[Closed] what's the protocol with playing online,if the friend invite turns out to be.. .

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Sounds like you have dealt with it properly.

Nothing wrong with it IMO as long as you are clear.

Society is paranoid these days.

I played COD with a lad of 12 (i'm 30) for about 6 months, I deleted him cause he kept kicking my arse.

He's not really twelve. The disappointment has arisen because you're not twelve either.

i think in reality you are an adult playing computer games, ergo you need to get out more!!

I don't think it really matters. I used to play alot of Xbox online and various other computer based online games and age ranges were vast. All that really matters is are they any good?

i think in reality you are an adult playing computer games, ergo you need to get out more!!

Cheer up gramps!

I know nothing about gaming, online or otherwise, but I assume you don't need to interact with the kid do you other than to race against each other? So age is irrelevant surely?

but I assume you don't need to interact with the kid do you other than to race against each other?

There's normally a fair amount of trash talk and general chit chat. In big groups you can hide away and not really participate but not everyone likes a silent player.

i think in reality you are an adult playing computer games, ergo you need to get out more!!

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Given you are here you must be an expert dealing with folk with child like mentalities

Its hardly grooming.
Is it?

I made a rule for my kid - only ever friend people you know.
It hasn't worked, but the stuff he plays, CoD etc. adults really play that shit? Surely there's better things to do with your time?! 😆

Doesn't seem bad; what's worse is when you are playing GTAV online at 1am on a school night and there are little kids' voices on the public maps.

Surely there's better things to do with your time?!

Each to his own.

Perhaps you can provide us an approved list of passtimes so we can all be right thinking, like you? 🙂

I made a rule for my kid - only ever friend people you know.
It hasn't worked, but the stuff he plays, CoD etc. adults really play that shit? Surely there's better things to do with your time?!

Last time I looked COD had an age rating of 18, assume your kid is over that then?

It hasn't worked, but the stuff he plays, CoD etc. adults really play that shit? Surely there's better things to do with your time?!

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Doesn't seem bad; what's worse is when you are playing GTAV online at 1am on a school night and there are little kids' voices on the public maps.

There's normally a fair amount of trash talk and general chit chat. In big groups you can hide away and not really participate but not everyone likes a silent player.

I see. Chatting to 12 year old kids that you don't know - not for me. But you've acted properly OP.

They have electricity all over the world now

Yeah but MOST kids with British accents are in fact in Britain. Not all, of course, but most.

[i]Last time I looked COD had an age rating of 18, assume your kid is over that then?[/i]

Pegi rating may be 18, but I've checked and its just running around pretending to shoot people like we used to do at school. Except on a telly screen. So it passed my rating.
As a responsible parent I feel its better to rate them yourself rather than going by what some committee has decided. 😀

its just running around pretending to shoot people like we used to do at school. Except on a telly screen. So it passed my rating.

Yeah it's just like that:

I've sat there when he's playing it GrahamS. Its just running around pretending to shoot people like we used to do at school. Except on a telly screen.
I've also played it with him. Not for very long though, I had washing to hang out.

When I ran around pretending to shoot people at school they weren't equipped with copious blood bags, dismembered limbs and able to produce high-def renderings of exploding heads.

YMMV. 😀

They were in our imaginations!

Quite a difference between kids' makebelieve and some of these games.

When you are playing as a kid, you only have what's already in your head. When playing a game, you are being shown what's in someone else's head. In this case, someone a lot older and better able to contextualise it. Possibly... or someone more inured.. or just sicker.

Yeah... sort of a different thing really. My schoolboy imaginings were more this kind of thing:

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It didn't, for example, include torturing someone by smashing a window, putting the broken glass into his mouth then punching him in the face. (CoD: Black Ops).

Again YMMV.

When playing a game, you are being shown what's in someone else's head

Quite literally, often. Headshots are ace!

[i]include torturing someone by smashing a window, putting the broken glass into his mouth then punching him in the face[/i]

Nope, not in the game either.

Nope, not in the game either.

Watch from 0:40

Jeez, thanks for the advice about my parenting, it's really appreciated. (or not).
[i]I've sat there when he's playing it GrahamS. Its just running around pretending to shoot people like we used to do at school. Except on a telly screen.[/i]

This is about racefaceec90's grooming (or not) though.

Jeez, thanks for the advice about my parenting, it's really appreciated. (or not).

I'm not offering you any advice about your parenting.

