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And yet 20 mins from central leeds/bradford you have big, wide, open spaces. Bit further from Manchester but not that much.
Lets get the geography straight here. I'm qualified because I'm objective.
Scotland isn't the north it's Scotland.
Wales isn't the north, it's Wales.
Nottingham isn't north it's Midlands.
Sheffield is north, so the line starts somewhere between Nottingham and Sheffield on the M1, and extends up to the Scottish border.
South is any county bordering London, and south of those, and anything south of the M4. Sme of which is also West of course.
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Its not the South
People are more friendly
[b]People aren't as aggressive when driving[/b]
Sorry, but... are you insane?
I have never in my life lived in a place with such willfully aggressive drivers! I spent almost 3 years driving the M62/M60, as well as the dirty streets of Salford, and wild horses could not drag me back to those cursed streets for the drivers.
For the sake of peace, though, I will concede that the cost of living is lower.
Haltwhistle is the midway point of the UK. If you're south of Haltwhistle you're Southern. simple.
What about Dunford Bridge? Just because there isnt enough niche geographical infighting in this thread yet.
Isn't the Leeds end of the M62 the UK's most dangerous motorway?
Question, not a statement.
What about Dunford Bridge? Just because there isnt enough niche geographical infighting in this thread yet.
isnt it in yorkshire?
Isn't the Leeds end of the M62 the UK's most dangerous motorway?
No its just that its full of [s]cocks[/s](ok maybe a bit strong) lets change that to "self importants"who run into each other a lot and cause tailbacks or the female contingent doing their lippy at 8am down the sliproad
The north starts where accents start to sound northern to quiche eating southerners. So draw a line from market Drayton over to stoke etc.
I haven't had quiche in years, not since I lived in Oxfordshire in fact
Coincidence?
Meh london scares the shite out of me when driving. I haven't ventured to leeds before so cant comment..
Try living in the North West....
Nah!
I not sure I agree that the forest of dean can be included in the north especially with the local accent. the kine should go ftom the humber to the dee rather than the severn
Driving and traffic volume are Much Worse in the North (West Yorks / North West) than they are in London and the South East.
But my favourite thing about the North is the countryside, and now I live right next to it rather than miles and miles from it.
The boundary of the north is the M62. For clarification thats the North of ENGLAND. Scotland can do what it wants.
The south can start anywhere south of that but I'll leave that up to the southerners to work out. Manchester & Leeds are border towns 🙂
The best thing is the attitude and not being in the south.
Dealing with bad weather
Coping with stuff
Not having to pay 10x the price for stuff
Having Plenty of Water
None of it sounds like Essex
and Proper Beer
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Born & Raised in Northumberland 30 miles south of the border. Lived in the midlands, Rossendale & Cumbria
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Village idiots.. there does seam to be a surplas of them north of Watford gap...
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'Seem' 'Surplus' 'North' 'Gap'
Clearly a surplus somewhere...
Bigger portions
Better quality banter
More grit and rock
Id question any map that puts Cleethorpes 15 miles in land of a coastal Grimsby.
Grimsby is labelled as a town (a single point), Cleethorpes is labelled as a constituency.
Grimsby is labelled 'grim'
Proper beer, less smug a-holes, nice scenery, down to earth earth people, hills, ....
No way does the Forest of Dean count as 'the north'. Manchester (I don't acknowledge Leeds)/Sheffield/up!
Born & Raised in Northumberland 30 miles south of the border.
That's where I live.
What's my favourite thing about the North?
There's more than one.
Well It's miles from London.
Plenty proper hills & trails (& not just Swinley bloody Forest.) This may depend on your classification of 'North'
The majority of people don't go about their daily business looking like they're about to face a firing squad.
Ham & Pease pudding stotties.
Decent beer, not that weasels urine they flog down south.
More curry houses that serve curries that are reasonably authentic.
More decent fish shops.
The Yorkshire Dales.
The North York Moors.
The North Pennines.
Northumberland.
The Lake District.
The Peak District.
North Shields. (just kidding)
Etc etc.
Friendly people, wild scenery, space, the history & culture and the frothy stuff on the top of yer beer.
Its not the South
People are more friendly
Cost of living is less
Better mtbing
Better Beer
People aren't as aggressive when driving
Its not the South
The Tories don't have many MPs in the north
Anything south of the Tees / Middlesborough...from a Mackem (Sunderland) that has lived as far south as Dorset and as far north as Deeside. Currently in Edinburgh, and hate work trips to London, Birmingham etc - ****ing awful places.
