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Morning all 😎
And so begins an hour of very boring physio work before hopefully a quick spin with the sunrise
Morning! Despite having a difficult tooth extraction late yesterday ( dentist had to stop and feed me lucozade I'd gone so pale and sweaty!) And being in pain I've had a good 6hrs sleep. Wide awake at the normal time though
4:30 this morning, listened to the radio, BBC World Service until 5:20. Now drinking a cup of tea waiting until it's light enough to go for a run. Went to bed last night at about 10:30 and read for about 15 minutes.
Up and about from 0530. Sometimes it's straight on to my bike for a 1hr 30 commute in. Today it's a quick but of work from home, in the car by 0700 and first commitment at work at just after 0800.
Now!
6ish alarm or no alarm. I like it, I see no superiority in it. But on the rare occasion I do lie in... It's going to be a doozy.
Around 6. I cannot lie in, latest I have got up in the last 10 years would be around 7 I would guess.
Earliest my wife has got up in last 10 years is probably 8 o'clock. We have very different bio clock things.
I have typically got up, fed animals, gone for a ride, had shower and some food before my wife is even awake.
5.30am once! Use to be half an hour before I left for work and out the door at 6am when I use to work and drive up to the big smoke. Now alot older its not much different 6.15am ish but this because it takes me ages to get my body moving properly. I certainly couldn't fall out of bed and go to work in half an hour now!
07:05 mon-fri to get kids up for school, sit around drinking coffee with intermittent shouts of 'can you hurry up please' then when cycling to work leave 7:45 - 8am. Weekends somewhere between 7 and 9 depending on booze or the cat waking me.
Go to bed rarely before 11:30, wife mocks me for having to go to bed so early! She's a night owl and will happily work until 2am then get up at 7:30. Kids also now joining in with the mocking of my 'early nights'.
5.45 to 6am if working. Anything between 8 and 11 on a weekend.
Entirely depends on my shifts.
If I’m working days from my base then 5.45am, if it’s days in the control room then 4.45am. If I’m starting nights, like today, I’ll try to sleep until late morning. If I’ve been on nights, finished the morning before, it’ll be nearer 10. If I’m on a run of days off then 8am to 9am depending what I have on.
5.30 most days for me, I'm out walking the dog by 5.50. Thursday mornings are a struggle after the mid week night ride.
I have always been a morning person and like to be in bed making Zzzz's by 11pm.
alarm at 07.00 week days, usually up about 8.00 on a Saturday as my daughter has a drama class at 09.00.
Sundays probably 08.00 - 09.00 dependant on what i'm doing - summer i'll usually get up a bit earlier to get out for a ride.
I don't enjoy getting up early and really need a solid 7 hours sleep per night.
WFH so 7.30, even at the weekends.
This is not meant to be a willy waving, four Yorkshiremen type post
And yet! All the 4:3-5:30 answers! 😆 Strange people.
All depends what I'm doing. Alarm is set for 6:40 on mornings I commute, which is 3 or 4 days a week. The rest is whenever I get up. If I woke at anytime before half 5 I'd be pretty pissed off that I hadn't had enough sleep.
Normally hit the sack around 10:30 - 11:30pm. Fall asleep pretty quickly. Alarm is set for 7am. Normally drag myself out of bed by 7:30am.
And yet! All the 4:3-5:30 answers!
That's not willy waving, that's an admission that I've got something tragically wrong and have to squeeze all the 'me' time into a 2-3hr window in the mornings 🙄
Was in bed at 8:30pm last night just to ensure I was up bright and early this AM! 😂
I was actually up at 6am this morning - but not through design. My wife and youngest are both ill and were up on the hour every hour. The joy...
And yet! All the 4:3-5:30 answers! 😆 Strange people.
Eh? I get up at 4.30 because it suits me, I'm way more productive if I get to the gym in the morning...it works for me and my family. Not at all about feeling superior, we all work differently.
I listened to a brilliant podcast a while ago where they interviewed a sleep expert (sorry, can't remember which podcast). He said every person has an optimum sleep duration, it varies by person but is usually between 7-8hours. The really interesting bit though was about sleep deficit. Every night that you sleep less than your optimum, you build up a deficit, it accumulates but to clear this deficit, you only ever need to have one optimum sleep. So if your optimum is 7 hours, you can clear any deficit with 7 hours quality sleep. In other words, there is no advantage to a long lie in.
