[Closed] what to do when dog attacks your dog.....

Dogs get into fights. Not a police matter. Tell your dog to dtfu.

Wack the other dogs as hard as you can then think about consequences later. It's just a natural reaction to protect the weak ... no big deal.

I can assure you the dog will think twice next time to attack or not.

I have dealt with aggressive dogs many times in my life ... the dogs hated me but they would think twice before they ran towards me coz they would have a metal pipe pain straight into it's head. Wack! You see them running away dazed. Aim for the head but not the snout coz the latter might kill them.

I did't intend to give them permanent injury just to teach them a lesson.

You think too much. 🙄

[quote=5thElefant ]Dogs get into fights. Not a police matter. Tell your dog to dtfu.

Yeah right. So it's fine for another dog to attack your dog which is minding it's own business?

Police rubbish as usual over this sort of thing - other dog was clearly dengerously out of control which is an offence.

Our dog was attacked unprovoked last year by a staffy that was off its lead (ours was on a lead) I just kept kicking it as hard as I could until it decided it had enough, took at least 10 hard kicks though!

Then the owner appeared and threatened me for kicking his dog, perfect example of a dog only being as bad as it's owner 🙄

Ended up with a nice vets bill for a gash to our dogs mouth, did report it but apparently the dog would have had to have bitten a person for anything to be done!

At the very least, you should be able to claim for your dog's treatment at the vet.

Should be pretty straightforward to establish failure to keep his dog under control and your financial loss as a result.

He's obviously got no moral qualms about his dog doing this sort of thing, and it doesn't sound like you're likely to change his mind on that front. But if you can make it financially worth his while to keep his dog on a tether or put a better fence in, you might still get the result you want.

5thElefant » Dogs get into fights. Not a police matter. Tell your dog to dtfu.
Yeah right. So it's fine for another dog to attack your dog which is minding it's own business?

No, it's not fine, but it isn't a criminal offence. Had the OP been "worried or afraid" the other dog might bite him, then it is an offence.

Maybe Plod aren't up to speed with the new legislation...
http://blogs.rspca.org.uk/insights/2014/05/14/how-the-changes-to-the-dangerous-dogs-act-affect-you-and-your-dog/#.Vdh5tflVikp

would have had to have bitten a person for anything to be done!

Just read Mark's after mine.

You can buy third party liability insurance for your dog, so it must be established that you can be held liable for damage done to other people's property by your dog.

And if you're dog is on the receiving end of damage by someone else's, and you suffer financially as a result, that would be something you can seek compensation for?

I know this sounds like it's al about the money, but that's not really where I'm coming from. It's like when public prosecution for manslaughter or murder isn't pursued or fails due to a legal technicality, and the family take up a civil case to establish guilt. Not really about he money, more about finding a different way to arrive at a decision and a public acknowledgement that the bad thing that happened was that guy's fault.

OK lets say he was walking with a child that was attacked on a public footpath, would they just have to ctfu ?

I'm sure as a child I read in the SAS Survival Handbook that you should poke your finger up its arse in this situation. Unless that was when a wolf is trying to eat you?

EDIT Seems out of context now, I was answering the title question.

SiB your local to me, just for reference/safety give us a clue where it was

MarkBrewer - Member
Our dog was attacked unprovoked last year by a staffy that was off its lead (ours was on a lead) I just kept kicking it as hard as I could until it decided it had enough, took at least 10 hard kicks though!

When dogs are fighting their adrenaline are pumping so high that they went into crazed mode. Try as you might to shout at them they cannot hear you. Kick as much as you like at their bodies nothing happen.

I used to separate dog fights (our two stoopid ones) and usually you let them grab/bite on each other first when their movements are slow then you go in for the "kill". Ya, you need to remain calm first. When dogs are in a fight there will be a period of time where they bite one another that is where they you have time to target the one(s) you want.

If they are pit bull or highly dangerous ones ... aim for the snout slightly further from the eyes then give it a big wack. If the jaws were already locked onto you/your dog then if you hit the snout with all you have ... it will leave the other dog(s) having difficulty breath so will let go.

