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Anybody with inside/industry info as to when the low/midrange cards will be avail again?
Next year.
There's a double whammy of no capacity at TSMC produce the wafers and a boom in cryptocurrency.
Apparently this is why Nvidia is going to release a crypto mining card, it's not because they want to segement the market and not produce gaming/productivity cards. It's just because all they have left is the junk silicone that didn't meet the grade for the 3060 cards but still have assembly lines that need to do something.
They're in stock intermittently and slightly overpriced. ebuyer and ccl have had brief stocks of some low/mid end cards (definitely 1050ti for £180, 1650 but I can't remember the price, and others I wasn't watching) in the last couple of weeks. Set up email alerts / check daily.
(in stock properly, as in choose between several models in stock simultaneously at competitive prices? what @thisisnotaspoon said.)
Wow next year!
Is that gonna stuff the gaming industry?
How come gaming laptops don't seam to be too effected?
I see.
I assume a RTX 2060 on a laptop is not the same as a 2060 on a desktop?
No it's not quite the same silicon and mobile gpu's are fabbed just for that use so not hoovered up by the miners.
Performance wise - are they close? Or is it more about the other components i.e. laptop mobo/ram Vs desktop mobo/ram
I've got a couple of 970's I'll sell for a good bid 😀
I assume a RTX 2060 on a laptop is not the same as a 2060 on a desktop?
Same chipset IIRC, but detuned to use a fraction of the power. So a 2060 runs more like a 2050 (which didn't exist but you get the gist) or 1660.
I’ve got a couple of 970’s I’ll sell for a good bid 😀
They're selling for £180 on eBay 😲
Sell them and get a 3060 when prices return to something like normal!
As a slight aside; I see that you can now get seperate GPU boxes to plug desktops into; I think Apple use something like that. So you can run multiple screens/mega demanding graphics applications without needing some massive tower full of mad-looking glowing liquid pumping through it etc. With advances in CPU design and technology that we are starting to see (Apple Silicon etc), is the way forward going to be in having smaller separate devices that all connect together to make up a more powerful system? So essentially, you could have something as small as your 'phone, yet it's still part of a powerful 'machine'?
With advances in CPU design and technology that we are starting to see (Apple Silicon etc)
It's still just the chip from an iPad pro. I'm sure they'll make bigger in the future, but it's not AMD Vs Intel Vs Apple quite yet.
I think external GPUs are only really a niche thing. Who's going to buy a laptop for word processing, with an expensive 240hz 1440p monitor, and a separate brick to take advantage of it?
Also a graphics cards runs on 16 PCIE gen3 lanes. Thunderbolt and usb3.2 run on 2x chipset lanes so there'll always be a bottleneck.
I've been waiting since the end of last year to see some improvement but came to the conclusion I wont be seeing one any time soon. 'Luckily' my system was so out of date it needed almost a complete overhaul anyway so it was cost effective to buy a pre-built tower.
The system builders seem to be getting their hands on some stock although 3000 series cards are still in short supply and systems with them in are overpriced.
I ended up with a 1660 super + Ryzen 3600x based tower. When adding up the cost of the components the card 'cost' me £200 and they go for £400 on ebay. Hopefully I can get my hands on a 3060ti at some point for a reasonable price. In the meantime I'm finding the 1660 super perfectly adequate - it can run flight sim at 1440p on high settings for example.
(Full disclosure, I work for Intel, but not on this product or business group).
I'm pretty interested to see how the Intel HPG affects the market. It's still on TSMC, so i doubt there's an Intel fab availability benefit. Press are saying it'll be this year or early next.
The heatsink looks pretty fancy and I like shiny things.
https://wccftech.com/intel-xe-hpg-gaming-discrete-graphics-cards-featuring-the-dg2-gpu-detailed/
I'd give up thinking about getting on at the moment. The prices are stupidly high or there is no stock.
It’s still just the chip from an iPad pro. I’m sure they’ll make bigger in the future, but it’s not AMD Vs Intel Vs Apple quite yet.
It's not, it's a new chip that's currently only in a couple of laptops and the Mac Mini. By all accounts, it appears to be faster and use less energy than previous Intel chips. The M1 machines also can't use the e-GPU that the Intel Macs can, so obviously something new will have to pop up at some point.
Who’s going to buy a laptop for word processing, with an expensive 240hz 1440p monitor, and a separate brick to take advantage of it?
Well, I would. That would suit me perfectly; an iPad type device for simple portable browsing etc, but which would connect with a more powerful integrated system for more complex work. An iPad/tablet style computer is perfect for probably at least 90% of all users, outside of 'business' etc. The whole 'connected home' type scenario is closer to how most people actually want to use computer devices; most people are on their 'phones more than anything else. So; a central 'hub' type device, that handles the big processing tasks, and smaller devices all linking up to that. So, if you need a big screen/3D rendering capability, it's there. Along with all your media etc.