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Finding myself in the Yorkshire landscape on a St. Bees-to-Whitby coast to coast.
PS: Where does "The North" start, exactly? Is it Watford?
[url=www.hitthenorth.net]This[/url] 😉
Riding my bike round Austwick/Clapham/Settle
The Lakes
Manchester city centre (when I was younger)
Harrogate,
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Is there any more Yorkshire?
that its a long way from london
that people from london think that fabled place called "the north" is waaaay south of here
Geoffrey Boycott.
I'll have it's not the South before anyone else does.
The people.
Crewe (is where it starts, it's not my favourite thing. In fact it's 'orrible)
Friendly people, wild scenery, space, the history & culture and the frothy stuff on the top of yer beer.
PS: Where does "The North" start, exactly? Is it Watford?
In your head, just after you've held the door open for someone.
The North starts where the M5 meets the M6 around Birmingham. That's when the skies turn heavy grey, the buildings begin to turn to heavy red or brown brick, the traffic turns heavy, and people succumb to heavy depression.
St Bees to Whitby? Sounds like a nice trek, but you're going to have a hard time avoiding the whole religious history thing on that run! And of course, it's those sorts of places I would have suggested visiting/taking pics of.
the ready availability of mushy peas, gravy and curry sauce
The North starts where the M5 meets the[s] M6[/s] M4 around [s]Birmingham[/s] Bristol
fixed
oh and, of course, Binners.
*blows kiss*
It provides an adequate buffer between us and the South.
Ahhhh bless. You're so kind IHN. I am actually known as a local landmark 😀
Oh.... and the lasses of course
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Binners is right with chips and gravy.
I got amused at a meeting in London last week after hearing for years from people who live in the North that there's more to the country than just London (I don't live in London, but do live in the South)..... the people from London were moaning that all the funding for housing projects goes to people in the North and largely Yorkshire 😆 and nothing is available for those in the South.
Not having to choose between living in the city or the countryside - being able to have a foot in both. In fact... not even having to choose a city, you can place yourself so that you have a choice of cities to work and play in
IHN +1
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The North officially starts in Crewe
Probably the cairngorms i think.
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Favourite bit, St. Bees-to-Whitby?
Well it won't be St Bees on that run
Probably Swaledale and just as you cross into Yorkshire you'll be able to have a pint at the highest pub in the UK before the run down into Swaledale
Absolutely rabid tribal hatred for people who live in the next town. They're crap at that darn sarf
The North starts around a line from Aberdeen to Fort William. That people call Manchester and Leeds the North is laughable! They are barely even north of the middle if you run a line from Berwick to the channel.
Having lived in Chester I'd say that's not in the north - but Manchester, Sheffield and Hull are.
The north starts at BristoL
it's easier to see how beautiful this island really is.
The North/South divide mapped
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Anything north of Newbury....
never mind scottish independence, I'd happily divide this country along those lines..Bimbler
IHN - Member
Crewe (is where it starts, it's not my favourite thing. In fact it's 'orrible)
Oi, that's where I'm typing this now and it's nowhere near as 'orrible as most places darn sarf.
The North starts around a line from Aberdeen to Fort William. That people call Manchester and Leeds the North is laughable! They are barely even north of the middle if you run a line from Berwick to the channel.
'North' isn't a geographical term. I'd agree with that map except Leicester is on the wrong side of it. But I'd place Bristol as detached island of north float in the north. A northberg.
Loughrigg Fell
Links golf - ok not exclusively North, but....
'North' isn't a geographical term.
Exactly.
Most of Wales is North, Apart from Abersoch and Rhosneigr, which are culturally part of Cheshire, which is in the Midlands.
Didsbury is also part of Cheshire, and the inhabitants will be offered either repatriation or cultural re-education.
Indeed. North is a state of mind maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
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I'd agree with that map above except I'd place Bristol in an island of north float in the north. A northberg.
Like large areas of Cheshire are actually outposts of the south
Probably Swaledale and just as you cross into Yorkshire you'll be able to have a pint at the highest pub in the UK before the run down into Swaledale
Passed the highest pub, but stayed in Swaledale and had a drink at "The Bull". Asked the landlord why the pub name on the front wall was upside down. He said it was because the NT wouldn't let him paint the building his preferred colours...
The North starts around a line from Aberdeen to Fort William. That people call Manchester and Leeds the North is laughable! They are barely even north of the middle if you run a line from Berwick to the channel.
Of England; Scotland seems less about latitude and more about elavation.
The North quite obviously starts at Lympstone.. Dirty big headed loudmouths all the way from there to Scotland as far as I can make out..
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My wife (She's from there....)
😀
....fick birdz.
Or should that be Geordie birdz.
Bimbler.
Id question any map that puts Cleethorpes 15 miles in land of a coastal Grimsby.
worrying.
Nothing, it's cold(er) and shit. Leeds was a good laugh for drinking though.