I've worked out my optimum is around 7 1/2 hours. So typical is 11pm bed, 6.45 am get up. I could get up later but I like to walk the dog and be home before Thought for the Day kicks in on Today programme. Can't be doing with being preached at in the morning.
First alarm is set for 6:30. Then I get 10 minutes of denial until the next one goes off at 6:40. I'm normally up at that one. There's also a 7am one set as a back up for when they eyes won't open. There's just time for a quick coffee before waking the kids at 7am. Then it's an hour of sorting breakfasts/lunches/school suff before getting them to school and back home to log in for work at around 8:30.
Weekends my bladder seems to wake me up before 7 then the dog hears me moving so I have to go down to let her out. Generally head back to bed with coffee and a cuppa for the wife if we have no rush to be up and about.
Oh, and normally asleep by 11pm, often 10.30pm.
I stand by my "strange" statement 😀
My wake up times are all over the shop as I work a 24/7 shift pattern. I can literally start work at any given minute of the day. However I seem to be doing more than my fair share of early mornings (which means a start time anywhere between midnight and 6a.m.). When it's my day off I'd get up with the kids at 7 but I'll have probably been awake before that by virtue of either needing a pee or the fact that I'd collapsed into bed early the night before.
As an aside the really early shifts, those between midnight and say, 2, are the worst as I seem to get really bad alarm anxiety on those shifts and end up beating the alarm on almost every occasion after already having had a few wake ups in the night. Tend to come home feeling really jetlagged. This in turn makes me a little giddy and it's like having an overcaffienated 3rd child in the house.
04:00 4 days per week and 06:00 the other 3.
EDIT - I work 4 12 hour days, I also commute on the bike for 2 hours on each of those days, so the 04:00 is pretty much a requirement.
Since I've had Long COVID and WFH, it's
Bed at midnight
Lights out 00:30
Alarm at 08:15
On weekends, before Long COVID I would quite often be out of bed before 10am. These days I am rarely up before noon 🙁
It's often a real struggle to make myself stop what I'm doing around 10.30pm and do some yoga and get ready for bed. I am far sharper and more engaged at 11pm than 11am. When I was self-employed (and single!) I was a bed at 03:00, up at 11:00 kind of person.
Incidentally, I notice a lot of people saying they nap in the day/afternoon. I have NEVER been able to nap in the day. Is this also an early/late risers difference?
5am on earlies, 8 am on lates if I can stay asleep. i usually wake up earlier than my alarm on late shift
Alarm set at 5.40, snoozed through every 5 minutes until 6.10. I'm up sorting cat/dog/children's breakfasts, wife is out running the dog.
Weekends are usually around 6.30-7.30 am, don't normally set an alarm.
During lockdown, particularly the first one I'd often be up and out on the bike by 5am, taking advantage of the quiet trails, but have rather fallen out of that habit.
Bedtime is usually between 10-11pm throughout the week.
Pffft, I'll make the lazy* people feel better, I wasn't up until 7:30.
Read and watched the news with a bowl of porridge and a coffee, then had a cup of tea and rode into work.
*alternative reading, there's lots of people with crazy commutes and sleep deprivation trying to make out it's by healthy choice.
As an evening person I'm really surprised by the replies on this thread being weighted to what's very early morning to me.
I'm strongly an evening person who also needs a lot of sleep. I have always struggled to get up in the morning, no matter what approach I take, but I am really productive late at night.
Left to my own devices I might get up at 9-9:30am and go to bed about midnight (with no responsibilities at all it would be even later!). Work says otherwise unfortunately, as does school so alarm goes at 7:45 and in bed by 10:30.
My eyes open close to 6am...a lie in for me is 6.45ish if I'm in bed near 8am then I must be ill..tbh I like getting up early , I like the peace and quiet and a un disturbed morning coffee...I love even more now the mornings are brighter....I always find it weird how people can just stay in bed.
Bedtime for me is around midnight
Being a variable pattern shift worker, I get up when I need to!
I listened to a brilliant podcast a while ago where they interviewed a sleep expert (sorry, can’t remember which podcast)
I think this is the one on Joe Wicks podcast (number 28).
