I remember watching the bombing of Baghdad live on TV, and doesn't the bible say an eye for an eye?
A deeply evil, dangerous lunatic and a stain on humanity.
Ahh… all so well put by so many of you that I don't have to type my own rant!
Hopefully we will not be fooled again 🙄
Give him some credit he did screw Murdochs Mrs.
True ernie but Murdoch rarely gets screwed. As far as we know that is.
unknown - MemberI always thought the people who said they'd celebrate when Thatcher died were out of order. However, with Blair I understand exactly how they feel, I'll be setting off fireworks and dishing out jelly and ice cream. I hope they televise his last moments so we can all see the precise second he realises there is no god. That might seem harsh but I remember watching the bombing of Baghdad live on TV, and doesn't the bible say an eye for an eye?
A deeply evil, dangerous lunatic and a stain on humanity.
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