I'm just saying that modern games are reaching photo-realistic levels of detail and can feature incredibly graphic and brutal violence, which is often framed in stories with very dubious morality. To my mind that makes them a very different beast from running around a playground shouting "bang-bang".

What you choose to do with that information is entirely your business.

I read it and understood it, although you can't seem to read the bit I've posted 3 times now.. ho hum.

We used to lob big lumps of stone embedded mud at one another across the massive park we were lucky enough to have.

Can't imagine anything could be more fun, other than actually having firearms.

Yes I've read it and responded to it. And shown you videos.
And as I said, when I was a kid a game of "Sojjers" didn't include acting out the torture and execution of prisoners. If yours did then yes, it's exactly [i]"running around pretending to shoot people like we used to do at [s]school[/s]borstal"[/i]. 😉

I'm 38, so a whole year younger than the OP and, IMO, adults should be knocking on the window and shaking your fist at kids playing football in the street and generally being happier than you rather than playing kids games on computers!

But as there's no kids playing out these days and they are all gaming i suppose cyber shooting them is kinda the same........

Games my brother(14) wants to play go through "emsz can Euan play this?" question as my parents know I play a load of stuf. GrahamS a lot of stuff you see on those films you can skip past, and most people do. There's a well know level on MW called no Russian where you have to shoot civvies. The game actually allows you to just walkthrough so your not shooting innocent bystanders.

I'd be chilled about 13-14 yr olds playing cod but not gta

I tried some online racing on GTA V but tearfully withdrew when some pre-pubescent teenage American promised to papercut my nipples. 🙁

I tried some online racing on GTA V but tearfully withdrew when some pre-pubescent teenage American promised to papercut my nipples.

You get a better class of sledging in WoW. It's how I stay current on the preferred way to insult one's peers.

[i]GrahamS a lot of stuff you see on those films you can skip past, and most people do[/i]

You're just repeating what I've already said... he ain't listening 😆

I'm just saying that modern games are reaching photo-realistic levels of detail and can feature incredibly graphic and brutal violence, which is often framed in stories with very dubious morality. To my mind that makes them a very different beast from running around a playground shouting "bang-bang".

What you choose to do with that information is entirely your business

DezB I didn't see how anything you said was a rebuttal of GrahamS's points. Are you saying that the violence is not in fact in the game, or that it doens't matter that it is?

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I'm listening just fine. You said stuff like that wasn't in the game. It is.
emsz agrees it is, but says you can choose to skip a lot of it while you are playing. That's fine too.

Again, I'm not questioning your parenting DezB. I was just trying to challenge your assumption that these games are just the same as playing "Sojjers" in the schoolyard. I really don't think they are.

Ok, I'll spell it out: They are not in the bits my kid plays. He plays the running around shooting bits. He SKIPS OVER (or just doesn't load/view/whatever) those bits.
I have sat there while he is playing the game and he just runs around shooting.
All his mates (with XBoxes) have GTA5, by the way. He doesn't, so I do exercise some parental control. Just a little bit though eh.

Ok, I'll [s]spell it out[/s] explain myself properly

Thanks.

Do you always watch him when he plays? Is there any chance he'll end up watching that stuff without you knowing?

Yes, there's a chance of him doing lots of things without me knowing 😆

I'm going to show him that video later, to check if he's seen any of the bits in it.

GramhamS I dunno if you play stuff but you can load up different sessions on these games so you can just play the running about shooting people stuff, my brother plays the training sessions on MW like a million times a day, he's NEVER played the mission as they're "well dull"

So you can play COD or whatever and never see the cuts

DezB I dont care what you do with your kid. I am , as you are, simply expressing my view on these games.

GramhamS I dunno if you play stuff

Yeah I wanted to point out, if I sound like one of those hand-wringing "video games are evil murder simulators" nutters, I'm not.

I play games myself and I don't have a problem with adult content in them.

Personally I don't skip cutscenes. But I'm one of those gamers that enjoys the story/setting/universe and likes to explore the details. (and get my money's worth!)

From what I gather the CoD single-player campaign missions are fairly dire though, so that probably has more to do with people skipping them than any keenly established sense of moral self-censorship in teenagers. 😀

you can just play the running about shooting people stuff, my brother plays the training sessions on MW like a million times a day, he's NEVER played the mission as they're "well dull"

To be honest, I'm not sure that skipping the "well dull" story, plot and context to jump straight to the killing people bits is really that much better.

But at least that [i]is[/i] like playground soldiers 😀