Our westie was attacked by a Staff. My dog badly bit the owners hand when she stuck her hands in. It came out 50:50 with hers with puncture wounds and mine with a bloody ear.

Never ever stick your hands in.

OP report the dog and owner.

Your dog was attack unprovoked so its natural that you got angry.

I'd call the police and inform the dog warden , the dog / owner might be known to them .

This is a good technique for separating two dogs ..

Breaking Up a Dog Fight with Another Person
1. Each of you shall grab the back legs of the fighting dogs, and then pick them up like wheelbarrow. With the dogs’ legs up, they are pulled apart and kept from each other.
2. Do this by circling behind one pooch, grabbing his back legs, and then raising them up into the air. Without the use of his back legs, the dog will be forced to stand on his front legs and will not be able to continue fighting
.3. Separate the dogs as you back away slowly. Just hold their feet or legs continually as you move in a smooth backward arc. That way, your pet won’t be able to reach around and bite you. Because the dog will only be using his front legs, he’d be kept from maneuvering with any agility.

Presume the OP is in England. In Scotland this would be a crime as I'd say he had "reasonable cause for annoyance."

Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982
8. Section 49(1) of the Civic Governm
ent (Scotland) Act 1982 makes it an offence
for any person to allow any creature, includ
ing a dog, to cause injury or danger to
any other person who is in a
public place or to give that person reasonable cause for
alarm or annoyance.

MrOvershoot...........public footpath down the side of Barnston Dale Camp, Storeton Lane end by the stile. Walking round area daily with two dogs - springer and Spanish water dog, say hello if you see me!

Update....just got back from going round to see him, as predicted it was unpleasant at beginning so changed tact and talked dogs, it calmed the situation down, pleased with myself!

Had a bit of an Inbetweener moment though (rollercoaster @ Thorpe Park!)...after all the shouting and threats had stopped he said couldnt afford proper fence as was laid off work after bad car crash up the road a few years ago and jobless ever since (shame to say that looking at the property and cars this could be true), very restricted movement in his hand kind of backed this up. Went on to say his wife had good job a couple of years ago but she had two strokes that changed all that......I'm obviously a sucker for a sob story! Went on to say his dog is a rescue dog, with cancer that he couldnt afford to have any treatment on.......funny how some info can diffuse a situation!

Got thinking that maybe he was playing mind games with me, make me feel sorry for him and in doing so make me change my tact.....it worked if that was his plan which was good as it became quite civil after that.

He said he would contribute to vets bill.....after telling me life was v tough and reason was fence had gaps in was because he couldnt afford to fix it. Mind game??

Asked him if I should report him to council or will fence definitely be fixed v soon? He said I've got to do what I think is right.....hows that for mind games?? Went on to say the council would give him hassle which might send his wife over the edge again, and that he's now going to fix it whether council involved and keep dog under control until its sorted. My head is telling me to tell council but heart saying give the poor bloke a chance. I think I know the answer but what would you do?

He said his granddaughter was most important thing in his life so I obviously had the "what if a grandmother was walking with her granddaughter and dog on lead up the path which they often do" conversation, it seemed to have some effect, hopefully fence will be repaired v soon if he sticks to his words. Even had the "you'll have to get an extendable lead and just stand with your dog in garden until fence fixed if it needs to go in the garden" conversation.....agreed but I have my doubts.

Yes, I know dogs fight, just a bit p1ssed off that through no fault of my own I may have a vets bill to settle and although he said he would contribute that could be unlikely whether his stories are true or not. I wouldnt go down the legal route to claim costs back and maybe he knows this so plead poverty etc.

Have bathed gash and put antiseptic cream on...does savlon work for dogs?? Shes not wincing or moving when I touch cut and Im now wondering if I shaved area and made a few strips out of plasters to pull gash together would this work? Just re-read this q...sexual innuendos were not intended! Plus side is that wound is out of her reach so she cant bite the strips off if I go down this route.

