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[Closed] What would be the odds of two ppl with a same username and password

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Just tried to create a new iTunes account, punch details in and it tells me username registered already. Not remembering registering it previously I chuck my standard iTunes password in on the off chance I'd registered before and it logs me in. But the account is populated with an Australian guys details. I message him and he does indeed exist.

So same username and same password. What the deuce!


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:35 pm
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Approximately 1 in 5462815634 (roughly).


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:36 pm
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There's an infinite number of monkeys here that want to discuss a new play they've written.


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:37 pm
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Probably smaller than the chance of there being a hole in iTunes security


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:38 pm
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It depends, if your password was "password" then the probability would be greatly increased.

Maybe you have a twin brother and were separated at birth?


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:40 pm
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As the person does exist, the probability is 1 to the rest of the world using I tunes


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:40 pm
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I wonder how long ago he hacked your account 😉


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:41 pm
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Pies has a point. Possible. All his CC details are there though.


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:43 pm
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The NSA are pretending to be Australians now?

*pops on tinfoil hat*


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:46 pm
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How secure is your password? Post it here and I'll check it for you.


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:50 pm
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(NB: don't do that)


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:50 pm
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Well it's a random word followed by 4 numbers..,


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:58 pm
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Now the guy is off to try and see where else you use that password.

Doesn't itunes use an email address rather than a name?


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 6:59 pm
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I've just been on singletrackworld.au and there's an identical thread!!!


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 7:13 pm
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mine's p455w0rd

and I'm 4w350m3 8)


 
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Now the guy is off to try and see where else you use that password.

Doesn't itunes use an email address rather than a name?

Sure its both as I my Mac Book pro asks for my password


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 7:16 pm
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arandomword4numbers

That's a shite password


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 7:18 pm
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Maybe it is actually you in a parallel life (in which your great great great grandfather was transported to Australia for trespass) that you have inadvertently been drawn through a wormhole into by going 88mph in a police telephone box. I seem to remember a documentary on telly about this happening. Do you remember that happening in the last few days? Is your arm becoming invisible at all?

Has the other you got a better taste in music? Does he look, well, better than you? Should you be doing the right thing for the space time continuum?


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 7:18 pm
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It's probably a version of yourself that is based in the future trying to commmunicate with your present self so that he can help you solve the equation that will save all of human life as we know it


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 7:20 pm
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Maybe it is actually you in a parallel life (in which your great great great grandfather was transported to Australia for trespass) that you have inadvertently been drawn through a wormhole into by going 88mph in a police telephone box. I seem to remember a documentary on telly about this happening. Do you remember that happening in the last few days? Is your arm becoming invisible at all?

Or has your mum tried......on second thoughts.


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 7:23 pm
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Maybe its your un-used account, he tried the same username and then attempted a password reset and has similar security details to yourself? And therefore assumed ownership of the account.

I tried to get an old Yahoo account working recently and tried to find my missing login ID via my registered phone number, text came through and I ended up accessing someone elses (dormant) account?! They must have entered my number for some reason.


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 7:39 pm
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Mildly related, but about a year or so ago I got £268 gifted into my paypal account.

I emailed the guy to inform him that it was very kind but not sure why he'd sent me it.

Reply was just some abusive threatening blurb.

Moral of the story, dunno. This just reminded me of it.


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 7:51 pm
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Thats a point, it is an email address... the plot thickens


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 8:14 pm
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Do you use that email and password for any other sites?


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 8:17 pm
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How did you message him?


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 8:44 pm
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100% sure you attempted to register at the legit itunes site ?


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 8:48 pm
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Text message, and I checked his house out on google maps.
It was via the itunes app


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 9:02 pm
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Split online personality. Accessed your other selfs itunes and had a email convo withyourself?


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 9:14 pm
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Did you email yourself?


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 10:16 pm
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Shoot your self in the mouth now at the right angle. Kill your alter ego !


 
Posted : 25/11/2014 10:41 pm
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The bloke in Australia is the OP's Periferal, the OP's operating him via telepresence.
Well, it makes sense to me...


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 12:37 am
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iTunes used email

Email is a UID

This thread is Bjorklets!


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 12:44 am
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Huh?


 
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Posted : 26/11/2014 9:32 am
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Are you these two guys?

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Posted : 26/11/2014 9:37 am
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I'm Jack's raging bile duct.

