[Closed] who here is pretending to be someone else and libelling me online?

Question is, who put up the review about shouting at a cyclist, and do you also want that taken down ? It's clearly related to (and my money's on directly based on) your recent thread

There's no win on that entire page

That's shit Al!! A proper *s trick!

Most people on here are brilliant. The ones you meet are anyway. I doubt it's anyone up front. It'll be some snivelling, lurking little weasel!!!

I had some spineless little * off here pull a similar snidely, devious stunt on me a few years back. If you're not prepared to say something to someone's face, but you're prepared to pull stunts like this, hiding behind a keyboard, then you're a cowardly little worm. It's really that simple!

Rise above it fella!

So if it isn't TJ somebody is being pretty nasty stirring up trouble between you and Teej. I know you have history, but still, that's not nice.

Can't you just pull it down or make a complaint to TripAdvisor ??

Not me BTW, cross me off your list 😆

That is a step too far.

I often wonder if trip Advisor should allow the one review member

I assumed it was just the owner of the cafe.

What the funk?

That's pretty low and cheap shot by both businesses or whoever is involved.

That is one of the lowest forms of low.

If I have issues with people on here I email them about it...[b]like an adult[/b]...please feel free to do the same.

This.

I appreciate I upset people on here

Perhaps you could work on this.. then maybe these childish games will vanish from your [s]empty[/s] life. 💡

That's crap, but why do you think it's a STW-er, Al? Have I missed something?

EDIT: oh, I thought it was the original complaint, not the most recent post from "Jeremy"… wow. 😯

TJ wouldn't do that but it's obviously someone who knows enough about Al, TJ and TJs real name. Prat in any case.

Poor form. Obviously someone who's been on here for a while and has a grudge against the OP.

Doesn't narrow it down much does it 😈

Guessing the use of the phrase 'big hitter' is a reasonable clue?

None of that adds up.

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I'm going with you being the author.

😀

I dont understand whats happened.. My grasp is Al works/owns bike shop and gives out free coffee, adjusts threaded headsets and will bleed an avid brake for a half a packet of Jaffa cakes. After the visit to the Als bike barn you have a run in with a local cafe owner who doesnt give free re-fills or let you chain your bike to his sign.

I havent been paying attention at the back..

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

it says "street sign". If someone complained to me about chaining my bike to a post I think I'd remind them the sign belongs to local authority and That I will report them to the police and LA for being...

Oh, I don't know the history of the story either.

The Edinburgh defence?

Not me either, for the record, know "of" Al, TJ and several other big hitters but never met any of 'em..

There's a link there to "ask Jeremy P about Cortado". Why not try it and see who replies?

That is shit, it's gotta be said.

Pretty funny tho, but yeah.. A bit shit.

[i]Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.[/i]

This, by your own admission you upset peope

I don't wish you ill, but maybe have a think about it?

Nick, that's a shitty thing to come out with. Wind it in.

There is a big difference between an open forum spat and this.

Al, contact TA if you haven't already and see if they can help.

Confused (not hard) - assuming you are 'Alan Cole'? How would anyone here know that?

Were you directly responsible for the poor review from 'AlastairSn' or was it from a genuine random member of the public that you have nothing to do with? Or is that a wind up too? And is 'Jeremy P' the real TJ or a pseudo TJ, or just another Jeremy?I is confused.

Nick, that's a shitty thing to come out with. Wind it in.

There is a big difference between an open forum spat and this.

Aye, true enough Mark.

Apologies Al.

What I should've said was " it's quite an accurate description tho" 😉

But yeah, the act of trolling is beyond shit.

Confused (not hard) - assuming you are 'Alan Cole'? How would anyone here know that?

Lots of people do though.

Were you directly responsible for the poor review from 'AlastairSn'

I really doubt he was that's the issue.

Nick, not you, Nickc I meanot sorry.

I used to post and come on this forum pretty regularly until a few years ago, now I rarely visit.