When I say gash its about 5cm long and 1cm wide so not really a big gash as i may have made out, its just looks nasty, not too deep but very red and pink (not dripping blood) and I can pinch it together easily. #youtubeveterinaryskillsforbeginners coming up!! Any recommendations gained from real life dog wound experiences are welcomed!

So his dog attacks another dog then.

Some good advice for breaking up dog fight, must keep my middle finger lubed at all times.

it was far from a fight, more of a one bite to warn you off move. Dog very big showing its teeth and barking when I confront it when my two are on the lead behind me (believe me when I say that takes some skill as my two are obviously not holding back!)....it does run off when I start shouting at it and lashing out at it, it has never gone to bite me. Its not the point though, its an aggressive dog not under control.

This is what you get when you have dogs, tbh I reckon they're evil things.
I know that comment is unhelpful and irrelevant to some degree but this country is plagued with unruly dogs.
Can't they all be fluffy, quiet and not shit everywhere. 👿

Take your dog to the vet and set your insurance on them. Mine were very keen to folliw it up when mine was biten but as it was a playing acident I didnt get address or other details to passvon.

Can't you use superglue to seal cuts of that size? I think I've heard about that for working dogs on shoots when they get caught by barbed wire.

I am.sorry but the op and others must be trolling the forum

Every dog owner with an aggressive dog has always insisted that their pooch has never done it before. Therefore any suggestion that there are repeated incidents should be treated with incredulity and dismissed as the fantasies of dog haters

Edit: I'm not recommending you glue your dog up for one minute, just showing it can be done.

SiB - Member

MrOvershoot...........public footpath down the side of Barnston Dale Camp, Storeton Lane end by the stile. Walking round area daily with two dogs - springer and Spanish water dog, say hello if you see me!

Oh you mean the bit I pretend isn't a footpath on my bike 😉 Rode up there on Wednesday evening & surprisingly saw not a single person. The fact that it was hosing down and a bit blowy might have had an effect.

I'm a bit wary/scared of dogs as I still have the scars on my throat from being attacked by a dog when I was 5 🙁

Dogs get into fights. Not a police matter. Tell your dog to dtfu.

+1

Use as much force as necessary to protect your dog, even if that means killing the other owners dog.

It's their problem, you shouldn't have to deal with it. Fed up with ****ing chavs running around with roided out staffies off their leashes.... that end up attacking other dogs.

Breaking Up a Dog Fight with Another Person
1. Each of you shall grab the back legs of the fighting dogs, and then pick them up like wheelbarrow. With the dogs’ legs up, they are pulled apart and kept from each other.
2. Do this by circling behind one pooch, grabbing his back legs, and then raising them up into the air. Without the use of his back legs, the dog will be forced to stand on his front legs and will not be able to continue fighting
.3. Separate the dogs as you back away slowly. Just hold their feet or legs continually as you move in a smooth backward arc. That way, your pet won’t be able to reach around and bite you. Because the dog will only be using his front legs, he’d be kept from maneuvering with any agility.

Have you seen videos of some of these fighting dogs? The only way you would get them to break grip is by caving their skulls in.

Wow less than a mile from me. Sometimes run along that path.

Aggressive dogs and dick head irresponsible owners really piss me off so now I carry a defense device, its legal here.

there is also a device that emits a ultrasonic sound and it stops a dog but not 100% effective.

a dog dazer. http://www.amazon.com/Dog-Dazer-II-Ultrasonic-Deterrent/dp/B000IBRI2Y

Our dog was attacked by another when we were sat in a pub beer garden. Police were interested and visited them after. It wasn't the first complaint about the dog.... And more importantly the owners. Dogs are not bad, it's how they are trained.

Without being all STW, it could be a child's face next time

Wicki , wheres are you based thsts legal to carry a defence device ?

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This was suggested to us by the (former police dog handler) trainer at puppy training classes and has worked well for us. A few squirts in the mouth stops them doing whatever they're doing; he also suggested it as a harmless defensive measure against other dogs.

