[Closed] Who is making the world a worse place but don't care cos they get paid £££

The act of living is to contribute to the destruction of many things both voluntary and involuntary.
Be my guest if you want to opt out. I can live with the guilt.

I've heard my line of work described as a government scam designed the extort the general population on a number of occasions.

Money's crap!

Writing software to help treat cancer = Good

Making money off people suffering from cancer = Bad

Take your pick.

(Having said that I have always refused to work on weapons systems, despite being offered many times. I couldn't go to work with the goal of making something better at killing people).

Whoever designed this form is today's top candidate...

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when i was a self-employed musician I worried that I was basically contributing nothing to society but a load of disposable music for pissed-up students to lose the plot to, and the pollution caused by all the flights I took

now I work at a uni and worry that I'm just part of a massive scheme to part well meaning young people from their student loans and spit them out into a crappy job market

I could go and work for a charity I suppose but I'm sure I'd find a way to worry to about that 😕

Expat oilfueledtrash here.

here for the time off more than the money - although the moneys helping get rid of my mortgage quick so i dont need to do this forever and i can take a more ethical job - but for those of us with a current mortgage we cant really have the moral high ground that being mortgage free affords

soon as i have kids i am dust with this shit though.

I used to work for BAE, albeit not actually in manufacturing. Never gave it a second thought until I visited one of the other sites that made bullets and bombs to see their SAP implementation. The woman there was boasting about how much more productive they were since the installation of the new ERP system. As in, more productive at making bullets. To kill things/people/stuff. Penny dropped and I left soon after.

I work in nuclear power. I feel like I'm both getting paid well and contributing to the future of the planet by helping reduce the level of CO2 emitted to generate our electricity, but I'm well aware that some people think I'm just out to give their kids cancer / kill baby robins.

It's hard to tell sometimes.

Am I helping insulate the homes of the most deprived in society to do my bit to help people out of fuel poverty and reduce carbon emissions to slow global warming?

or, am I taking advantage of the taxpayer by claiming lucrative government funding and exploiting Eastern European immigrant labour to maximise profits so my boss can buy another Bentley?

I used to work for RBS.

STW top bodz

Looks outside at the Malian wilderness destoyed by a huge operation to obtain 2-3g of yellow shiny metal per tonne of material by blasting the material out of the ground and then pouring lots of cyanide on it.....

That said, I am currently responsible for supervising the building of a dam that is supposed to keep all the contaminated waste in the lagoon and not go flowing across the country..... So my job, I could argue is to minimise the extent of the worse place.....best get off STW and go and see what they have been up to today!

In recent years it's either been similar or making sure the pipelines carrying the black gold don't get wiped out by landslides/ earthquakes etc etc....

A friend refers to me as Dick Turpin due to my job. Always asks who I have robbed.

Can I venture George Osbourne's name?

I guess me as well..commodity co./oil industry.

(Having said that I have always refused to work on weapons systems, despite being offered many times. I couldn't go to work with the goal of making something better at killing people).

Arguably, the better the bombs, the fewer innocent people get killed....

Anyway - I make systems that make businesses more efficient. This means fewer people are employed in them.

I just took an exciting job making Forklifts..... Later discovered were part of a conglomerate that is one of the largest coal producers on earth.

Hmmmmmm.

I've always worked in the defence industry. It's going to pay someones mortgage, so it may as well be mine.

mugsys_m8 - Member
Looks outside at the Malian wilderness destoyed by a huge operation to obtain 2-3g of yellow shiny metal per tonne of material by blasting the material out of the ground and then pouring lots of cyanide on it.....

That said, I am currently responsible for supervising the building of a dam that is supposed to keep all the contaminated waste in the lagoon and not go flowing across the country..... So my job, I could argue is to minimise the extent of the worse place.....best get off STW and go and see what they have been up to today!

In recent years it's either been similar or making sure the pipelines carrying the black gold don't get wiped out by landslides/ earthquakes etc etc....

you almost make it sound a glamorous job ! ..... 🙂

well, i feel a little bit better now 😆

Used to work in the defence industry, employed to hide land based stuff and stop it being seen. Then went to aircraft, then air breathing weapons platforms, then I left. Now a teacher sometimes feel I've gone from hiding the cannon fodder to supplying it.

I'm a lawyer.

Some of our most significant customers are from the tobacco industry.

I've helped offshore a few jobs which hasn't really had a happy ending for those involved. Now the same is happening to me. The only good thing is that it wasn't my choice to do this.

Arguably, the better the bombs, the fewer innocent people get killed....

It's an argument that has been put to me before.
But I don't have any control on who those bombs get sold to or dropped on.

I work for an engineering firm that makes life safety products. Nice to know I'm not actively contributing to death and destruction.

We once realised the life saving aspect of our product could help us attract keen candidates if we emphasised it in our job adverts. We went with something like "want to help save lives everyday?". The response from one candidate was "I'm not sure I could cope with the pressure of that". I imagine he took his engineering degree to a defence contractor instead.