I tend to go to either a swim or cross fit session at around 7pm. Back home by 8:15; eat and then chill and bed by 11:30ish. I am out like a light.
I have a Withings sleep monitor under by mattress that i got during the Covid lockdown to measure sleep, as the lack of activity gave me very bad insomnia. Just checked it for last night and my sleep score was 95/100 with depth and REM both high.
Early mornings won't work for me and never have.
Wtaf!!
I work from home and don’t get out my bed before 8.30. My body doesn’t Function before then
It does lead me to question how much more I’d get done if I got up at 6. I’ve occasionally tried to get up early and train on the turbo but I am utterly useless at that time so it’s pointless
I work from home and don’t get out my bed before 8.30. My body doesn’t Function before then
Same. Only way you're getting me out of bed at 6am is if I'm going on holiday and need to get to the airport!
A virtuous 5:25 for CrossFit 2 days a week as that’s all I can sustain. 6:45ish the rest of the week including weekends (no alarm but my body/bladder is a creature of habit).
Also early to bed- normally asleep by 10-10:15. I love a long deep sleep and don’t function well without it.
7/730. Really need to try getting up around 6 and getting out as it's the best part of the day now light.
Up and about from 0530. Sometimes it’s straight on to my bike for a 1hr 30 commute in. Today it’s a quick bit of work from home, in the car by 0700 and first commitment at work at just after 0800.
....and that's me home. Getting too old for this.
In the last few months I’ve gone from sleeping from 1:00 until 7:00 weekdays and 8:00 or 9:00 given the opportunity at weekends, to being wide awake once I’ve got up to use the bathroom. In the worst case this was at 4:30, more usually it’s between 5:30 and 6:00. If I can manage an afternoon nap it’s not too bad, otherwise it’s often frustrating.
Edit: my dad’s just had his second operation to reduce the size of his prostate - something that doesn’t bode well for me in terms of getting a good nights sleep if I go the same way as him (at its worst he was up every hour to use the bathroom).
I surely can't be the only nocturnal poster?
When I worked at an office I could go from asleep to washed and dressed and out of the door in about 15 minutes. Working from home involves crossing the landing and finding underpants before I open the blinds. My hours are flexible, they prefer that I'm present before 10am but no-one really cares. I aim to get up around 9am, this whole 4/5/6am would kill me.
Conversely, I'm up late. Part of my job is dealing with people in different countries, if I've got a support ticket logged with someone in California then it's going to be a long conversation if they're starting work just as I'm finishing. A 1am bedtime is typical. If you need me at 4am for some reason, I'll just stay up.
Blimey… has this thread attracted early risers or am I abnormally lazy in the morning? I like being up early on a nice day but I hate getting up… mind you I’m never in bed before 12.00 and it’s often much later than that.
I have a theory that I run to a day that's longer than 24 hours. I never want to go to bed, then when I'm in bed I never want to get out of it.
A while ago I was out of work (and probably undiagnosed clinically depressed) and I let biorhythms take over. I went to bed when I was tired and woke naturally. It got later and later, eventually I looped a day.
A bit like Cougar - especially now I’m no longer working, having been finally made redundant on Friday, I’m now getting my state pension, I’ve got someone sorting out a bunch of workplace pensions, so I can indulge my natural tendency to stay up late, usually listening to music, and getting up late, my natural wake-up time is around 10.20. *sigh*, no more 5am alarms ⏰🥳
Last few wake-ups have been
0300
0430
0715
0130
0515
I’ve a few days off coming up and will probably wake up at 0800-0900 naturally, so long as the cat doesn’t attack me earlier.
I’m a night-owl, so struggle to sleep before 2200, so an 0130 call hurts! Bouncing around the hours isn’t fun.
06:45 weekdays, 08:00 weekends
Always awake before these times but these are the get up times.
depends on work and training schedules, anytime from 3-6. I always prefer getting my exercise in first thing in the morning, so if I'm on the road early I'll try and get up earlier, so I'm exercised, fed and full of coffee before having to deal with motorway hell and people.
I'm a rubbish sleeper and have pretty much zero routine, not helped by shifts.
I get up at 5am when I have to for work, but left to my own devices I can easily sleep until 11am or later, it takes me ages to get to sleep though. If I go to bed at 10 ready for a 5am alarm I can often still be wide awake until 2am. I love an afternoon nap 🙂
This thread reminds me of when I worked at Bolsover Colliery.
