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does it always end up looking like a game of mousetrap ?

Or is it just me ?

Off to B&Q for another bag of elbows...


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 11:51 am
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Yep. Given up doing my own plumbing. The plumbing bit is easy, even gas, but its the logistics of it and routing pipes through walls etc., sussing out what the hell the plumber who installed it has done and why they did it that way (i swear they do it for fun), it's just a PITA.


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 12:05 pm
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I take it you are talking about pipe crossing?

If so then the trick is to keep the pipes clip distance either horizontally or vertically and make the crosses in the opposite orientation.


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 12:21 pm
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The checklist is filling:

Cut hands - check
Floor covered in water - check
Hacksaw blade break in inaccessible space (which is why I wasn't using a pipe-cutter) - check
Pipes ending up too close to clip so thin insulation keeping them in place - check
Bought far too much at B & Q - check


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 1:38 pm
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A drinking buddy in the pub is a car trader, often buying and selling at auctions. He came back from an auction the other day with a carrier bag FULL of 15mm copper & brass fittings. 5Kg+ of the stuff. Must be well over a £100 worth. He gave them to me as he knew I liked getting wet feet. Would only take a pair of pints for it. I love my pub.
I now have several hundred spare elbows. Should last a couple of jobs anyway 😀


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 1:52 pm
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Was that the local up the road, or the local at the top of the hill, or the local half way round???!


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 2:09 pm
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does it always end up looking like a game of mousetrap ?
Or is it just me ?
Off to B&Q for another bag of elbows...

Plumbers bend copper pipe to fit, it looks better and uses less fittings.

DIY's use lots of fittings to do the same job 😉

(and shit plumbers)


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 2:28 pm
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Ha
most plumbers these days due to costings on new builds use pu piping - how ever i agree - less joins the less potential for leakage.


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 2:33 pm
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But how long does the rubber last in those push fit joints ? I don't want to touch this ever again, and I hope to be in this house for at least another 50 years. Once an olive is sealed, it's in for the long haul, isn't it ?

*admission. I had to use a push fit under what's now a floating floor last year. Couldn't reach to get a spanner on it. I'm still waking up in cold sweats...


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 2:40 pm
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Pulled bends do look good, but you can't parallel them which looks worse in my opinion, offsets in parallel looks great though.

Having repaired yet another pin hole in a piece of copper pipe yesterday I'm not sure copper is designed for life either, I'm going back to screwed steel.......

(not true I've moved with the times and like to crimp....)


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 3:21 pm
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The one at the bottom on the common Bear.
BTW - I got my Kane (one of the two I found for £10 at the auction) serviced and calibrated. The second of the two was beyond saving, so Ive taken the detachable parts from it for spares. Kane even threw in a new probe for free! So Ive got myself a working, calibrated, gas analyser for about £170! Going to be testing it on the boiler over the coming weeks and learning how to use it properly.


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 3:23 pm
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I hope to be in this house for at least another 50 years. Once an olive is sealed, it's in for the long haul, isn't it ?

Soldering would be the best option then.


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 3:54 pm
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Ha
most plumbers these days due to costings on new builds use pu piping

I never worked on new builds.

Unless it was the only available option, I wouldn't have chosen to either.

I used plenty of PU though when it was appropriate. would much rather work in soldered copper all the time though.


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 3:58 pm
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TRat - less joins less chances for leaks points to plastic pipe too!


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 4:21 pm
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That as may be - still wanted and fitted soldered copper in my upstairs heating.

Put pu under the floor as under there its only the troll and the pigmy elf i keep down there that will get wet if it all goes pop.


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 4:23 pm
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I was only moving the washing machine and I got through a pack and a half of elbows.

I've moved it quite a way though...


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 6:42 pm

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