[Closed] What time can builders start on a Sunday?

I'd complain to the builder or neighbour.

I would probably leave it till 9 on a Sunday but dont know what the law is

Looking on the bright side, the earlier they start the fewer days it will take them to complete the job.

Isn't it 7.30am regardless of the day (and no later than 11pm?)

Sound like a good builder, can you get me his number?

Shock horror - a lot of people work on weekends. There is nothing special about Sunday.

Just a normal day for them. If the noise is too loud or an issue in general then maybe you have something to go on.

I have had a quick word with my neighbour, who said he ask tell them to let me at least have peace until 8am (Sods law my little girl will have me awakes anyway!)

7:30 just seems silly on a Sunday, especially some councils official line is that you can't use power tools at all on a Sunday (Enfield council) - My parents neighbour is a right missery!

Sunday isn't a normal day - its the only day I get to sleep past 6am! (well a bit later on a Sat)

I actually don't have a problem with them working on a Sun - just waiting until 8-9am would be nice!(and considerate)

7:30 just seems silly on a Sunday, especially some councils official line is that you can't use power tools at all on a Sunday (Enfield council) - My parents neighbour is a right missery!

Wow sure the no power tools on a Sunday would last 2s under a serious challenge.

Why is Sunday different to Saturday or Tuesday?

Much earlier might be unreasonable but unless the building work required planning permission and therefore might have a restriction in place, then you are probably reliant on either common sense or the Noise Act, to protect you. The Noise Act defines "Night Hours" as 11pm-7am. Outside this time the local authority has no obligation to investigate.

Personally you might want to see it as an opportunity to get up and do something useful with the day rather than waste it in bed...

Did you want to be a NIMBY when you were little?

NIMBY?

Well personally you might, but not me. I'd hardly call sleeping until 8-9am wasting my day! Seriously - dismount the high horse!

Not in my back yard? (oh and I am still young to be fair!)

NIMBY?

Well personally you might, but not me.

Still not sure why you want to make it different on Sunday. Other people have a lie in on a Thursday.

Should all builders start only after ensuring the whole street has got up and had breakfast?

Did you want to be a NIMBY when you were little?

Did you want to think up of stupid things to post on forums when you were little?

Personally, if a builder started next door on a Sunday, let alone at 7.30am, I'd have a rocket up his arse and tell him to **** off and come back on Monday. Surely, you're "entitled" (but not by law, just common decency) to at least one day of quietness from building work next door.

Still not sure why you want to make it different on Sunday. Other people have a lie in on a Thursday.

Should all builders start only after ensuring the whole street has got up and had breakfast?

Hmmm....I wonder why most people have Sunday off...do you think it might not be a little bit different from other days in the week, or were you particularly eager to post an opposing viewpoint this evening?

Even the shops can't open early on Sundays! (at the moment)
We live in a democracy and majority rules - most people work Min-Fri, so we have this thing called a "weekend"

Deadlydarcy - think you have found Mr Nail & Mr Head there!

I have just grown up with people working over the whole week (on a farm) the idea that everyone should have Sunday off is outdated.

Currently I work the days I need to the GF does the same, this week she is off Thurs/Fri.

Certain shops can't open early, others can. In Scotland I seem to recall 24hr supermarket opening 7 days a week.

or were you particularly eager to post an opposing viewpoint this evening?

Just suggesting that there is no actual unified day of rest - there is a number of people who don't work Mon-Fri.

In fairness they only work weekends next door (though the fact I leave for work about 6:30, and am not normally home until 7 means I wouldn't know if they did anyway) which is kind of irrelevant!

Hmmm....I wonder why most people have Sunday off...do you think it might not be a little bit different from other days in the week, or were you particularly eager to post an opposing viewpoint this evening?

This 100%

Of course Sunday is different. Anyone that claims to think it isn't, is clearly looking for someone to disagree with.

As a percentage of the population, how many people are at work at 7:30 on a Sunday morning I wonder ?

rather than waste it in bed

Since when is being in bed a waste of time? Sleep does all sorts of great things for you, don't skimp on it.

On a farm, where the noise you make is such a massive disturbance to your neighbours? Yes of course.

The idea that everyone should have Sunday off is far from outdated...because I reckon the great majority of the population don't work on a Sunday. Builders have plenty of time from Monday to Saturday to do their banging and crashing around and should give neighbours a break on Sunday at least.

there is a number of people who don't work Mon-Fri.

Yep, but builders aren't in that group...at least not the ones that do renovations in peoples' houses while they piss off to get away from the disturbance.