I have an on/off aggressive dog with epilepsy. We're not sure if the epilepsy was due to the abuse he suffered as a puppy. Thrown against walls, down stairs etc. He does have a problem with receptive behaviours and routine.

However we manage it quite effectively, full body harness, long line for leg stretch. I carry a soft muzzle for when he is having a difficult day, his harness is has bright red "nervous dog' panels on it. We have a compound we use where he can run off the lead away from other dogs.

He's never bitten another dog, even if he's wanted to because I manage him effectively. Most owners don't bother with obedience training, or more importantly socialisation. The lemon juice works as a training tool, also if a dog is attacking yours squirt it in his eyes. Harsh but they will release.

pepper spray is legal here and can be bought on Amazon.

A friends Jack Russell was killed in front of her by a Bull Terrier.
This was the second dog to be killed by the Bull Terrier and the only police action was to advise the owner to keep it on a lead.
My dog,a King Charles was attacked by a neighbours dog and the owner had to beat it off with an umbrella.
It attacked again a few weeks later but luckily i was there and gave the dog a hefty boot to the chest to get it off.
Out on my bike i get a phone call from my wife saying don't come back home yet as her boyfriend is here threatening to kill me.He's shouting and swearing and going mental.
About a week later a car pulls up at the side of me and he jumps out.I wasn't intimidated and told him exactly what happened and that if i'd had a stick i'd have you used that on his dog,and would do again.He said he wasn't told about the attack,just that i'd kicked the dog for no reason.
Chewkw has it right. Hit the other dog as hard as you can and act quickly.

Hit the other dog as hard as you can and act quickly.

Be very careful, some of the dogs I've dealt with at the rescue would tear your assaulting appendage off without a second thought, they've gone on to be destroyed, but god knows what damage they've done before we get our hands on them.

Some breeds you will have to be fully committed to going all the way in defending your dog as a few hits could make things worse.

Edit: My pooch is a Patterdale/Whippet cross. So far from a traditional dangerous breed. Just a very nervous and fearful old boy.

A few years back I was driving along and passed a woman walking along an A road, no path, she was right by the verge/metal barrier, seemingly miles from anywhere. Something seemed 'off' about it so pulled in little way further as soon as I saw somewhere safe.

We got out of the car to see her approach, to see a limp little dog in her arms, front of her shirt completely covered in blood. She broke down and I put a towel along the backseat and helped her inside. Her dog was dead, she managed to explain that she was walking on a footpath half a mile or so back and an unleashed akita had ripped into her dog. She told us that he man who owned the akita had left her at the spot to deal with the tragedy alone, simply stating 'it looks like it's still breathing', before taking himself and his dog back down the path leaving her to walk down a dangerous road carrying her dead pet.

Ah, Akitas. The new status dog. We've seen an increase in these being bred with Huskies and Malamutes. As the regulations against bull breeds have got tighter, the usual suspects have switched onto these breeds.

Unfortunately, most of the people like that use the dog as an extension of their egos or use the dog to deliberately intimidate people because they're weak, bullies.

The two Staffy pups I posted in another forum were from a mother who was 11 months old, face covered in scars from fighting. The pups had to be taken from her at 3 weeks old because she didn't have a clue what to do, affection and nurturing were not things she could give.

All the pups we've fostered have had some form of mistreatment or neglect in their young lives. There are some absolute animals out there who have no idea or care how to appropriately treat and train their pet. I'm all for people being licensed to own dogs, and new offences created to criminalise these scumbags and lock them up for much longer than the law currently allows.

Use as much force as necessary to protect your dog, even if that means killing the other owners dog

This.
Not afraid to say I've lashed out at a few when I had dogs, some years ago. I was younger & braver (dafter) then though. I used to always take some old handle bars with a single grip left on.

