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i'm having a fight with molly on facebook at the moment after he took an oatmeal cartoon personally
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill
so which is the better pet, cats or dogs?
you gotta post a reason why though, or at least a photo, everyone loves photos of cats and dogs
Our cats inspect all my joinery, not sure you'd get a dog to do that....
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Cats are miles better. They're ace, and they don't make your house smelly. Theres the nagging suspicion they're plotting to kill me in my sleep, but hey ho! Thats the risk you take
People with dogs - you may have blanked it out as you're no doubt used to it, but your house smells like an open sewer in a South African Shanty town! Sorry, but that's the way it is
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*Which* is better. There are only two.
Tsk!
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Cats.
They just are.
Dogs.
much more personality.
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unklehomered - Member
Dogs.
much more personality.
Never had a cat then eh?
Meanwhile, back in dogtown...
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I like cats better. Dogs are stupid and annoying, mostly. And not as soft. And you have to pick up their poo, they don't bury it. And they smell bad. And they bite kids.
Cats harm local wildlife though, if there are too many. Best thing is not to have either.
Tricky one.
I like dogs, cos they're easy to impress, and constantly happy.
But cat's are great because they need less maintenance than a pot plant, and you don't have to go to the effort of training them to shit in the neighbours garden.
Anyone been bitten by a cat while out riding?? Thought not, so that makes cats a clear winner.
It depends.
Dogs give you unconditional love and encourage you to have an active lifestyle. They are soulmates and your best friend and can be trained to find drugs, bombs or people hidden under debris or up mountains. They will also guard you and your loved ones if required and are loyal to the grave.
Cats are lovely if you want a low maintenance pet that will give you fuss when it wants it, but provides that added touch of risk for which you might get scratched.
Cats make better lolcat photos though.
Anyone been bitten by a cat while out riding?? Thought not, so that makes cats a clear winner.
Good point!
Anyone been bitten by a cat while out riding?? Thought not, so that makes cats a clear winner.Good point!
Yeah, but when I was a kid a cat's 'up yours, human' paw swipe almost took my eye out... and it wasn't even trying.
Cats would bite cyclists if they could be arsed running that fast/lying in wait.
I think people underestimate how sociable cats are.
Our two can hear either of us at the front door and rush there to greet us when we come home. They follow us round the house (inc waiting by the bathroom door if you go to the Loo). One of then even comes when called no matter what he's doing.
I like cats better. Dogs are stupid and annoying, mostly. And not as soft. And you have to pick up their poo, they don't bury it, in other peoples gardens, where the lettuce and rocket is planted.
FTFY
And they bite kids.
Yeah, all the time, just none stop child biting. I'm out on the moors, turn my head for one moment, look back - there he is with a baby's skull in his jaws, take it off him, throw it away, 2 seconds later he's got it again. And don't even get me started on walking through town on a busy saturday, bite bite bite bite bite bite, none stop child biting.
they don't bury it, in other peoples gardens, where the lettuce and rocket is planted.
I've had to put weed proof membrane on a neighbours flower beds (with plants poking through) to dissuade our cats from using it as a loo. All in the name of good neighbourly relations....
Thank you, this thread has got Monday off to an excellent start, good thing I can't be heard giggling in the other room here at work... 😆
Both good, the main difference is dogs have masters, cats have servants...
Apart from toy poodles, which have some weird dog/cat split personality thing going on.. and Siamese cats which are batshit mental murdering bastards..
Yeah, all the time
Look I wasn't being serious with that, but as a kid I must've been bitten properly, with puncture wounds and blood, five or six times by random dogs when simply trying to get away from them, and only nipped once by a cat when I obviously pissed it off.
That's a high dog bite quota, molgrips... I have one in my back catalogue, but a far higher quota of abuse from cats with a low tolerance level and an eye for carefully aimed damage.
They look joined at the hip. Is it a siamese?
That's a high dog bite quota, molgrips
Yeah, the thing is you come into contact with dogs all the time, when out walking, at a car park, in cul de sacs, all over. And they have this aggression thing going on. Just last night when out running I saw two dogs being walked by their owners, they were both on leads of course but both of them kicked off at me. Never had a cat look like it wanted to attack me as I was just out and about...
