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[Closed] Which laws would you question rather than blindly obey?

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Just because you're told something's illegal doesn't mean you shut off your own powers of thought and obey...

For me, the BBC tax, aka TV License. Disregarding the fact it's a law to have one to watch live tv, "just because it is", I genuinely don't agree with the power this puts in the hands of the law to demand one for watching other channels. It's just plain bizarre. I won't financially support the BBC for many reasons and believe it's existence has gone on for far too long.

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Posted : 05/05/2017 8:42 pm
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"Hard hats must be worn on this site at all times"

Watching the guys gardening in the sunshine next door today with their hats on and hi vis.
It's pathetic really. No room for common sense whatsoever.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 8:45 pm
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I'm not sure I blindly follow any law. Not knowingly.

I've deliberately and thoughtfully ignored many laws over the years. Generally I follow my own moral compass and refreshingly it seems to be fairly well harmonised with statute law. Where there are differences I put my hood up, don't draw attention to myself and do as I wish.

As do many I'd imagine.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 8:49 pm
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Nice to hear a couple of reasoned opinions. Just waiting for the other side to come along!!!


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 8:51 pm
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I don't watch much on the BBC these days, but I'm glad it exists - it keep the commercial channels 'honest'.

I tend to question most things legal or otherwise, I'm disappointed that in recent years we've blinded accepted "guilty until proven innocent" for some crimes because it's hard to prove guilt. Motoring offences mainly.

I'm concerned that some serious crimes are proven by weight of accusation rather than evidence. (It won't make me popular to spell that one out).

I think most drug laws are ludicrous, dangerous and reactionary.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 8:52 pm
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Well, the TV licence thing isn't really "just because", is it? It funds the finest independant broadcaster on the planet and represents bloody good value for me, but of course YMMV.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 8:54 pm
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"Hard hats must be worn on this site at all times"

Pretty sure that's not a law. Just an inflexible interpretation of health and safety regulations.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 8:57 pm
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I'm not going to wait indefinitely at red traffic lights, because my bike won't trigger a change to green.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:03 pm
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^ that's not the law either, if the light is not functioning properly you can go through it.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:04 pm
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Footpaths*.
If I feel I am harming nobody or nothing, I'll ride my bike on one.
I feel I am considerate and aware of others.

*That is rights of way footpaths, and for that matter, paved footpaths.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:06 pm
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Law banning tandems in Japan was one I broke on a near-daily basis when living there. Home brew was another I broke a good many times. Aren't so many stupid laws in UK it seems.

I do cycle through red lights when it suits me, and also past "cyclist dismount" regularly but I'm not sure if the latter is actually law.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:06 pm
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No doubt this will qualify me as 'the other side'...

But BBC well worth the £12 or so per month.

I happily pay for Sky, Netflix, Spotify, Prime...I could do without these. I would happily pay BBC though.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:07 pm
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But BBC well worth the £12 or so per month.

Worth it for Radio 4 alone!


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:11 pm
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Stupidest law in the UK? First past the post, time for PR


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:14 pm
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Car tyre tread depth is one I can't be arsed with.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:19 pm
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Hunting Act 2004 (c 37)

(Lights blue touch paper. Retires to safe distance.)


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:22 pm
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😀 good one


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:23 pm
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Killing hunters?
😉


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:24 pm
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Car tyre tread depth is one I can't be arsed with.

7inch wide slicks on a car are great in the wet. :0


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:25 pm
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Treason Act 1351

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Posted : 05/05/2017 9:42 pm
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paying income tax.
paying so much for beer in the pub. criminal.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:52 pm
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Pretty much all drug laws are unenforceable and i have absolutely no qualms about disregarding them in my opinion, there's plenty of other laws i have no time for either.

Don't be a dick is pretty much the only law you need to follow, If you ever ask yourself "Am i being a dick?".......then you most probably are and should apologise or change the situation so you are not being a dick.

simple.


 
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[url= http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/archives/21373/ ]Eating fried chicken with a fork.[/url]


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 10:16 pm
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I don't like the fact that people 'own' the countryside. That we're told where we can and cannot roam. I don't understand how anyone can own significant chunks of the planet. No one has entitlement to that shit in my opinion. That's why I'm such a rebel and occasionally wander off public footpaths.

The BBC I kinda like for the fact that they're not completely driven by commercialism and sales. Paying a tax in return for some honest content is not such a bad thing. However, I'm not really sure how much truth is in that these days. It's a fine line.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 10:21 pm
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Cannabis laws are just stupid, even a lot of the police know that people get away with a lot because the police just take it off them and basically apologise for doing so and let them go off to buy/grow more.


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 10:26 pm
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I don't like the fact that people 'own' the countryside. That we're told where we can and cannot roam. I don't understand how anyone can own significant chunks of the planet. No one has entitlement to that shit in my opinion. That's why I'm such a rebel and occasionally wander off public footpaths

I do love a 'chat' with a landowner, generally always amazes me how uninformed they are with regards to access laws.... 😀


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 10:28 pm
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Same sex marriage in Northern Ireland


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 10:28 pm
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Since mastering levitation............gravity its a ****ing myth !