You've all used my work several times today, I bet.

It sounds dull but these are the little things that are actually much better than they used to be, when you think about it.

My Auntie Jean always told me that I had the second oldest profession.

Royal Mail... Think of the poor trees being cut down for all that carp we deliver, like those very annoying marketing stuff every week, not to mention our payslips and propaganda mags from management and the union! 👿

Online gambling software company.

I'm in the management of a company harvesting old-growth trees in equatorial Africa.

Most of the international scrutiny (Greenpeace and other hippies) is on Brazil and Borneo, so we can pretty much get away with what we want.

EDIT: I'm not sure I qualify for this thread though, as OP specified £, whereas I'm paid $

I think I'm the opposite. I spend my working day helping people, usually #NotMyJob tasks that no bugger else either knows how to do or wants to do. And I'd really like to see another 10K on my salary for it.

You've all used my work several times today, I bet.

You make toilets?

I was part of a global conspiracy to impose socialist world government and kill billions. All the while being paid by hardworking taxpayers as I sucked at the govt teat. Saw the light a few years ago though.

Military, so you decide. However deploying to the Philippines to assist with resupply and rebuilding after the typhoon destroyed their lives. I've never seen devastation like it and will always be proud that for that moment at least, I had a tangible positive effect on peoples lives. The rest of my time; I don't really feel that way to be honest.

Another Oil and Gas here. Working in Canadian Oil Sands so worst of the worst if you believe some people.

Every decision and action we take has moral consequences. It is important to accept and recognise this. Many people come up with convaluted excuses because it is easier than accepting that they do bad things.

I have worked writing software for training oil and gas operators. Making their trainees get up to speed quicker. Improving profit ultimately. I currently write software used in tobacco factories to reduce smuggling. I accept that both these industries cause pain. neither job pays massively well for what I do. Much like driving to work, buying frivolous items. I do not like the negative moral aspects of my actions, but i don't try to make excuses.

I'm currently looking for work, the intensity with which I'm looking can vary, which could be seen in different lights of morality?

I do conservation volunteering too, and try and live greenly, and have family who've paid quite a lot of tax from earning above 50k for a fair while, and up to 150k for a year or two. Hopefully my drain on UK plc is reduced a little bit thanks to them - that I'm not pulling things re how we've been as a family into the minus column just yet. Engineering and teaching parents are pretty helpful.

The act of living is environmentally damaging, so we're all guilty in that sense...

I'm a printer.

I've printed things that use Comic Sans and rainbow WordArt.

I am truly sorry.

🙁

I've printed things that use Comic Sans and rainbow WordArt.

You disgust me

Public sector employee, so I'm to blame for the financial crisis this country is in....sorry chaps. 😐

morally bankrupt* - no, but utterly pointless, yes.

25 years in chemicals supplying mainly to the cosmetics industry.

Someone help me escape please!!!

(* some may argue to industry has in its time caused a large number of animal tests to be done, but I've personally always lobbied against and now that is industrywide that no new animal testing is carried out)

I help transport your shiny bikes/components around the country 🙂

Oopps: That's not helping is it.

Errrr, I don't think I've ever worked on something morally repugnant. Done some defence work but it was building a simulation system.

I work as a wholesaler in the media industry. Music, movies and books. Money is meh and don't think I'm doing anything that bad.

I'm ok with what they do, or I wouldn't work there, but it's a corking conversation stopper... I work for a major payday lender. Yeah... that one.

Pays well.

Its as the point i want to say 212472.67% but i wont 😉

Im in coprorate sales, drive a bmw and wear a swiss watch and apprantly get paid £161k salary*, so that naturally makes me an arrogant slimy **** of the highest order.

*see Tax thread

Its as the point i want to say 212472.67%

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1286% athankyouverymuch, and APRs a shit metric because no one borrows for a year and... ah **** it, yeah that's right Kryton 😉

When I started working for a bank people were fine with that, by the end not so much, irony was I only ever did wholesome stuff (like, making sure you get paid) but I definitely stopped saying things like "I got a bigger bonus than I expected" 😆

I drive cars all over the south of the country for a major car auction company. Sue me.

[quote=CountZero said]I drive cars all over the south of the country for a major car auction company. Sue me.

No, I pity you 🙂

Im in coprorate sales, drive a bmw and wear a swiss watch and apprantly get paid £161k salary

Wot.... No Italian designer shades?

Waswas....i dont really get your issue with that form?

Despite being a humble chippy, I sometimes get the arseache with what I do.
Events and exhibitions where 6 weeks workshop prep stands for a day or three (sometimes literally hours) before ending up in the skip. Generally for companies (sometimes abhorrent) who are spending the money on their clients or more promotional crew to reduce their tax bill before the year's end.

On the other hand I also build nice huts, balconies, furniture or interiors for people to enjoy.

Save the planet? Kill yourself.

I work in private health care contracting to the NHS. I've been accused by a patient of "robbing the taxes of the elderly to fund a champagne lifestyle"

Wot.... No Italian designer shades?