Also never ridden though cat shit on the trails or sat in it on a picnic but that's another issue.
So they bite you. Fair enough then, but as a dog owner saying all dogs bite kids is like saying all fathers are like joseph fritzel or all men are rapists.
Some dogs bite (very small fraction, tiny), either as a result of previous mal treatment, or just some dogs are a bit mental in the head (poor breeding can be a big contribuer), but there's often a clear sign before the event. Out of the blue bitings are very rare. Behind a biting dog is the irrespsonsability of people somewhere along the way. But then most violent criminals have given warnings along the way too.
EDIT: I'm wondering now following your other posts if you give off some kind of anti dog vibe, Can I borrow you and do some tests? You seem like a dog anger bomb.
when you die a cat will not vist your grave. FFS if you stop feeding it it will never even visit you.
If you are a cat owner and you die, the cat would eat you. They care that little for their "owners". A dog is so loyal it would guard your body against marauding hordes of cats, zombies or medical researches until it is so tired, starving and ill that it could not longer fight them off.
That's how awesome dogs are.
Neither, both a pain in the arse.
Wev'e got this...
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Which craps in a litter tray in the house. Which is fine unless we're not quick enough, & then this....
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Eats it.
If I had my way (which I don't) I'd have neither.
when you die a cat will not vist your grave.
Like dead people will notice....
Well, I've been around dogs and only one bit me - some psycho red setter that - apparently - thought a shiny stone I was picking up in fact belonged to his master. 😯 That was the owner's excuse and, 30 years later, I still have scarring... but that's the one in a hundred/thousand/million as far as I can see. Cats, meanwhile, just like sitting on William Shatner's head, thinking evil thoughts:
when you die a cat will not vist your grave
If our veg patch is anything to go by then a cat would struggle to resist that much freshly dug soil.
EDIT: I wodering if you give off some kind of anti dog vibe
Classic bit of victim-blaming there.
I might give off an anti-dog vibe, having been fairly scared of them throughout childhood due to a few unpleasant incidents. But I suppose that's all my fault too.
but as a dog owner saying all dogs bite kids
Well that's not what I said, is it.
I implied that it's more likely to get a serious bite from a dog, and you're definitely more likely to be randomly assaulted by a dog when out minding your own business. That may be the result of poor dog ownership, but the fact is that it's a possibility and often a reality.
You seem like a dog anger bomb
Not so much these days, because as a kid I had no idea how to behave around dogs. Nowadays I just get grief if I am doing something ridiculously dangerous like, say, running.
Again I don't really want to get into a silly debate about cats v dogs but I do really think that the dog thing is an issue. There are a great many dogs who aren't sufficiently controlled by their owners, and unless you have dog experience you don't know the things you shouldn't be doing
If you are a cat owner and you die, the cat would eat you. They care that little for their "owners". A dog is so loyal it would guard your body against marauding hordes of cats, zombies or medical researches until it is so tired, starving and ill that it could not longer fight them off.
Conclusion: dogs are stupid.
(-:
We have both.
Dog beats cat for numerous different reasons.
FIN
Maybe dogs are a good judge of character?
Crikey Molgrips, five or six bites??
That's shocking. I've spent my entire life around my own and other people's dogs. Both known dogs and unknown and never been bitten once. And that includes some decidedly mental dogs volunteering in animal sanctuaries.
What with your motoring issues as well I'm beginning to think your cursed.
You said "They bite kids" which made sound pretty standard behaviour, they dig holes, they like bones, they fetch sticks, they bite kids.
I've been assaulted by people more than I have by dogs.
grum: I never said it was his fault, most likely it is the fear/anxiety, maybe its something else, but molgrips does seem to have had a disproportionatly high number of negative dog encounters. I'm wondering if its a dog reaction to his mental state, or just sods law, I hate spiders, and I'm the only one in the house who routinely finds them in his bed, his pants draw, his towel, just on his leg etc...
If you are a cat owner and you die, the cat would eat you. They care that little for their "owners". A dog is so loyal it would guard your body against marauding hordes of cats, zombies or medical researches until it is so tired, starving and ill that it could not longer fight them off.