Bars were only 500mm then.
You'd do some damage with these 900mm risers they use these days. 🙂

Unfortunately, most of the people like that use the dog as an extension of their egos or use the dog to deliberately intimidate people because they're weak, bullies.

That was entirely the impression I got. A lab attacked our dog last year, entirely unprovoked. The owner wasn't fussed about it, neither did he make good on his offer to compensate/contribute vet bills - the 'shoulder shruggers' of life seem to think that 'dogs will be dogs' - except it's their dog and more importantly their ownership that is at fault.

Similar to the OP's experience, our little rescue dachs was attacked by a mad terrier that ran out of a property under a hole in the gate. Not thinking I whacked the dog with my walking stick. And hard. It limped off shrieking, prob broke its leg in hindsight , I felt bad immediately but I just wanted to get it off so didn't think about the force just reacted. No owner present but I can imagine their response might not have been understanding :-/

pepper spray

Pepper spray is a firearms offence in the UK.

You need to chuck a poisoned steak over the fence.... and hope the dog owner has it for dinner 🙂

Then kill the dog with fire too.

My wife & I had just left Podgy Paws in Keswick with out 4 month old labradoodle & a woman was outside with a huge dog that clearly was not under control & she had a look of panic on her face, we tried to steer clear as we went past, the dog lunged at ours & swiftly had it by the throat, I grew up with animals on a farm mas a lad & have always been comfortable with animals, swifty I turned & got my wife out of the way & then grabbed the dog by its head & twisted it severely, dog yelped & let go of ours, woman in question was in tears, said oh it usually has a muzzle on as it's done it before, well why the F&ck didn't it now on a busy day in Keswick, my thoughts are if you own a dog with a known history of biting / going for other dogs or people then get a muzzle on it, if ours did it would wear one. A minute later husband appears from Booths, looks at me with Anger ! she's crying, says oh it's our dogs fault, he comes close & I then tell him in no uncertain terms what his wife admitted to re dogs behavior, however words exchanged & if you'd like to have a word in private i.e sort it out man to man then lets go, hmm ok he then shuts up backed down & apologized, later in the afternoon, there they are in Keswick square with a muzzle on the dog, he looked at me with a very sheepish look on his face, Would I do it again, Yes I would because I will protect either my dog or my wife however if my dog bit some one then I would admit to it take steps to resolve it sensibly, if you own a dangerous dog with a history then do something about it.

if you own a dangerous dog with a history then do something about it.

And that is just about the crux of it. IF your dog as a behavioural issue you have a responsibility to ensure you attempt to treat it, or manage it if, like in my case there are issues with brain function.

Whenever we take Dillion anywhere new, or when I've taken him to BDS rounds, he's muzzled. This is more for his protection than any other dogs. He will react with aggression when he's scared, there's just as much chance of him snapping at the wrong dog and having a beast cause him some damage.

He's got better, but as we have to revisit his training every couple of months and start from scratch each time, it's a constant thing. But these are the things you must do, but many do not bother. With the right training, you can train any dog from the right age to be a respectful, well mannered and well natured dog. The effort required though is often more than individuals want to contribute.

Well said Moose couldn't agree more, we have had a doggy trainer to Oscar & though not as much as we'd like, done training with him & now a year old not snapped once, we did Honister dales head back over maiden moor Ispy down the lake recently, glorious weather & decided to let him go for a swim, a real water pooch, get the boat back to Keswick, lots of small noisey kids patting him and one who wouldn't stop tapping him on the nose much as I tried to stop this kid his mother just laughed it of, Oscar just looked with bemused a look on his face as if to say oh do bugger of & he never growled got pissed of once & I think as you rightly say moose it's training that does that.

malven....that would break heart....only thing I could think of worse is a woman holding a dead kid....the sexist in me hates seeing women upset.

He said he would contribute to vets bill.....after telling me life was v tough and reason was fence had gaps in was because he couldnt afford to fix it. Mind game??

Yeah make sure he does. The guy whos dog attacked ours agreed to pay half, and then he stopped answering his phone when I sent him the payment details/vet details.