Not on my salary. I'd need a loan from a Njee, oh wait...

Supply sensors that monitor oil and gas valves and stops blowing people up. Hopefully....

I've printed things that use Comic Sans and rainbow WordArt.

Comic sans is now significantly less offensive than the use of hipster and hand drawn fonts. (and the pointless use of fü?king geometric shapes)

I draw pictures that people pay to put on their walls, I don't know why but it keeps me supplied with shiny apple, chris king and niner things.

Designing stuff that supposedly encourages IRO 30,000 peeps to develop their career (two thirds of which are on minimum wage).

Messing around with [url= https://www.stem.org.uk/ ]STEM [/url]in my spare time (whatever that is) to hopefully one day inspire young people to create/build stuff that really does make a difference.

allthepies - Member
CountZero said » I drive cars all over the south of the country for a major car auction company. Sue me.
No, I pity you

I try to contribute to the world's repository of knowledge, by reading and writing and teaching, and when you all feel the need to unload because of the guilt you feel due to your immoral jobs, part of mine is to be there to listen.

Plus, I ride to work, so even my commute is emissions-free!

/smug

Helping massive companies find and exploit oil and gas resources?

The money is OK, but not as great as some would believe. Don't really have enough of a skill set to move into another industry that would be paid as well, or anyway near what I earn now.

Not on my salary. I'd need a loan from a Njee, oh wait...

Commission based salary? We don't lend to your type!

Used to work in defence, now work for a company calibrating shizzle for anyone who asks but because of my background I end up working mainly in the defence industry.

Would quite like to do something else but I get to travel, pay is half decent and I sometimes get to blow stuff up (right place right time rather than a requirement of the job).

I often waste a fair quantity of liquid Helium. There is not that much of it to hand so I feel bad about that. It does help to make sick people better so not all negatives.

Overall, I generally feel good about what I do.

Engineer, oil and gas.

Gets to me from time to time but, like the human race as a whole, I'm basically looking out for number 1. That's why we're doomed.

Humble lampy here but this is me too.

Despite being a humble chippy, I sometimes get the arseache with what I do.
Events and exhibitions where 6 weeks workshop prep stands for a day or three (sometimes literally hours) before ending up in the skip. Generally for companies (sometimes abhorrent) who are spending the money on their clients or more promotional crew to reduce their tax bill before the year's end.

Except its more usually a 2-4 hour event duration. Also uses vast amounts of leccy, plus those nasty diesel things to cart it all about the country (or continent for that matter). It's the weddings I especially love. 6 or 7 figure sums spent, then you read about the divorce a year or so later...

On the plus side, I'm helping extract money out of rich people's bank accounts and getting it back into (realtively) poor people's hands who then spend it back into the economy

I'm ok with what they do, or I wouldn't work there, but it's a corking conversation stopper... I work for a major payday lender. Yeah... that one.

If it's the "W" one then I built the system that did their ID verification. Not proud and have left that industry now.

[i]Count Zero - What's not to like![/i]

Man, you've changed since the Neuromancer days.

It's all changed now. The whole industry pre-regulation was pretty deplorable, unsurprisingly regulation has made it fair better. Indeed it's far more fair that most high street lending!

Public sector here, I do about 1/3 the work in a week that I used to do when we were private sector (and that was hardly pressured) , get paid very well and no one bar me seems to care about the lack of productivity. We are FUBAR BUNDY.

If I didn't do it, somebody else would be employed in my role.

I've seen my careers wages wasted 10x over on bad projects, ops and maintenance shooting themselves in the foot and sheer unprofessionalism.

I get paid to find people for jobs, formally IT people, now finance people. Not sure if that makes me good or bad.

njee20 - Member
Not on my salary. I'd need a loan from a Njee, oh wait...
Commission based salary? We don't lend to your type!

FFS. What the world coming to when I can't even secure a 2000% loan for a new bike... 😀

FFS. What the world coming to when I can't even secure a 2000% loan for a new bike...

Unless you want an entry level Spesh we don't lend enough either, that would be irresponsible 🙂

I build McDonalds restaurants all over the country.

er..

I used to work for RBS

Me too but I was once described as a corporate terrorist which now feels like a complement.

I make chemical weapons for Bashir Al Assad. It's going to pay someone's mortgage, might as well be mine.

Could be worse, could be Trump.

I used to work for the Murdoch Empire, which was only slightly less morally bankrupt than The Empire.

I work in construction in waste water treatment and clean water supply. When that infrastructure falls over society will quickly resemble Cormack McCarthy's The Road so I feel positively virtuous compared to most of you bastards.

I'm in this job by accident rather than design though so maybe hold fire on the medal giving ceremony for the moment.

I work in HE and while I wouldn't say it actively makes the world a worse place I'm increasingly sceptical that has much of a positive effect either.

I confess I have added to the CO2 of the planet by now using CO2 cartridges to inflate my tyres if I have a puncture.

That's ok, I always used to use CO2, but gave up a couple of years ago and just use a pump now. We're offsetting each other.