Ha ha, nice thought. But when poochy gets hungry enough, you'll be on the menu don't worry.
If our veg patch is anything to go by then a cat would struggle to resist that much freshly dug soil
Top work
I have been bitten/scratched by more cats than dogs - granted this happens in peoples homes rather than on the mean streets.
Dogs can generally do more harm so there is more to be concerned about.
Not sure either species is any more or less aggressive as a rule tbh
I favour neither one nor the other. They are different creatures suited best for different people.
I like both in equal measure.
On the cleaning up dog poo front. Yeh, that's so much better than changing the bed sheets at 3am as kittums have just barfed everywhere. Twice last week the wretched little ****
I'm sure it was the fear, and the running away. But it's not unreasonable to expect a 4 year old kid to try and run away from a snarling barking animal with sharp teeth, is it?
Because there are dogs everywhere, we need to learn how to deal with dogs or risk being bitten. If you don't have dogs yourself, then you don't learn how to deal with them and you end up feeling scared every time you see a dog nearby. It's a bit of a shame, isn't it?
. I've spent my entire life around my own and other people's dogs.
I think this may be part of it. I never spent time around dogs.
Not sure either species is any more or less aggressive as a rule tbh
I think it's fairly obvious that cats are far less aggressive overall than dogs. I've never seen a cat do anything other than run away unless it was cornered, except where other cats were concerned. Many dogs however will try and attack anything and everyone. Of course lots of owners will have them under control, but you are relying on the skill of the owner to stop the dog getting involved.
I've never had to say 'DOWN, KITTY, DOWN!' and haul on a cat's leash to stop it attacking someone....
Not all dogs, but the best of dogs are loyal beyond words. Moving story many will already know of, Ruswarp...
Ruswarp (pronounced “Russup”) was the name of a devoted Border Collie who stayed with his master’s body on a Welsh mountainside for 11 weeks over one winter.Ruswarp was the inseparable companion of Graham Nuttall who campaigned successfully against the proposed closure of the Settle to Carlisle railway line in the 1980s.
Ruswarp's paw print had the distinction of being the only canine signature of objection to the line's closure.
In January 1990, after seeing the line reprieved, Mr Nuttall and Ruswarp bought day return tickets from Burnley to go walking in the Welsh Mountains. But Graham never returned.
Neighbours raised the alarm. Searches by police and mountain rescue teams found nothing.
Then on April 7, another walker found Graham's body by a mountain stream. Nearby was Ruswarp, so weak that the 14 year old dog had to be carried off the mountain.
Ruswarp was cared for by a local vet with fees paid by the RSPCA, who quickly decided to award Ruswarp their Animal Medallion and collar for 'vigilance' and their Animal Plaque for 'intelligence and courage'.
Ruswarp lived just long enough to attend Graham's funeral. His devotion to his master reminded people of Edinburgh's Greyfriars Bobby - the Skye Terrier who remained at his master's graveside for 14 years until his own death in 1872.
Friends of the Settle to Carlisle Line commissioned a life-size bronze statue of Ruswarp from sculptress Joel Walker. It symbolises the successful campaign to save the line from closure, and the loyalty of man's best friend.
Ruswarp's eyes look towards the hills, and to a bench on the far platform, dedicated to Graham Nuttall. Garsdale was their favourite place.
😥
Easy Dogs of course...
Rescue Dogs,
Guard Dogs
Blind Dogs...
I could go on but am at work and in a rush but list 20 things a dog can do and try and do the same for cats apart from kill tweety birds
Every morning I get up to feed the cats and make tea, then we have a cup of tea in bed and the cats join is for a catch up and some synchronised farting:
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Dogs. Easy.
Show me a cat that'll go night riding with you and I might consider changing my vote
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Actually molgrips I don't think what you describe is at all uncommon, unfortunatley it sounds like you encountered loose dogs who were able to chase you, at a bad time. Sadly the chasing may not have helped, standing still and not reacting is better but indeed as you say to a 4 yrs I bet it doesn't sound it, instinct would take over, particularly if you've had a bad history. The dogs shouldn't have been loose and able to chase you.
That's a big shame. All I can say is they can be lovely and incredibly affectionate, and sometimes capable of quite a deep understanding.