I'm also Spartacus.


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 9:38 am
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OP

Have you been near a wormhole?

😉


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 9:40 am
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Mildly related, but about a year or so ago I got £268 gifted into my paypal account.

I emailed the guy to inform him that it was very kind but not sure why he'd sent me it.

Reply was just some abusive threatening blurb.

Woah, stop. More details needed.

Did you return your gift?


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 12:34 pm
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Your username is your registered email address for iTunes so how could you possibly have the same email address?

And the same random word plus 4 numbers password.

Something dodgy going on there.


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 1:05 pm
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This other fella, He's not called Tyler is he?

The password wasn't "Project_Mayhem" was it?

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And are you missing huge chunks of time and have accrued a massive wad of air miles?


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 1:15 pm
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Yeah he would have had to have had the email address before me and let it expire. Chances million to one. So must be an iTunes fault? But he agreed they were his details.


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 1:15 pm
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Of course, although after his shirty response it was tempting for a second to tell him to bugger off.

It was the only email I received, i.e not even one to say thanks for returning.

Some people are just arses. Who would have thought it? 🙂


 
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Chances million to one.

Pretty sure they're a lot smaller than that.


 
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Your username is your registered email address for iTunes so how could you possibly have the same email address?

And the same random word plus 4 numbers password.

Something dodgy going on there.


I regularly get emails for some guy in Alabama who has the same name, and an email address that is probably one mis-hit character away from mine.

And the thing with what you think are random words and numbers is that they're probably not really all that random, so there's probably a pretty good chance they're not going to be unique once you get into millions of people, like on iTunes.

So between those two things is there a window for someone to have registered with the wrong email? Although you'd think he'd realise he didn't get the confirmation... weird.


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 4:25 pm
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iTunes requires a confirm it's a double opt in.

Like I said, I call Bjorklets


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 4:33 pm
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Yeah - someone called Oliver Keyworth (not my name) has a very similar email to me, he recently booked flights from JFK to Houston, and I kept getting the "please confirm this is your email address" emails - in the end I rang him with the number he had provided to the airline - turns out his email address is the same but he has some numbers on the end where I don't!


 
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[i]So between those two things is there a window for someone to have registered with the wrong email? Although you'd think he'd realise he didn't get the confirmation... weird. [/i]

So mistyped his email address when creating it, typed what he thought was the correct email address to then log into itunes, which was the OP's email address really, but managed to login as they both have exactly the same password.


 
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It would be a better story if he had a smoking hot celebrity girlfriend, complete with iCloud photos which you then posted here 8)

Anyway the way all those Apple accounts that where broken were by guessable passwords and security questions so perhaps yours aren't as random as you think.


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 5:16 pm
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So Tiger is calling me a liar?


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 5:33 pm
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Who'd have thought Fight Club could morph into Groundhog Day with a little help from an internet forum...


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 6:53 pm
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So Tiger is calling me a liar?

Nope, but two people having the same U&P on Apple should be impossible and if you logged in and somebody else is using your account it isn't a strange coincidence it's something more un-toward.

Apple has had proven weaknesses in it's Password recovery systems though, so there is a strong case of your account is being used by somebody else.

And correct the below if I've got this wrong; but it doesn't stack up how I think I've got it.

You tried to register....

When you register it asks for your 'current' email, it then uses this as a unique identifier, emails are unique no question on that two people cannot have the same current email.

At this point it tells you that Username/Apple ID (your current email address) is taken / already in use.

So you try to Log in using your current email address & and your standard password
(Apple IDs need a fairly strong password 8 Chars & 1Cap, 1Letter, 1Number and no consecutive)

So your current email address and a strong password logs you into an account and somebody else is using it.

At this point it's not a coincidence, what are the chances, if somebody else is using your email address then something is very wrong.

You message him, how did you message him BTW? (You can't email as the email is your current email?)

I'm sorry but I just can't work it out? Where I have gone wrong?


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 6:53 pm
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Pretty much it. I imessaged him.

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Im unsure which of us created the account, maybe I did years ago and his details managed to populate it


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 7:05 pm
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If he's using your email then I don't think it's a happy coincidence, especially if you use the same password for your email.


 
Posted : 26/11/2014 7:10 pm
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Different password for email, anyone want his CC details for £20, that'll learn him 😉


 
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