Times they are-a-changin'... 😕

Many years ago in the far east I tried to break up a fight between my landlord's dog and the Japanese neighbour's Japanese Spitz. My landlord's dog was a large mongrel (local dog) and when the Japanese Spitz ventured into it's boundary the mongrel attacked it.

It was a savage attack that I was determined to stop and while I was searching for a big stick to break up the fight (mongrel was gaining upper hand throughout), the fight continued on from top of the hill until the semi-jungle foot hill, I could hear the Japanese Spitz "crying" and by the time I jumped onto the foot hill (over the fence etc) the Japanese Spitz was already very dazed and the final bite in the stomach by the mongrel was the last straw then one "yelp" from the Spitz the fight was over. The Spitz was motionless.

After that it was my turn to torture (more like beating the hell out of it) my landlord's mongrel for the next several hours beating it as much as I could, ya I was on "fire", until the mongrel dared not even looked at me. One stare from me and it would find a hiding place.

When the landlord came home he was surprised that his dog was so timid when I was nearby and would hide from me. Ya, I beat the crap out of it whenever the landlord was not around. This continued, whenever the landlord was out, until I moved out from the house but the mongrel was fine except that it dare not stay in court yard when I was alone in the house or whenever I was around. (most dogs in the far east are left to roam the street and once I was able to save a pregnant neighbour's cat nearly being torn apart by four other mongrels on the same street but not sure if the cat survive but it was bleeding from the mouth by the time I alerted the owner).

Luckily, we lived in an area where dog meat was not consumed otherwise we would have dog stew.

😈

You need to chuck a poisoned steak over the fence.... and hope the dog owner has it for dinner

Then kill the dog with fire too.

Some prat has been leaving poisoned sandwiches and meat around the wirral way and also putting tin tacks in them, some pathetic dog hating people out there.

Can of deoderant squirted at fighting dogs also stops them, the polioce use a co2 fire extinguishjer , but theyre a bit to heavy to carry on a walk, although you could hang one from a st bernards neck instead of a whiskey barrel.

Hope doggy makes a good recovery.

This thread makes me glad I've got a lurcher any dog wants to eat her has got to catch her first!

There will allways be exceptions but some breeds just have a killer instinct bred into them over the years and no matter how much training,the potential to attack is still there

Still have flashbacks to my young springer spaniel getting flattened by an English Bull Terrier and having her throat being held tight.

Me and 3 mates literally kicked 7 shades of shite out of that dog for what seemed like forever. One guy came with a tree branch and rammed it in the dogs mouth while we just kept on running up and booting the dog wherever we could kick it. Eventually its jaws were prised open and my springer, shitting itself was still alive.

The English bull terrier just collapsed in a heap. There were mitigating circumstances re the attacking dog and I got in a lot of trouble off my dad after I explained the holes in my dogs neck and all the blood. End of the day we just panicked and attacked as best we could.

Friend of the family used to have a little staffie which was very well natured but seemed to attract trouble from other dogs. She took to walking with an old horse riding whip to ward off the other dogs (her dog was always on lead).

Aright, I am having flashbacks again

thegreatape - Member
I'm sure as a child I read in the SAS Survival Handbook that you should poke your finger up its arse in this situation.

This is something I've heard too, a pit bull grabbed the throat of a friend's labrador at a dog training class, and it's apparently exactly what the trainer did. She said the dog let go instantly.

So, the general consensus is that the OP's dog need not DTFU, but the OP should defeat the other dog in battle and/or with anal fingering?

Fair enough. 🙂

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It was early, I meant to be a bit more sympathetic to you OP. I've seen a woman weeping and screaming "help me" (people did) after a doberman savaged her dog in a park. Given the massive differences in breeds and reasons people own them, DTFU advocates should do something else that ends in TFU.