If you are ever in Nidderdale there's a golden retriever who I'm sure would offer you a suck on his most favourite raggy toy.
As an adult I have known nice dogs, but they still smell a bit 😉
You will notice I have not disputed the smelly comment. Note to self - bath dog.
Yes, they all smell
And slobber to varying amounts
Ugh.. yes.. the slobber. Cats lick you clean and it feels lovely. Dogs slobber on you disgustingly. And in your face too!
I've never seen a cat do anything other than run away
I find that hard to believe tbh
I have never been attacked by my own dog but have been scratched by numerous cats I [ the household i sharred they were never mine] owned.
My aunties cats comes over for attention and once bored it bites you then scratches you then runs off - it dpes this to everyone.
You really never met an "aggressive" cat
Granted I doubt anyone has even been attacked by a cat in the street as they are tto busy killing things to attack something as large as us ....I think the point remains that neither species is more aggressive but a dog can do more damage to us than a cat can. FWIW a cat attacks other stuff and probably more often than dogs attack anything.
Angus snots in my face when the excitment gets too much, or when he wants me to get out of bed.
Friend of mine has an aggresive cat. Not kidding, its an asbsolutely ****, to everyone. It actually bits if you go pet it. ONly one like that I've ever encountered. Sits on me, stares in my face basically saying "You so much as touch me and I will shred the skin from your bones." - thing is its ginger and fat and I find it hilarious, convulse in laughter, which also gets me bitten...
JY you were in their house though.
I bet you've never been rushed at by a snarling cat trying to attack you. I bet you've never had to try and defuse a situation with a cat miaowing furiously at you with bared teeth...?
Footflaps - my morning routine is remarkably similar. Definitely the brews, feeding cats and farting bit, anyway.
Except that once our cats have been fed, they go absolutely mental, chasing each other, full tilt, around the house. Then recreating some kind of WWF Smack down in the bedroom, complete with hiding-in-the-washing-basket ambushes. Which all makes for great viewing as you have your first coffee of the day. 😀
Plus I've never been out on a run or ride and heard a cat owner say 'oh, tiddles has never done that before', or 'you shouldn't really be moving as it gets tiddles defensive'.
plus cat's don't litter trees with bags of poo, just other peoples veg plots.
How many times have you been riding past a farm and the farm cat comes tearing out of the farmyard with teeth bared trying to bite you?
The same number as dogs NIL.
I bet you've never been rushed at by a snarling cat trying to attack you. I bet you've never had to try and defuse a situation with a cat miaowing furiously at you with bared teeth...?
A point i have now made three times but the issue was which species was the most aggressive not whether there was a geographical difference in their attack patterns
I have never had to diffuse a cat as they simply attacked me without warning as they are devious and not to be trusted 😉
Both can be aggressive, dogs do more damage , cats do it in their own house, dogs do it everywhere but cats kill more things but not humans
My point is i dont think either is mor eor less aggressive but yes in public it will more likley be a cat than a dog by a magnitude of thousands or millions unless of course you are small enough for it to kill and eat you
My folk new dog "Cocker Spaniel" usually wets itself with excitement when she meets someone new who make a fuss of her.
A point i have now made three times but the issue was which species was the most aggressive
I've given loads of examples as to why I think dogs are much more aggressive. Those farms you ride past - there are cats in there too, almost certainly. They don't try and chase me off.
I see just as many cats out running as dogs. Most dogs are having to be restrained by their owners, most cats just glance at me as they walk by. No doubt on their way to be aggressive to some mice or something 🙂
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[i]plus cat's don't litter trees with bags of poo[/i]
I could be wrong, but I don't think dogs do that either.
unklehomered - MemberNot all dogs, but the best of dogs are loyal beyond words. Moving story many will already know of, Ruswarp...
A touching story of a dog that was too dense to go and get help, preferring to sit and watch ..
plus cat's don't litter trees with bags of poo, just other peoples veg plots.
Well that's dog owners, not the dogs. Cat owners just litter the internet with incredibly annoying pictures of their substitute babies.
Let's not forget Crows are the real trouble makers.
I've never been bitten by a dog but I have been bitten by a few cats.