I actually have no problem with Sunday working (unless it's noisy, all year round and in a purely residential area). If I lived next to a farm, I'd expect it, if I lived next to a hospital I'd expect, if I live in a nice quiet neighbourhood I wouldn't. You choose your neighbourhood, and your house and you pays your money according to location and size - simples. I actually have no neighbours that work weekends, so would expect most people to be asleep at that time on a Sunday!

stew1982 - Member
Even the shops can't open early on Sundays! (at the moment)
We live in a democracy and majority rules - most people work Min-Fri do we have this thing called a "weekend"

However it is a free society and you could move to an area like the Outer Hebrides where Sunday is still different and you will get funny looks for hanging your washing out. {Ironically your weird Sunday opening rules for shops don;t apply in Scotland, yet it is here that there is this last enclave of staunchly protecting the Sabath]

I actually don't have a problem with them working on a Sun - just waiting until 8-9am would be nice!(and considerate)

to at least one day of quietness from building work next door

You are upset enough to post on an internet forum the day after being woken up half an hour early; do you think you have this in proportion?

I think he's being overly reasonable to be honest; as I said, I'd keep at them till they ****ed off and gave me some peace.

the Outer Hebrides where Sunday is still different

Sunday is still different all over the country, not just The Outer Hebrides.

once you are up you can go and ride your bike

Sometimes, on a Sunday, I don't go and ride my bike and I certainly don't expect some builder next door to force me out to get a bit of peace. I might want to get the paper, have a brew and sit down for a bit of R&R - and I don't want to listen to somebody making a racket next door...[i]all day[/i]. Somebody mowing the lawn? Yeah fine, it's only going to be for a half an hour or something. No big deal.

Fair enough then......
I wasn't just taking the opposite side for sport but more that I've seen the other side. A local quarry where I used to live was petitioned but people (who had all moved to the area recently) due to them daring to make a noise on a Saturday morning. I've seen plenty of sites that work 24/7.

2001 figures had about 16% of the population working shifts officially
add in small business hard to pick when they are not working, farming (about 1%) and any others we are getting to a larger % of the population.

However go round have a word explain that you want a lie in on Sundays and see how they take it.

#Edit Perhaps you could arrange to call him when your ready for him to come round 😉

No, no, no, no...go round and tell them you don't want them there AT ALL on a Sunday...don't start from a weak negotiating point. 😀

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2001 figures had about 16% of the population working shifts officially

That doesn't mean too much, I've worked shifts at a few places.

Last shift finished Saturday lunchtime.
First shift started Monday morning.
Nobody worked Sunday.

Wow. How mediaeval. Are Shabbat, Shabbos, Jumu'ah and FSM day out too? I usually have my weekly lie-in on a Saturday. Does it make me some aberration?

Yes, it does.

Most people don't work shifts. Most people don't work weekends and they expect some peace and relaxation, it's only fair. Those who work shifts over weekends generally accept it's going to be harder to sleep because the rest of the world works then (and they often get paid more for the inconvenience, at least in every job I've had that did).

If they started before 8 I'd be having words, if they started before 9 on a weekend I'd still take the hump.

Those who work shifts over weekends generally accept it's going to be harder to sleep because the rest of the world works then (and they often get paid more for the inconvenience

No the gov don't like to pay us pesky PS workers any extra, because we have repay the current debt that this country owes.

might just be the poor builder has been rained off way too much to keep to the agreed schedule so to get back on track and finish on time he has to do a few sundays . wont be for ever so take him a cuppa round and have a chat now your awake

My next door neighbours builder started at............7:30 on SundayMorning- is it me or is that taking the pee a little bit (my neighbours have moved out whilst the work is done!)

It's taking the piss. Commercial construction work which involves noise is not allowed at all on Sundays. And not after 1pm on Saturdays. Get in touch with your LA, they should get a hefty fine. And quite right too.

I think that a commercial construction firm working on a Sunday, particularly on a Sunday morning at 7.30am in a residential neighbourhood would know that they're almost certainly taking the piss. Many LA's forbid construction work on Sundays and additionally would expect a Section 60 notice or to have put in place a Section 52 agreement.
I'm amazed at the number of people on here that think this is acceptable.

If my bro in law was working a few extra on a sunday as he often is at the moment..

If your bro in law is in construction then he needs to learn how to organise his life in such a way so that he doesn't need to work on sundays. That's what construction companies throughout the UK manage to do. I see no reason why people should have their sundays spoilt/ruined due to his incompetence or greedy/selfish desire for more money.

worth the ban I think 😀

Ernie,
stop being a prat.