Miner:- where do you come from?
Me:- high Wycombe
Miner (rather surprised):- what time does tha get oop int mornin? 🤣🤣
Not as bad as going to the laundry & being asked by two women "why aren't tha downt pub like other men" ah the enlightened 80's 🫣
I've been waking up between 5 and 5:30 for the last few weeks, whether I want to or not. Like the OP, I've tried going back to sleep and then I sleep badly and sometimes through my alarm which is usually set for 6:30.
...maybe the clocks changing this weekend will solve that? We'll see.
Wtaf!!
I work from home and don’t get out my bed before 8.30. My body doesn’t Function before then
It does lead me to question how much more I’d get done if I got up at 6. I’ve occasionally tried to get up early and train on the turbo but I am utterly useless at that time so it’s pointless
Same. Only way you’re getting me out of bed at 6am is if I’m going on holiday and need to get to the airport!
Yep, completely agree.
A group ride at 8:30am on a Sunday morning, 45 minutes drive away? Yeah, I'm not making that.
Not great at the moment - usually awake and up at 630, now struggling to get moving at 730!
This thread reminds me of when I worked at Bolsover Colliery.
Miner:- where do you come from?
Me:- high Wycombe
Miner (rather surprised):- what time does tha get oop int mornin? 🤣🤣Not as bad as going to the laundry & being asked by two women “why aren’t tha downt pub like other men” ah the enlightened 80’s
'Because I'm from Special Branch and can't drink on duty!'
🙂
We moved our weekend rides to 11 as a lot of the yoofs (under 60s) just didn't turn up. Now they turn up.
I’m up at 4:50 every morning and alternate my mornings between the gym and riding the bike. My kids are grown up and gone now, so we tend to hit the sack about 9:30 and read for an hour or so. Wouldn’t suit everyone I know, but I’ve been in this routine so long now I wake up the same time when we are away on holiday. That’ll be me walking round the pool on my own as the sun comes up 😂😂
20 past 6 this morning. a lie in for me.
It does lead me to question how much more I’d get done if I got up at 6. I’ve occasionally tried to get up early and train on the turbo but I am utterly useless at that time so it’s pointless
I WFH too and wake up between 5:30 and 7:30 depending on how tired I am (I can easily sleep 9pm-7:30am when I'm knackered). I don't get anything extra done if I wake up earlier, I just faff around and waste more time... If I'm feeling really enthusiastic I start work a bit earlier.
I have a theory that I run to a day that’s longer than 24 hours. I never want to go to bed, then when I’m in bed I never want to get out of it.
Are you a teenager?
to some extent I think this is actually true. Some folk run a 24hr plus body clock, some a 24hr minus body clock
Myself in my 50s i switched from late to rise late to bed to early to rise and fall asleep on the sofa at 9.30 🙂
waking at 5.30 - 6 am every morning is very annoying
my two yr old wakes up between 5:30 and 6, which is one thing. But invariably wakes in a screaming tantrum that will have woken the whole street up.
i suspect shes hungry cause she never eats her dinner, but cant articulate it so just starts smashing things.
Dick.
one of us has to take her downstairs have have "far too earty" breakfast with her.
Its invariably me.
Struggle with sleep and staying asleep so early mornings are not favourable.
Days I have work, Im up at 7am and usually feel like crap the rest of the day.
If Ive had a few days off and get up around 9am, I start to feel better. Then end up getting up at about 8am
Occasionally in the spring/summer I've forced myself to get up at 6:30 to go for an early ride, but then i suffer for a couple of days. Not from the ride, but from getting up early. Recently been going out for rides/runs at about 10:30am or 11am and feel great.
We moved our weekend rides to 11 as a lot of the yoofs (under 60s) just didn’t turn up. Now they turn up.
**** that! Right in the middle of the day. Ok if you don't want to get anything else done on that day but I always hate appointments like that.
I recently started taking Mirtazapine to try and sort out sleep issues I had all winter, getting to sleep and waking randomly in the middle of the night is rarely an issue issue now, problem is now I can easily drift back to sleep after waking and feel drowsy/groggy most of the day. Apparently it's a fairly common side effect that should subside, but I'm losing patience with it, might talk to GP about trying to phase it out.