This was in large part to due to about ten posters on here, of which Al was one, who poisoned the place with constant trolling and plain nastiness, so I simply stopped visiting, obviously others felt the same way but stayed and now that has spilled over into the real world, which is pretty sad.

I think some posters on here need to take a long hard look at themselves.

Wow,that a whole new level of nasty!

I am guessing that as the original slating review was made by someone called Alastair they assumed it was Al hence the response.

Maybe that original bad review is legit, maybe it is someone stirring it up as a result of the thread on here. First one is fine if genuine, second not.

The response on the other hand is completely OTT.

I posted the previous review under a false name as I'd been threatened with violence by the staff.

why do you think it's a STW-er, Al?

Who else would use JeremyP as an alias, know my name (easily found not on my mom profile) and link it to my thread here?

Not me either.

Not TJ either I wouldnt think - he might be many things, but he wouldnt stoop that low.

The really OTT bit is naming the shop - I suppose that may jeopardise Al's jpb

The original "review" is suspect IMO (edit: I see Al's now owning up to that) and a pretty low trick (remains a low trick IMO) from somebody; the "response" is worse but then that's what happens when people start ****ing about - things escalate

I posted the previous review under a false name as I'd been threatened with violence by the staff.

Well that's me hanging up the deerstalker.

Then it all falls into my place... So Al, you posted the previous Alastair review on TA about the shouting, swearing etc under a pseudonym? Is that a 'review' of a competitor? Someone else then did the same and you accused them of libel? Is that right?

Hmm...

Not sure if I've quite understood this, but AFAIK:

al works for EBC, not Cafe Cortado
the AlastairSn review is a troll based on http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/would-you-go-to-the-police-trackworld - I presume that isn't you al, as your post is first person and the review third person, so who is it?
the JeremyP review is a troll having a go at al - is definitely not TJ, even if he did have anything against al, not only would he not do something like that, it's not his posting style at all

Have I got that right?

edit: al posted while I wrote that, all now becomes clear

Reaping what you sow is now springing to my mind having now read the disclosure by the OP.

Is that right?

No.

aracer - Member
Have I got that right?

Have I got that right?

No, try again slow coach 😀

Do I win a prize?

Cake would be nice.

Unfortunately Al, you've shot yourself in the bollix putting up a fake review in a false name. How can you expect sympathy when someone else does the same?

I posted the previous review under a false name as I'd been threatened with violence by the staff.

Well if you've actually done that (not made up the incident, but twisted it by adding a third party witness element with a fictitious outraged potential customer and loss of business) I think the only thing the responder has done wrong is added your employers name to the comment which might put you in a spot of bother. The rest of it isn't a million miles off the truth is it? You've probably pissed off a fair few folk with your slightly agro online persona over the years.

No, try again slow coach

You're still nowhere near correct though...

I think that it was boblo given the joy they appear to be getting out of it.

Admit it, you're loving the drama/attention. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if you'd written both posts yourself.

Unless this is all behind-the-scenes STW politics - which I don't get - I must be having a really slow brain day. 🙁

wanmankylung - Member
No, try again slow coach
You're still nowhere near correct though...

I think that it was boblo given the joy they appear to be getting out of it.

Don't think so. I'd have to give a toss to do something like that and, well, I don't. 😛

@ BN - in this case, you can have your cake and eat it. What flavour would you like? 😉

Did you tell anyone you had posted a review? Seems odd that someone that you've upset stumbled upon it..

I don't agree with either of the reviews. They're both a bit childish and nasty. There is however an element of what goes around comes around.

FFS! - just had a look at the original thread. Al posted a link to the tripadvisor page a week ago 🙄

Making it pretty easy for your "haterz" there Al

Can you select any icon you like? Why are the AlastairSn / (Al) and JeremyP (not TJ) icons the same??

My review is true - that's what happened - I just used 3rd person & alias to protect myself.

I think that's reasonable after a threat of violence.