OP. I'd be round this week to see if they are working the weekend again and if they are, suggesting that 7.30 on a Sunday is right out of order

Be brave and go talk to them

There's no need to be abusive Yunki. This is the internet, not everyone will agree with everything you say.

If your bro in law is in construction then he needs to learn how to organise his life in such a way so that he doesn't need to work on sundays. That's what construction companies throughout the UK manage to do. I see no reason why people should have their sundays spoilt/ruined due to his incompetence or greedy/selfish desire for more money.

Right there guv, I know it's p*ssing it down sideways but well have them windows out anyway sorry about the garden has it been raining or something......

there's every need footflaps..

I post here daily exercising reserve and listening to every side.. but in this situation it's completely appropriate..

don't you start as well sunshine.. what is this..? pick on yunki morning..?

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Come on then, you big pussy! 😉

have you never laid a floor on a Sunday Darcy..? Wielded a sander in gods name..?

Honestly, and not just for argument's sake, nope...and if I work a Saturday (which is rare), I always ask the neighbours if they'd mind. Mind you, I don't get "rained off" either.

In fairness they only work weekends next door (though the fact I leave for work about 6:30, and am not normally home until 7 means I wouldn't know if they did anyway) which is kind of irrelevant!

davidjones15 - that would annoy the hell out of me, which is why i am actually pretty quiet getting up and going off to work - I like to be considerate. Plus my wife is a teacher and wouldn't be very happy if I woke her up in the Holidays (all 13 weeks!)

I won't even Mow the Grass on a Sunday before about 10:30 as I don't consider it fair even if I am up and want to get started

I am in the "Sundays are no different from any other day " camp. Does it happen every weekend anyway? If it is just one day then you may need to chill out a bit.

To those who believe Sundays are no different to every other day, have you not noticed the massive difference in road traffic on a Sunday morning, or are your blinkers too tightly affixed?

To those who believe Sundays are no different to every other day, have you not noticed the massive difference in road traffic on a Sunday morning, or are your blinkers too tightly affixed?

Still leaves no reason why people can't go about their business.

Still leaves no reason why people can't go about their business.

No reason why they couldn't just be slightly considerate and go about their business an hour later either. It's just common politeness, something many on here would seem to be lacking.

Local authority guidelines don't permit construction work on a Sunday or on Saturdays beyond 1pm. I reported a neighbours builder for using a petrol driven tile cutter 7:30 in the morning so they had a visit from the council.
I only did it because I wanted to nip it in the bud as another neighbour thought it was ok to sand the floor above with a big power sander at 10.30 at night. (that was just part of an ongoing 5 years of work)

If the builder had just been doing a bit of pointing and started at 9 I wouldn't have bothered but couldn't see a reason why I should put up with it.

Still leaves no reason why people can't go about their business.

Even if it's against the law and affects others. What if your business is playing the saxophone? And you want to practice at 6in the morning or 11 at night?

what if it is DIY ..... is that different.....

no power tools on a sunday is a right laugh - no cars then and certainly no motorbikes .....

My neighbours straight 6 jag often wakes me up on a sunday morning - should i tell him hes not allowed to drive it till after ive got up .....

Sundays just another day - if you choose to spend it in bed then live with the consequences - some of us need to do DIY - your choices are either late at night or during the day on sunday. how ever 7.30 is taking the piss and i do wait till after 9 (or i see the neighbours are up and about which they often are)

It's just common politeness, something many on here would seem to be lacking.

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It still amazes me that people haven't realised that not everyone on the internet will agree 100% with everything they say and then throw all their toys out of the pram when someone disagrees with them.

My neighbours straight 6 jag often wakes me up on a sunday morning - should i tell him hes not allowed to drive it till after ive got up .....

In [url= http://www.southoxon.gov.uk/services-and-advice/environment/noise-and-nuisance/noise/building-sites-and-business ]South Oxfordshire[/url], noisy construction activities should also be carried out during sociable hours (i.e. 07:30-18:00 Monday-Friday and 08:00-13:00 Saturdays with no noisy works on Sundays and Bank Holidays). 

MartynS - Member

Ernie,
stop being a prat.

I'm a prat because I don't approve of selfish inconsiderate chancers who are incapable of carrying out their construction work within the legally permitted hours like everyone else in the country ?