I did wonder if there was a sob story behind a house with a broken fence and loose dog, and the one you related is very believable nowadays. I wouldn't worry about whether it's true or not. Provided my dog was okay, I would buy him a rope and some kind of anchor point and take them round (or some things to patch the fence with). I know it seems counter intuitive, but it wouldn't be expensive and it goes right around any claim of poverty whether it's true or not. If he's actually poor it's an act of compassion and good for your neighbourhood, and if he's just lying and can't be arsed, it's something else you can tell the council.

Not read all of this, so forgive if someone has posted.
Amazon sell strong bleach. Decant some into an atomizer. Spray at attacking dog. It'll take 2 or 3 goes before it will associate your dog with bleach. Ranty man sounds like a bit of a dick and not likely to do anything, but people don't react well to bleach spray either.

Are you seriously advising/ encouraging someone to spray bleach in an animals face ????

Most of the entire thread makes for pretty depressing reading, TBH.

I've seen a woman weeping and screaming "help me" (people did) after a doberman savaged her dog in a park. Given the massive differences in breeds and reasons people own them, DTFU advocates should do something else that ends in TFU.

Yup. A mate's dog was very nearly killed the other week. 50m of surgical thread and hundreds of staples in a miniature schnauzer.

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https://livinginthelanghe.wordpress.com/2015/07/27/the-power-of-positivity/

My staffy got set up on by two Alsatians and the owner just stood there, I don't think I have ever kicked anything so hard in my life. The dog yelped and started to go back to its owner, the other one let go and retreated as well. The owner says to me "No need for that" to my shame I lost it, was screaming obscenities and had him by the throat. He spluttered sorry and I let him go. He got about 10 feet away and suddenly became billy big bollocks saying he was going to have me and I need to watch my back. Poor Badger had about 7 puncture wounds on the back of his neck. Vet checked him out and he was fine.

Saw the bloke about 3 months later and he turned round and pretty much legged it.

Are you seriously advising/ encouraging someone to spray bleach in an animals face ???

to my shame I lost it, was screaming obscenities and had him by the throat

wondering if you see the irony in this post...

You should just get a cat. Or a number of them. They're miles better than dogs. You don't need to worry about this kind of thing, for a start. They just blood-curdlingly batter each other in the early hours of the morning! But it seems like they're all equally as up for a good ruck, so nobody gets savaged.

One of ours came in the other morning with 3 ripped out claws embedded in his head. He didn't seem particularly bothered by this. Mind you... he's a rescue cat, and is absolutely ****ing nails!! 😀

jam bo In hindsight I do, believe me 🙁

Some interesting reads and good advice, thanks for all of them.

48hrs on so have obviously calmed down a lot and time to think, decided I'm going to get muzzles for my two although I don't like the idea of them not having the ability to defend themselves if ever needed (yep, DTFU would help but see above posts re aggressive dogs!). Depending on size and proximity of other dogs mine either come back when called or have a bark and run at the other dog...yes, I guess thats 'out of control' and to the other owners could be regarded as aggressive behavior. I would be mortified if they bit another dog and when I have no control this could quite possibly happen. Lesson learnt but on the wrong dog!! They're more inquisitive and lively than aggressive but just aren't too sociable unless its a familiar dog.

Dog is fine btw, kept wound clean and sprayed with antiseptic, scabbing up nicely now. I just wish I had read the superglue method of closing the cut, it looked perfect for the job but I left it too late and the cut wasn't pushing together easily and there was a good chance the glue would have gone in the open wound. Off to vets later for their annual jabs so I'm expecting a slapped wrist and why I should have come straight to the vets speech.

Nach...that's what I'm going to do, big rope and anchor point to take round for them, hopefully it'll get used, I shall definitely be walking that way more often to find out.

Mum is a daily walker round these parts and she has had run ins with him too but luckily she doesnt have a dog with her so it was a case of the alsation just barking at her (on the public footpath) and scaring her. Its happened to her before with same dog and on all occasions the dog has just let its presence be known and gone back to its garden ....still not a good situation and could be completely different with unsuspecting person. Anyway, she contacted the council this morning to report it again, I'm sure i would have, one day soon?