An ex-girlfriend... 🙁
Fish and Chips. None of those namby pamby bit's of potato cooked in veg oil, propper chips are cooked in Lard, if it doesnt solidify on the paper then you've been conned itno soemthing that isn't chips.
The fact that within 10 miles there can be several different regional words to describe a bread roll, asking for the wrong one leads to genine confusion form the person behind the counter.
The North clearly starts at Sheffield/Manchester, we'll take Linconshire, but you have to take Liverpool, which whilst definately North, the people of Manchester wouldn't accept it.
Absolutely rabid tribal hatred for people who live in the next town. They're crap at that darn sarf
I lived in Reading, and despite having never been to Baisingstoke or Swindon, hate both, southerers do it just as well so we can't hold that against them.
Mr Woppit - MemberPassed the highest pub, but stayed in Swaledale and had a drink at "The Bull". Asked the landlord why the pub name on the front wall was upside down. He said it was because the NT wouldn't let him paint the building his preferred colours...
I presume in true northern fassion you nodded, muttered agreement and left it at that without a second thought?
propper chips are cooked in [strike]Lard[/strike] dripping
Yorkshire has it all.
If it aint in Yorkshire it aint worth visitin
lincolnshire isnt northern.
north lincs and the humber yes. lincolnshire in general, no.
Pffftt, Yorkshire, merely adequate
People are friendlier. Even the midlands compared to Reading, my current home, the difference is noticable.
I like the fact you can speak to a stranger in public places without them thinking you are mental
Apart from that not much tbh.
edit: given the above the folk are just as friendly IME but not with strangers
Girls are better looking in Manchester
The best thing about The North is "seeing it in your rear view mirror" or "the road out"!!!
Just jesting.
Manchester City - obviously!!
Actually, just thinking this through. And especially why I dislike London town so much.
It's people, I just don't like 'em. You're all fine on the internet, but not in person thank you. Which I guess is why I like the North, better and bigger empty places. Probably explains why I think the Cairngorms being 45 minutes away is still too far.
I mean, there are some nice bits of countryside down south. And yeh it's a bit warmer if your nesh. But it's just too tame for my tastes.
banks - Member
Girls are better looking in Manchester
😯 😆
Village idiots.. there does seam to be a surplas of them north of Watford gap...
😆 @ better looking girls in Manchester
anyone who calls it the north is obviously a southerner
it's t'north
Speaking as a Southerner: space, and the unique landscapes. And the chip shop in that town at the bottom of the Howgills (Sedburgh?) that opened just as we got down from a big loop.
The word "honest" often gets used around Yorkshire folk, but then I hear it a lot over here in that Canary Wharf, often accompanied buy "guv" ..
I know who I'd trust.
When I'm on the sarf carst I often think the North starts just over the bridge of Swanwick on the M27, when in London I think it starts at Muswell Hill.
Can it really move?
Best thing? No southern Nancy's
The accents. Driving south, they start to grate around Northampton, do my head in around Essex and by the time I'm in Kent I am praying to hear some French.
Crewe (is where it starts, it's not my favourite thing. In fact it's 'orrible)
100% this, having lived there for a few years I feel that I have earnt my right to really hate the place, even though I only live 6 miles away now.
Back to the question. The best thing is the people, far friendlier, if a little more colourful
It's a London/Not London thing. The North(tm) is Not London.
This is my favourite thing about the north:
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My little part of it 😀
I'm from The North, but that's 200 miles south of where I live now.
In MTB terms - best thing about this part of the north is that we can ride anywhere we like.
Lets get this right.
Haltwhistle is the midway point of the UK. If you're south of Haltwhistle you're Southern. simple.
Best thing about the North? My mums house, on it's own in the middle of nowhere, 10 minutes on the bike from the Northumberland National park. In Winter, a foot of Snow outside, a big fire and a bottle of fine malt.
Clarification required, which Watford?
Girls are better looking in Manchester?
Stevie Wonder comment...
London has the best lookers by a country mile. Sorry.
All the girls in london look like boys & wear bowler hats whilst pretending to be continental
Girls <29 are much hotter. We do have a lot more skanks though. Ever been wilko's on a week day?
London doesn't have any country miles, just them soft short southern ones 😉
what everyone is missing is the concept of the "Badlands" this is the area that buffers the North from the "south"
encompasses places like Birmingham that neither the North nor the south would want 😉
in answer to the title.
Binners.
oh and Vimto too.
Proper hills
Beer that isn't flat
I struggle with long sentences. or whatever the interwebs acronym is.
north is better because people aren't soft and/or terminally rude.
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oh - and we have real actual hills/mountains to ride ...
It's not crowded.
My list:
Its not the South
People are more friendly
Cost of living is less
Better mtbing
Better Beer
People aren't as aggressive when driving
Its not the South
The Tories don't have many MPs in the north
It's not crowded.
Try living in the North West....
It's not crowded.
Apart from that whole southern north bit with Sheffield/Leed/Manchester/Liverpool
Ever driven towards Bradford-Leeds etc?
Its like the North Cicular