Well I'm very happy to be a prat then 8)

BTW I'm such a prat that unbelievably, I also expect them to comply with site safety regs.........yes, I'm that much of a prat !

markie - sounds like another good reason not to live in englandshire

do as to others as you wish to be done to your self ....

my neighbours can make as much noise as they like during day light hours - long as they dont complain about me doing the same.....

what about if im cutting up firewood with a chain saw ? thats redlining for 3mins every 5 😉

cutting the hedge , strimming the verge at the end of the road to benifit everyone living on the road.

Blanket rules like that of south oxfordshire are retarded and for people that cannot apply common sense.

oh and about his jag - i actually like being woken up by the sound of his straight 6 taking off down the road - i used to live on the local equivalent of daytona 500 raceway on a sunday morning a single jag is fine

Blanket rules like that of south oxfordshire are retarded and for people that cannot apply common sense.

Indeed they are. Leave it to retards and people that cannot apply commonsense, and they will carry out construction work at 7.30am on Sunday mornings, as in the OP's case. So legislation is vital for the retards and people who cannot apply commonsense.

BTW you do know that commercial construction work and DIY isn't the same thing don't you ? Of course you do. I just wondered why you commented on hedge trimming, verge strimming, and other garden work which is all unrelated to construction work ? 😕

noise is noise regardless is my point.

noise is noise regardless

Erm no, they don't apply [i]"blanket rules like that"[/i], as you put it. Construction work is banned on Sundays but using a hedge trimmer or strimmer is perfectly legal - construction and gardening are not the same thing. It's this thing called commonsense, which you were speaking of.

Erm no, they don't apply "blanket rules like that", as you put it. Construction work is banned on Sundays but using a hedge trimmer or strimmer is perfectly legal - construction and gardening are not the same thing. It's this thing called commonsense, which you were speaking of.

But could produce the same amount of noise?

But could produce the same amount of noise?

So this is where "commonsense" comes in. It is perfectly feasible to stop construction work on Sundays, specially as construction work is allowed on five and half other days in the week, however it is not quite so feasible to demand no gardening on Sundays.

Not sure where legality comes into it tbh, it's rude and thoughtless to make a racket at that time in the morning, any day of the week. I don't play thrash metal at 7.30am, even if I've really urgently got to get through the Testament back catalogue before monday.

Have a polite word.

http://www.falkirk.gov.uk/services/development/environmental_protection/noise_control/noise_control.aspx

10:00 for Falkirk council (from a noise aspect)

so by your own admission ernie its stupid...

Your not allowed to build a shed but you can cut grass - hell i could even build a car chassis out of sheet steel with a grinder and welder on my drive on a sunday but my dad (a self employed builder) couldnt build a shed out of sheet steel with the self same welder and grinder for my neighbour for money.

anti social hours i agree with - blanket sunday ban , retarded

i could even build a car chassis out of sheet steel with a grinder and welder on my drive on a sunday

Do you do that regularly on a Sunday? On your drive?

You sound like the type of person who uses the word "retarded" a lot.

deadly - i kinda do it half in half out of the garage 😉

the builder doesnt build sheds in my neighbours garden every sunday though.

current company necessitates it im afraid. Im sorry i didnt bring my profanisaurus to nigeria with me.

BTW you do know that commercial construction work and DIY isn't the same thing don't you ?

You are quite right, all my tools have a different setting that makes them quieter if I'm not being paid for the work. 😐

[i]In fairness they only work weekends next door (though the fact I leave for work about 6:30, and am not normally home until 7 means I wouldn't know if they did anyway) which is kind of irrelevant! [/i]

My neighbours complained about me leaving for work at 6:30am, suggesting that it'd be better if I pushed my motorbike (standard exhausts etc) up the street before starting it... Discussions were solved when a new neighbour arrived, who started about 10 mins earlier than me and had the worlds' noisiest Vectra diesel 🙂

all my tools have a different setting that makes them quieter if I'm not being paid for the work.

That's absolutely hilarious. However the law has no problem at all in distinguishing between DIY activity and commercial construction work, consequentially construction sites don't operate on sundays, in the SE of England at least. No one appears to be confused by the "subtle" differences and complying with legal requirements is extraordinarily easy.

Despite the rules it' wouldn't kill your neighbours builder to start Sunday morning with some quiet building jobs, putting the kettle for example or reading the paper 🙂

More seriously a bit of basic consideration wouldn't go amiss, if he does have to work Sunday then not upsetting everyone would seem like a plan. I agree that Sunday isn't special but it is a day most people would like a quiet extra hour in bed.