Clean in the kitchen , dirty in the bedroom.
Let's get it right, there's a North, West, South (mostly a dump, but it's our dump) and East (Riding). You guessed it Yorkshire, every where else's is imaterial. Course you could disagree but then you are not in Yorkshire.
As a northerner returning from 12 years in London, there is some right horse shit being spouted about the quality of food and drink!
I find it a bit odd that I live in the 'East' Midlands (Matlock), which is an hour 'North' of the 'West' Midlands (Birmingham).
I'm also in North East Derbyshire (as defined by County Councils), but the South West of Derbyshire is still in the East Midlands (I think).
Anyway, I couldn't give a shit if we are North, South, or Midlands - cos we are in the Peaks - a region all of it's own. Oh, and born in Sheffield, so a Southern, Northern monkey anyway....
If your town is in the Lyrics to It's Grim Up North by the KLF then it is the north, end of
northerners are ace.
The hackneyed stereotypes and affectations that some locals still cling to.
Parkin.
Harris tweed.
Black pudding
Geoffrey Boycott.
The rest doesnt really concern me.
cos we are in the Peaks
Is there more than one?
Peak.
The best bit about the North is that no one has dinner parties with friends that arent actually their friends.
Life is less professional.
I can go biking on mountains within half an hour.
Thats it, the rest of it is shite. No art, no culture, everyones a bit racist etc. etc.
David, it's not racist to know that everyone and everything (they bring with them) from south of Yorhshire.
Absolutely rabid tribal hatred for people who live in the next town. They're crap at that darn sarf
haha - spot on.
I love the fresh air (Cumbria) and the abundance of savoury and sweet pastries!!
The north starts after junction 15 of the M6. fact.
I always toot my horn when crossing the Cumbrian border. 🙄
less smug a-holes
The ironing, the whole thread is a rose-tinted smug-fest!
The M1 Southbound.
What's the point in having a North/South divide if we aren't going to police it?
All points North of Oxford are a wasteland.
I'd say I like the Peak(s) however theres the trail politics. You can't mention a hill full of footpaths yet the person angry with you for saying said-vague reference can email someone they've never met co-ordinates etc etc of a cheeky there... 😆
Saying that you've got shannigans down in the Surrey hills as well!
Leeds - yes, London oh boy. But up north most women have size 7+ feet.
All points North of Oxford are a wasteland.
Opening my curtains to this desolate wasteland in the morning is a constant disappointment...
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It serves as a constant reminder of just how grim it is up here. 😥
Peaks - White Peak and Dark Peak, plural. However, the whole area is the Peak District, singular.
I presume in true northern fassion you nodded, muttered agreement and left it at that without a second thought?
Don't be silly. I'm from Surrey. We had a nice conversation about the local NT landlords and their rules and the local opposition from tenant landlords, farmers and the like and then about what I was doing in the area and so on.
He seemed very grateful, as if he had been starved of conversation by, you know, being in The North and that....
The beer was rubbish - glass full of gassy foam that didn't taste of much.
The beer was rubbish - glass full of gassy foam that didn't taste of much.
You sure you're not in the US
Farmers Arms just down the road in Muker, next time you're there.
Possibly the best pub in Britain.
You sure you're not in the US
There are many good things about the north of England, but this isn't one of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_engine#Sparkler
Just to roll the argument back to the Brizzle/Cheshire point...
Having been brought up in Cheshire, it is in the North, and I shall set my whippet on anyone who says it isn't. It is the Surrey of the North, but it's in The North.
Having worked in Brizzle for a number of years, it is in the South. It's one of the friendlier places admittedly, but it has that insular nature that Southern places tend to have.
Anyway, after years in the The Southern Wilderness, we shall be moving back to The Northern Land Of Milk And Honey next year 🙂
Cheshire ... Surrey if the North
I'm a Surrey boy. Against all my good instincts I have to ask, what does that mean?
There are a large number of Range Rover Evoques driven by Ladies Who Lunch, and a disproportionate amount of Pony Club gymkanas
There are many good things about the north of England, but this isn't one of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_engine#Sparkler
In that photo he's doing it all wrong.