 
Posted : 05/05/2017 10:31 pm
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I don't like the fact that people 'own' the countryside. That we're told where we can and cannot roam. I don't understand how anyone can own significant chunks of the planet. No one has entitlement to that shit in my opinion. That's why I'm such a rebel and occasionally wander off public footpaths

I'm the same but people get all upset about me wandering through their gardens and offices, it wrong people can own stuff like that.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 3:01 am
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Holocaust denial - I find that there is a law making it illegal to deny something happened fascinating.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 4:00 am
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Drug laws
By-laws in New Forest for no cycling on single track (if we are counting by-laws?)
Speeding laws (on my bike)


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 6:09 am
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No adblockers 🙂


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 6:26 am
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The cub scout law


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 6:30 am
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Speed limits. I'm only making good progress and an arbitrary limit sign can't distinguish between different weather conditions and driving abilities.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 6:36 am
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I'm the same but people get all upset about me wandering through their gardens and offices, it wrong people can own stuff like that

Did these people get their gardens and offices handed through generations, ownership achieved through land grabbing and murder? Bravo!


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 6:40 am
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Did these people get their gardens and offices handed through generations, ownership achieved through land grabbing and murder? Bravo!

So ownership is ok if you buy it?


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 6:44 am
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Did these people get their gardens and offices handed through generations, ownership achieved through land grabbing and murder?

Some of them probably did. How do you know which ones though? (same question applies to owners of countryside). Is there a list where I can look up how each person acquired their land so I can decide whether it was ethical and walk across it or not?


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 6:46 am
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Duke of Northumberland did.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 6:51 am
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Curious, do those that buy land look after it any different to those that inherit it? Both look to earn an income from it, however good or bad they may be at it.

Sticking with the land theme, laws regarding commons are unfathomable and barely written. It's possible to own land and have absolutely no say how it's kept.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 7:36 am
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on the bbc subject, i too agree id happily pay for content that i want (6 music), and that the moneys worth it to a lot of people, but i dont agree that you should have to pay the bbc if you dont want to use their services. if youre happy to just access 'all channels other than bbc' then they shouldnt make money from that.

FWIW i despise the bbc's tory bias and would happily veto them altogether if it wasnt for 6 music.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 7:59 am
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Murphys Law , obvs.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 9:59 am
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Speed limits. I'm only making good progress and an arbitrary limit sign can't distinguish between different weather conditions and driving abilities.

LOLZ good one. Give us a real answer


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 10:09 am
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Holocaust denial - I find that there is a law making it illegal to deny something happened fascinating

UK doesn't have such a thing


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 11:43 am
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Survival law ... 😆


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 11:52 am
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At some point they're going to have to re-evaluate the laws governing what you can and can't shove into your body, as they're completely nonsensical, everyone ignores them anyway, and in most places you can procure class A drugs like you can order a pizza delivery.

A complete waste of police resources, ultimately damaging to society in its refusal to engage with the actual problems caused by drug supply in the hands of criminals, and simultaneously infantilises and criminalises everyone involved. Bonkers!


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 12:02 pm
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UK doesn't have such a thing

Who mentioned the UK?

I still find it bizarre that it can be a crime to deny it happened.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 12:11 pm
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Who mentioned the UK?

kinda pointless following laws that don't apply to the UK lol

agree that it is interfering with free speech but they are specifically designed to stop people preaching it publically rather than people just having an opinion. more anti hate speech crime rather than just voicing an opinion similar to what we have in the UK.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 1:58 pm
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Stupidest law in the UK? First past the post, time for PR

That was kicked out, remember? We're not very good at referendums.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 5:36 pm
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For me, the BBC tax, aka TV License. Disregarding the fact it's a law to have one to watch live tv, "just because it is", I genuinely don't agree with the power this puts in the hands of the law to demand one for watching other channels. It's just plain bizarre. I won't financially support the BBC for many reasons and believe it's existence has gone on for far too long.

Usual mistake about the TV licence, just like the 'Road Tax'; you have to have a licence to own a TV receiver, that income is used to fund the BBC. And just what is it you despise about public broadcasting, rather than commercial, where the interests of the advertisers can influence programme content? What a peculiar attitude.
FWIW i despise the bbc's tory bias and would happily veto them altogether if it wasnt for 6 music.

Funny that, it more often than not appears that the Beeb has a noticeable left-wing bias, so either one of us is wrong or they are largely neutral; which is it?


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 6:10 pm
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The 'In', or 'out' obvz


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 7:20 pm
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Anything that takes away my option to hurt myself. Seat belts and motorcycle helmets come to mind.
Also those that restrict most of us reinforcement and punishment means that other break laws. Carrying knives springs to mind. Just because a few jerks use them in an antisocial manner doesn't mean that rest of us do.
Laws that restrict my freedom of thought, speech and action so that others can have one. For example punishing me if I should comment on race, politics, gender etc. Either we all have freedom of the above or none of us.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 7:48 pm
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Funny that, it more often than not appears that the Beeb has a noticeable left-wing bias, so either one of us is wrong or they are largely neutral; which is it?

The Beeb has always been accused of bias, but generally by the party in power. At the moment it seems to be the left wing calling foul.


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 8:20 pm
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Laws that restrict my freedom of thought, speech and action so that others can have one. For example punishing me if I should comment on race, politics, gender etc.

Lol. You can actually think what you like, I'm doing it right now.

I'm assuming the rest of your point is something to do with hate crime?


 
Posted : 06/05/2017 8:26 pm

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