Well, in fairness, what of the "response" is actually untrue ?

either its all Al (have you been watching fight club?)

or its Fred (still not got a life?)

when someone works it out can you change the thread title to reflect it please

who here is pretending to be someone else and libelling me online?

It looks like you are, and someone else is too, or they are both you (Al could be Alistair or Alan) and it is a great big troll.

Either way you have admitted to pretending to be someone else and slagging a company off online under a false name yourself!

I've just had a look at the other thread <sigh> Should we also discuss winding the cafe owner up by chaining a bike there just to annoy him?

C'mon jeez... The playgrounds over there ->

My review is true - that's what happened - I just used 3rd person & alias to protect myself.

Sorry Al, I don't agree with that at all. You could have easily written the review in the 1st person as the aggrieved/wronged party and still used an alias to protect yourself. You didn't because, and as a bright bloke you know this perfectly well, a third party version of the event is a lot stronger and carries more weight than a first person account in this case. Especially when you put a 'I was about to go into Cafe Cortado but I didn't because of it' angle on it. The aggrieved cyclist's opinion will always be less trusted as they look to have an axe to grind however legitimate your case may be.

Put simply, you wrote it as you did because 'don't use this cafe as they were really nasty to me when I tried to lock my bike up outside' sounds crap.

Well, in fairness, what of the "response" is actually untrue ?

This.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

And this.

So Al did write the original review there? I'm confused.

Hang on I don't really care. It's all idiocy. The whole thing.

I think that's reasonable after a threat of violence.

I haven't read the other thread. If the threat was so real, did you inform the police or exhaust all other channels in the physical world? By this, I mean something like visit the café again to sort it out once all had calmed down. Your actual response doesn't look reasonable at all, it looks cowardly and vindictive. You've attempted to destroy somebody's livelihood and reputation - I'd suggest stepping away from the Internet for a while to work out just how actions always have consequences, and to find a better way to deal with all your daily frustrations.

"If everyone were to take an eye for an eye, soon enough we'd all be blind"

why didn't you write the review as yourself ya big pussy

Given Ruth Rendell has just died, I don't suppose we'll get to the bottom of it.

You say in your first post in the thread, that people should handle these situations like adults and deal with it themselves.

Then it turns out you wrote a snidey review, under a false name to get back at a cafe you may (or may not) have visited.

Inventing an independent witness to agree with your side of events is quite pathetic, and pretending it was for your personal safety is even worse.

Take your own advice and handle things "like an adult" or don't bother at all.

Having said that, the "Jeremy" reply is just as bad, for the same reasons. Although through first hand experience, more people on here seem to agree that jeremy's account is accurate, as nobody else here witnessed the bike locking up incident, nobody can do the same for yours. (Apart from your imaginary "witness")

...but is the coffee any good?

Does anyone actually give a shit what weirdos post on Tripadvisor?

It's a free if you spend £40 I think.

Jaysus H Christ. You couldn't make it up.

Or maybe you could.

Great impartial post there Neal 🙄

i wish i was clever enough to say it was me.
just desserts i reckon tho......what goes around and all that.... 😆

This is all getting a bit fruity.

just desserts i reckon

Pudding?

I don't think he / they / whoever are allowed pudding.

I reckon this could all easily have been sorted out by just nicking a few of their spoons instead

Can't see the street sign on Google street view . . . damn City tour buses 😉

Storm in a tea cup?

Hard to remember a few hours ago when I felt pretty outraged on Al's behalf. 😳

Pudding?

Humble Pie. Baked fresh today.

So in simple terms

Someone was a dick to cynic-al in real life so he was a dick to them online. Now someone has been a dick to cynic-al online and there are toys on the ground around his pram

but it's like an Ouroborus circle of life pram in which the toys thrown out of one pram land in another pram giving fresh throwing ammunition?

Great impartial post there Neal

I'm sorry, I must have missed the bit where I signed a contract for the BBC and had to remain impartial.

I'm allowed an opinion aren't I ?

Or would you prefer it if I invented a third person to voice my opinion "independently" on my behalf ? 🙄