Cheshire ... Surrey if the North
I'm a Surrey boy. Against all my good instincts I have to ask, what does that mean?
Full of Bankers, Footballers and ****s in expensive cars
[i]Full of Bankers, Footballers and ****s in expensive cars [/i]
So which one are you mattjg? 🙂
Cheshire ... Surrey if the North
If you look down the high street in Hale, there are not one, but two, dog grooming parlours, catering to the pampered handbag rats of the ladies who lunch
If you can see them behind the wall of Range Rovers
Pubs are great allover the place. I went into the City Arms in central Manchester on Sat night and had a laugh with various people.
In deepest Surrey in the middle of stinking rich houses I went into a pub and various locals wanted to have a laugh/chat- they STARTED the conversations.
Its how approachable you look I suppose.
[i]Its how approachable you look I suppose[/i]
*wishes he could find that HoraFreddie Mercury picture*
It's amusing how people in The North think that Surrey/The South is just CHOCK FULL of rich peope who drive 4x4's, attend ghymkanas, keep domestic slaves and so on.
The North think that Surrey/The South
Aye
Cough Guildford 😆
[i]It's amusing how people in [b]the other bits of[/b] The North think that [b]Cheshire[/b][s]Surrey/The South[/s] is just CHOCK FULL of rich peope who drive 4x4's, attend ghymkanas, keep domestic slaves and so on.[/i]
For every Hale Barnes and Knutsford, there's a Stockport and Widnes.
Its how approachable you look I suppose.
Farmers Arms may be the best pub in Britain but it's not the best pub in Swaledale.
Mattig your from Surrey what can you possibly know about beer. 🙂
Binners
I'd see something similar if it wasn't dark when I set off on a morning.
Best thing about the north for me is it's mainly Rugby league rather than kick & clap.
mt, go on then, give us a clue!
Stayed next to the one in Gunnerside last year, that was a cracker.
Full of Bankers, Footballers and *s in expensive carsSo which one are you mattjg?
I may be a *, but none of the others.
Mattig your from Surrey what can you possibly know about beer.
Not a thing.
http://www.surreyhills.co.uk/
http://www.hogsback.co.uk/
http://www.dorkingbrewery.com/
rocky trails and even the odd mountain!
and its a bit cheaper
I think you'll find those beers are rubbish because they haven't been "smoothed" and made foamy by injecting nitrogen. 🙄
Aye up Rusty. bad news the pub in Gunnerside is closing down.
The Buck, Reeth.
Mattig, it being Surrey, your speciality should be champagne or Denbies finest.
I've never had a Denbies I've enjoyed. It makes for a nice view from my office window tho.
Bugger.
The folks who were running it last year seemed to be doing a good job too.
Won't be staying in Pretoria Cottage again then.
Thanks for the tip about The Buck - will give it a go.
Wait.. erm hang on a minute..
Nope.. nope it's gone..
Oh.. no I have it.. Northumberland.
Now thats a nice County.
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I've always had the north-south divide as being the boundary along the Danelaw. I reckon it's that the changed the cultures, accents etc.
Can I just throw in for the sake of fun that I was born in the Eastern part of the UK, ie right of the Greenwich meridian? That makes me a proper Southerner!
he's from Cheshire, thats not the north unless you are from Stockport. on second thoughts parts of Macclesfield are proper dumps so he's in.
one of my favourite things from "The North"
One of the best things about the north is surely Mark E Smith...
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gah look what you started. class. and closer to Spinal Tap than Spinal Tap.
On the Hacienda reference -it wasn't that great. Just a sweaty open old warehousey-type place really over 20yrs ago since it closed. It gets bigged up a bit in some quarters.
On the Hacienda reference -it wasn't that great.
In your opinion maybe. Depends what you'd necked, really. And what nights you went to. Oh... and some of the bar staff were incredibly good looking 😀
Anyway... I'm not having criticism of the Hac from someone who listens to Nickelback!
While we're on beer, do those chaps still make that John Smiths and Boddingtons stuff pop North?
While we're on beer, do those chaps still make that John Smiths and Boddingtons stuff pop North?
Isn't all that stuff made at the Courage brewery by the M4. Reading. Technically is on the north side of the M4 tho.
Hilarious: http://www.johnsmiths.co.uk/ of the 9 menu items on that site, "Beers" is relegated to 8th!