5.30 this morning. I looked out of the window around 6am and my neighbour was heading out on his road bike. It shamed me into getting out for a few miles on the gravel bike instead of sitting on the sofa browsing the internet. Glad I did, it was a really nice morning.
to some extent I think this is actually true. Some folk run a 24hr plus body clock, some a 24hr minus body clock
Pretty sure I read something like that. I saw an article where someone postulated that people actually have anything between a 23 - 25 hour body clock. It was in the context of Northern Scandinavia in winter (ie the endless dark). People start to drift away from their normal routine, and there are stories of inviting someone round for coffee at 4, and they turn up at 4am, because they lose track of which is which.
This was 20-odd years ago. Probably less of an issue these days now that we all have smar****ches and digital clocks and stuff.
**** that! Right in the middle of the day. Ok if you don’t want to get anything else done on that day but I always hate appointments like that.
+1, I eventually gave up on Sailing as the local club insists on slitting the racing with a 10:30 start and a 2:00 start to allow for lunch. Fine, but the races are ~50minutes long, so I'm getting about 1h40 sailing time from an entire day (and I've got to spend the intervening 2 hours sat around in a wetsuit). I've got too much other stuff to get done to give up the entire day, just give us 2x races, back to back starting at 1:30 pm. 2 races, bar, home, done. They argue that it makes it more social and that he elderly cohort need the break. If I'd not been hanging around for 6 hours I'd be more sociable afterwards, and if someone can't cope with 2 hours on the water then surely that's their decision weather they only do the fist. And hey wonder why they struggle to retain members tat ar't retired.
That and 7:30 evening rides seem to have become a thing? That's either to late to come from work or too early to eat dinner. Just make it 6:15 like it always was.
7:30 evening rides seem to have become a thing?
A good thing.
ride at 8:30am on a Sunday morning,
Basically nope, unless it's a trip to the lakes or somewhere exciting. Local would be a 9:00 start which means getting on the bike at 8:45 to peddle up a hill to meet. "Oh but then you've got the rest of the day to get things done." Like that's a good thing - what do I want to "get done"? And also if it's a tough one, what gets done is mainly watching sport on telly and a nap. Nah, I listen to my body.
* that! Right in the middle of the day. Ok if you don’t want to get anything else done on that day but I always hate appointments like that.
It's been self proving in terms of numbers. The CTC in our area start at 8:30 and get the same 4 people, we have rides at 11 or 1 in the summer and get around 20.
So ** that and ride on your own.
and there are stories of inviting someone round for coffee at 4, and they turn up at 4am, because they lose track of which is which.
I used to do a weekly mix of 2-10 evening shifts and 7-3 day shifts. After the 3pm finish I would often fall asleep - wake up in the dark, look at the clock ( a 12 hr clock) and see 6 and panic thinking I was late for work. I never actually went in but came close a couple of times
+1, I eventually gave up on Sailing as the local club insists on slitting the racing with a 10:30 start and a 2:00 start to allow for lunch. Fine, but the races are ~50minutes long, so I’m getting about 1h40 sailing time from an entire day (and I’ve got to spend the intervening 2 hours sat around in a wetsuit). I’ve got too much other stuff to get done to give up the entire day, just give us 2x races, back to back starting at 1:30 pm. 2 races, bar, home, done. They argue that it makes it more social and that he elderly cohort need the break. If I’d not been hanging around for 6 hours I’d be more sociable afterwards, and if someone can’t cope with 2 hours on the water then surely that’s their decision weather they only do the fist. And hey wonder why they struggle to retain members tat ar’t retired.
+1 I hear you on this!. DOING the activity is the social bit, and a bit before and a bit after. And you don't want it to take up all day, you want it over and done with by 11am or whatever - so you can actually have a weekend to yourself! I feel the pain. If it was 5hours of sailing (might be unrealistic but you get my drift) then it would be worth losing a whole day to.
5am every morning, even weekends. It used to be 5:30 till we got a cat 9 years ago and the fat little git decided it would be a good idea to wake me up at 5 every day by standing on the edge of the bed and batting me with his paw till I got out of bed. To be fair to him I love early mornings and I do 40 mins of stretching/ yoga every day.
It won’t change now as my body clock is well and truly set.